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Post by Werner Mueck on Jan 25, 2008 22:09:45 GMT -5
I've never seen the Rush card and if I remember right, PH described it to me or gave me a short description based on it. Don't know where the face paint came from. That was one of those nights I was experimenting.
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Post by Coheed on Jan 27, 2008 15:39:11 GMT -5
I would love to have that artwork for a Rush card that is sweet!!
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Post by jdhurst71 on Jan 30, 2008 15:00:55 GMT -5
That is a freakin sweet pic!!! Can I get that card from someone??? Let me know, thanks.
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Post by traviz on Jan 30, 2008 19:02:43 GMT -5
You can get the Rush card(s) from the online store.
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Post by MikeMcKinney on Jan 30, 2008 19:22:28 GMT -5
Rush has held, my TV title and Wargames belt......He might even had a brief run with my Universal. (i'll have to check on that last one)  |
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Post by Tournament Master on Jan 30, 2008 21:18:54 GMT -5
That is a freakin sweet pic!!! Can I get that card from someone??? Let me know, thanks. Pure Hatred has the artwork, so I'd check with him to see if he has a card made. |
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Post by jefft on Feb 1, 2008 9:51:26 GMT -5
That's actually a good point. As a consumer I very much like to be able to see a preview of any of the SE cards before i decide to buy. It becomes even more important because the main reason to buy SE cards is for the art alone because stat changes are minimal if anything is even changed at all. |
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Post by jefft on Feb 1, 2008 9:52:53 GMT -5
See, now because of improved artwork by Werner I become more interested in the character of Rush. Art is important to me to enjoy a character or not.
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Post by gatekeeper on Feb 4, 2008 15:13:36 GMT -5
See, now because of improved artwork by Werner I become more interested in the character of Rush. Art is important to me to enjoy a character or not. I agree but ripping on a 14 yr old kid's drawing doesn't change the fact that Neal did a great job on the art, considering his age. Is it as good as Werner, or Banks? No. It's not supposed to be. But it IS better than 99% of the crappy bootleg drawings I've seen for this game -- who all have 2 (+3) finishers or better. |
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Post by DMK II on Feb 4, 2008 15:19:12 GMT -5
See, now because of improved artwork by Werner I become more interested in the character of Rush. Art is important to me to enjoy a character or not. I agree but ripping on a 14 yr old kid's drawing doesn't change the fact that Neal did a great job on the art, considering his age. Is it as good as Werner, or Banks? No. It's not supposed to be. But it IS better than 99% of the crappy bootleg drawings I've seen for this game -- who all have 2 (+3) finishers or better. I've seen bootlegs out there that arguably have better art then some of the official cards. So this statement is false. But then again, the topic of bootlegs is clearly subjective. So you're welcome to your opinion. |
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Post by Chewey on Feb 4, 2008 15:28:29 GMT -5
Well DMK, maybe all of your bootlegs are up in the top 1%, so what do you have to worry about, eh?
Seriously, just to diffuse the bootlegger vs. anti-bootlegger argument, I think it's pretty distasteful that a bunch of grown men would have such nasty things to say about a 14-year old's creation. Just imagine if you were 14, how pumped would you be that your best friend's father promoted your card through his website? Just lay off the kid.. he did a great job, and nobody needs to go hurting people's feelings or anything like that.
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Post by DMK II on Feb 4, 2008 15:34:43 GMT -5
Well DMK, maybe all of your bootlegs are up in the top 1%, so what do you have to worry about, eh? Seriously, just to diffuse the bootlegger vs. anti-bootlegger argument, I think it's pretty distasteful that a bunch of grown men would have such nasty things to say about a 14-year old's creation. Just imagine if you were 14, how pumped would you be that your best friend's father promoted your card through his website? Just lay off the kid.. he did a great job, and nobody needs to go hurting people's feelings or anything like that. Chewey, your boots are clearly in the top 1%. Quit being so modest. Yeah, you do have a point. I didn't even realize that people were dogging art done by a 14 year old. For god's sake..c'mon people. I think a lot of people have become so blinded by either theirhatred for boots or their longing for superior art, that it doesn't seem to matter who did the bootleg - they're all open for attack and insults. I'll give the kid props. It takes a lot to be creative. Its not as easy as people might think. He deserves credit, not insults. |
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Post by jefft on Feb 4, 2008 18:01:41 GMT -5
I agree but ripping on a 14 yr old kid's drawing doesn't change the fact that Neal did a great job on the art, considering his age. Is it as good as Werner, or Banks? No. It's not supposed to be. But it IS better than 99% of the crappy bootleg drawings I've seen for this game -- who all have 2 (+3) finishers or better. All true comments, but it doesn't seem to disagree with my actual statement since I don't actually recall 'ripping a 14 year old'. Huh? Yeesh, I can only assume yer in a bad mood or something to make that gigantic leap. Clearly, all I did was point out that I liked a paid professional artists version of a drawing than said 14 year old. Liking that art made me like and be interested in the character. Simple as that. |
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Post by dvdmorse on Feb 5, 2008 4:08:21 GMT -5
Well DMK, maybe all of your bootlegs are up in the top 1%, so what do you have to worry about, eh? Seriously, just to diffuse the bootlegger vs. anti-bootlegger argument, I think it's pretty distasteful that a bunch of grown men would have such nasty things to say about a 14-year old's creation. Just imagine if you were 14, how pumped would you be that your best friend's father promoted your card through his website? Just lay off the kid.. he did a great job, and nobody needs to go hurting people's feelings or anything like that. No one was ripping on the kid. When I started this thread, I didn't even know who the artist was. My point was simply that I was surprised when I saw it and that I was expecting professional art for something sold through the website. I am using the card (the second one) in one of my feds now. The art on that one is no worse than most of my own--which was exactly the point. It's nice that Tom did a favor for the kid, but he is running a business, too. All I said was that there should be some way--such as including the art on the website--to let people know what they are getting and that it is not a normal CotG card. It is listed with the rest of the Special Edition cards, so that's what I was expecting. When I saw what it was, I was surprised, so I asked. I was in no way trying to attack Neil. |
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Post by Swarm on Feb 5, 2008 7:46:25 GMT -5
It's 2 dollars. Give me a fucking break.
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Post by jefft on Feb 5, 2008 9:46:20 GMT -5
It's 2 dollars. Give me a [censored] break. Don't understand that logic. Maybe YOU'VE purchased every single COTG product $2 and under (which essentially is what you're suggesting), but I don't see why everyone should. No one insulted a little kid here, fellas. Lets chill and not be so defensive. Give peace a chance....  |
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Post by gatekeeper on Feb 5, 2008 12:57:30 GMT -5
It's 2 dollars. Give me a [censored] break. Don't understand that logic. Maybe YOU'VE purchased every single COTG product $2 and under (which essentially is what you're suggesting), but I don't see why everyone should. No one insulted a little kid here, fellas. Lets chill and not be so defensive. Give peace a chance.... The point is, you are being over-critical of a drawing of a character that isn't an "official" character. And, it only costs $2.00 If you feel you've been cheated out of a "professional" art at the expense of 8 quarters, that's sad (I'm not sure you can buy anyone's actual professional art for $2). |
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Post by Chewey on Feb 5, 2008 13:44:27 GMT -5
Okay, I understand the sentiments on both sides here. Nobody here intends to insult a teenager for his drawing. However, these comments are on a public message board in which he visits sometimes. I've seen him here before. This is also the reason why some people are jumping in to stick up for him, because they know him personally from seeing him at Galacticon every year. So let's just try to be mindful of that.
I also see the point of some of the other people who have posted. Maybe Tom should have marketed the card in the create-a-character section, with Kati, Theatre of Pain, and Varsity. But personally, when I read the description on the website that "RUSH is fast becoming a popular character in the CotG underground movement," I automatically assumed that it was a fan-made character. It seems relatively clear to me, but then again, maybe it wasn't so clear to others.
As for why there are fewer art previews for them, well that's what a lot of them are sold for. The art. I do agree that Tom is running a business, and while I don't think that a $2 is hurting the business, I do think that posting all of the artwork online does. There are people out there who download all of the "free" pictures on the website for their own uses, for which Tom doesn't see a dime. A couple of years ago, there was a fellow who came here asking for someone to scan every official card for him so that he could play the game for free. There has got to be some protection by that too, and posting all of the artwork is not the solution.
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Post by darkrider on Feb 5, 2008 14:01:13 GMT -5
Next time tell them NO and to buy the game like everybody else.thats enough protection by my standards.  |
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Post by jefft on Feb 5, 2008 15:14:51 GMT -5
Don't understand that logic. Maybe YOU'VE purchased every single COTG product $2 and under (which essentially is what you're suggesting), but I don't see why everyone should. No one insulted a little kid here, fellas. Lets chill and not be so defensive. Give peace a chance.... The point is, you are being over-critical of a drawing of a character that isn't an "official" character. And, it only costs $2.00 If you feel you've been cheated out of a "professional" art at the expense of 8 quarters, that's sad (I'm not sure you can buy anyone's actual professional art for $2). Ok, I'll take the high road here and figure perhaps you've a small mistake here and maybe you're confusing me with someone else or something. I know the original poster made references that seem to fit these jabs of yours a bit better, although I don't really see any of his comments as insulting either. Below are the two comments I made in this thread before the little 'digs' started: It becomes even more important because the main reason to buy SE cards is for the art alone because stat changes are minimal if anything is even changed at all. This comment was in response to a suggestion that SE art be posted prior to purchase. I keep reading and I'm totally unable find anything that might be insulting to anyone. All I'm saying is that the only difference between many originals and SE's is the new art so, yeah, making sure we see the thing is probably a good idea. Next! See, now because of improved artwork by Werner I become more interested in the character of Rush. Art is important to me to enjoy a character or not. This comment was quoted when the first little attacks began. Lessee, - I say I like Werner's art better than Neal's - I feel that Werner's art gets me interested in Rush - How a character appears affects how much I like them Ok, what'd I do? - Never once even directly mentioned Neal. - Saying I like one guys art over another certainly can't be insulting, I'd hope. By that logic, if I like Banks over Werner apparently I'm attacking Werner now. - Enjoying Werner's version peaks my interest. Still not seeing anything negative yet. Again, if I get a Werner drawn character later done by Banks. Liking Banks version better and making more interested, does not constitute ripping Werner. Heh, tons of guys have been drawn and redrawn sometimes several times. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only guy who's treatment of redone characters probably changed based on that. Probably everyone has at some point. - Can't really break down that last part any more really. Anyway, apparently a little misunderstanding going on. All that's needed is maybe a, "oops, my bad bro" on your part. An actual apology isn't really needed, but it would certainly be appreciated if given. |
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