OUR BOARD RULES!

[Joe]

wildfire said:

Point taken, but name calling never helps.. I suppose I should practice what I preach.

Really, we should just all get along, this stuff just really gets to me on occasion.

It's cool, Wildfire. I didn't take offense to what you said, and I hope you didn't take any from my statements.

You are right about the name-calling. I guess I probably could have left out the word "clown" but I really believed the individuals I was talking about are deluded and issue-ridden.

As for Splattercat's last post, how do people make you feel like an outsider?

You haven't been on here in weeks, which is fine, but then you show up at a time when there is absolutely no drama between anyone and immediately start ranting and raving about some personal issue stemming from something only you see as bad.

I don't see how others treat you as an outsider, but if you feel that way, perhaps it is because you suffer from the same victim mentality that plagues certain ex-members of this community.

Truthfully, though, I don't think you have that mentality. However, it does seem like you are angered by the fact that others don't share the same disdain for an individual, in this case, Swarm, that you do.

It was actually always kind of disturbing to me that the Deuce was born out of the severe dislike that its founders and mods shared for an individual who I consider to be a good friend.

People have wondered why several of those people are still mods for a game forum they no longer endorse. My guess is that their common link has nothing to do with the game, but a strange obsession and dislike for Swarm, a person that none of them have actually ever met.

[Splattercat]

joe said:

As for Splattercat's last post, how do people make you feel like an outsider?

Here's a good one from a few minutes ago...

swarm said:

We just want you guys to be cool or go away. They left for a reason...to be happy. Now they still aren't happy. So just stay away and he unhappy if you are so unhappy.

it just seems like no matter what happens you guys just want to keep fighting...it's over. Let it go.

Who are these "you guys" he's talking about..? He wants all the Splattercats to be cool or go away...?

If you give me a moment I'll go dig up an entire thread where people were referring to me as though I was on my way out the door...

[bmurderh8s]

I'd like to start off by saying that if Swarm wanted to buy me a Promoter Madness set, I would be all over it despite our differences. C'mon..IT'S FREE.

You begin to tread dangerous water when you assume to know another persons intentions. Even if their past actions may indicate there is an alterior motive, I don't think it's fair to assume just because a guy is trying to do something nice for you he's trying to make you look bad. That could be the case, but since you can't prove such a statement, why go there?

I also feel that a board that has mods on it that do not support Tom's game should not be endorsed by Tom. However, from what I gathered from the situation they will not be paying for any future editions, but they will still play the game. So in a sense they still are supporting the game, just not monitarily. Take that for what you will.

It is true that the SOT chat was used for bashing others and spreading petty gossip. I can't act all high and mighty about it, because I was doing it to. The one thing I can sayis I never took cheap shots at anybody in the chatroom because they didn't agree with something I said. I can't say that for others, but I'll leave it at that.

Joe is right with his obvservations about the two types of threads that get deleted almost immidietaly. He's not pulling any BS out, I've watched it happen before. I understand they do it to keep their little community clean and free from all the crap that they feel goes on on this board on a daily basis. However, I have noticed that this board has been just as friendly, if not more friendly in recent months. Sure, many of us get into heated discussions every now and then, but it never seems to go any farther than that.

This all stems from a petty grudge over a table top card and dice game. Peoples inability to let it go is the real indictment. Sometimes it's good to get this stuff out in the air instead of bottling it up.You let something like this fester for too long and before you know it it may explode, and then we reallyc ould have a big problem on our hands. Talking about it helps..especially when you keep it as civil as possible.

I have noticed a severe hatred for Swarm on the deuce and an equal dislike for those who come off as Swarm apologists. Somewhere along the way the difference between Swarm and people who have no problem with him is blurred. Just ask Offspring.

Anyway, to finish everything up I'd like to say I enjoy the hell out of this board, may it live long and prosper.

I used a Star Trek reference at the end even though I don't like Star Trek..I'm a dork.

[Joe]

splattercat said:

joe said:

As for Splattercat's last post, how do people make you feel like an outsider?

Here's a good one from a few minutes ago...

swarm said:

We just want you guys to be cool or go away. They left for a reason...to be happy. Now they still aren't happy. So just stay away and he unhappy if you are so unhappy.

it just seems like no matter what happens you guys just want to keep fighting...it's over. Let it go.

Who are these "you guys" he's talking about..? He wants all the Splattercats to be cool or go away...?

If you give me a moment I'll go dig up an entire thread where people were referring to me as though I was on my way out the door...

I believe that was after you went off about how he had used you to make himself look good.

I think the "you guys" refers to the people who, while swearing to no longer have any dealings with Swarm, somehow cannot keep his name out of their respective mouths. Most of those guys are members of the Deuce and no longer post here.

[swarm]

I don't know what to tell cat other than he's wrong. I have never cared about what anyone thinks of me so I don't get why he think I would start now.

I like splattercat...I think maybe he tries to take on the world himself for whatver reason but overall he seems like a good soul. I really am sorry he feel the way he does but I'm not going to waste anymore time on him if this is how he is going to act.

I wish him the best and if he ever needed anything from me I hope he would feel free to ask.

swarm

[Splattercat]

"You guys" refers to those who left...That's been the thing, I'm referred to as the one who has to carry the fight, defend TNA, whatever else...I was on the side of those that left, so it's like it's only a matter of time before I delete my account too...Further evidenced by you, Payback AND Swarm all saying at seperate times, that you're "Glad I stuck around"...I still get that...People are glad I haven't left...Yeah, on one hand it's flattering, but the other hand, people are still waiting for my name to go lower case and turn white...

I really don't want to bring up Dukedave, because he's really cool and I don't want him to get caught in anything, but he even asked if I "defected"...

Sorry Duke...Had to be done...no offense..........

[Splattercat]

Anyway, since Swarm posted his own PM, I'll do the same...Well, I'll Paraphrase...

I'm done with this situation...It sucks, and I don't like how everything played out...When work cools down for me, I'll come back and see how things are...Right now, the last two days on here have taken up far too much of my time...Yesterday I thought I was helping someone, today i feel like a fool...

As far as my account goes...I'll say this once...I'm not deleting it...I keep in contact with people on here through PMs, and however little I take part in the discussions, I'm not going to delete my account because that's my way of staying in touch...Take that for what it's worth...

So....I'll leave it at that...

[cakejedi]

I usually stay out of these petty little arguments, but I have to jump in here.

As I mentioned previously, people who don't know me other than silly screen name have been very supportive during a very scary time with my mom's illness.

And Swarm, the supposed "bad boy", has gone above and beyond to help me with a personal matter. Again, he doesn't really know me other than a brief meeting at Galacticon and some correspondence for Promoter Madness. So as far as I am concerned, these boards are made up of QUALITY people.

I guess I just don't understand arguing on a message board. If you disagree with someone, then simply ignore their posts. For example, I used to enjoy TNA more than WWE (prior to Russo messing it up). It didn't bother me that some people were bashing TNA. I simply ignored those posts. Seems easy to me.

[dukedave]

[quote author=splattercat board=general thread=1171471302 post=1171577055I really don't want to bring up Dukedave, because he's really cool and I don't want him to get caught in anything, but he even asked if I "defected"...

Sorry Duke...Had to be done...no offense..........[/quote]

No offense taken. I just hadn't seen you post in awhile and "defected" was the only terminology I could think of. It just happened to be used shortly before this whole thing started.

Not to chime in but I will anyway (did that actually make any sense). Yes, Swarm is a tool sometimes. But is it impossible to think that he would actually want to be nice sometime without an ulterior motive. He has friends so he must be nice to them once in awhile. While he has had it out with those that have "defected" you and he have had your confrontations but have never gone to the levels things went between him and Trav, tafkaga, your brother, etc.

Who knows, maybe he does have an ulterior motive. But he may also respect you as someone who will not paint him as the devil just because he disagrees with almost everything you say.

Neither Swarm nor those other guys are completely blameless in what happened in the past, however, those guys put all the blame on Swarm and seem to accept none of the responsibility for their own actions.

[Tournament Master]

It sucks that there has to be so much anomosity between two groups of people who came together at a point over the love of the same interest. But I guess that is commonplace in all of society, that people don't always get along...for reasons that aren't always justified.

I see no reason to delete my Duece account, although I have noticed that since the closing of the chatroom, activity has died down over there alot, and has picked up here. My closest COTG friends all post here, so I have always posted and read the most here, and will continue to do so.

Its sad to hear that some people may not continue to buy FG products over disagreements that have been had, because there are some really cool characters created by people in Promoter Madness, and some great writing by Tom/Mark/Kris in recent game editions, and its a shame some people will voluntarily miss out on that in order to prove a point. If that is indeed the case, I hope that cooler heads will prevail eventually.

Overall, I have to say that I have really enjoyed the community that Chris helped establish. It has further expanded on the great relationships that I have made over the years at Galacticon and through emails with various promoters. I truely believe that my life is better for it (my work performance is another story :. In closing I will reiterate the original point of this thread: Our Board Rules!

[Aquinas]

I'm not about to understand or get involved in the in-fighting.....but I do remember a time, on a different board in recent history, I had SERIOUS issues with somebody. Annoyed the absolute hell out of me....was phony.....was nasty....started trouble.....and I wanted nothing more than to see that person get run off the board for the betterment of everybody.

But eventually it dawned on me -- what did it matter? That, too, was an entertainment-based website. And as annoying, two-faced, and nasty that person was -- they didn't really matter one bit in my life. They just interfered with my enjoyment of a website.

There isn't much of anything that would drive me away from Filsinger Games, or think any less of Tom. It strikes me there are two sides to this story, like any feud. All I know is that this is a really fun place, and I dig it.

I've progressively found more and more to disagree with Swarm about, and I think he's all wet on certain topics....but I really don't have a problem with him or anybody here. I think it's a good cast of characters, which is what prompted me to start posting here.

The GWF rocks and I think it's sad that anybody who loved it would ditch it because of an online personality.

[WTIC]

Excellent post, Tournament Master! Thank you for that!

[Pride]

awww COME ON PPL NOT THIS AGAIN!!! can we just lock this board!!!if we cant just get along for one year! thats my challenge to everyone!!!lets get along for one year,and if we cant do that then we all need to take some time off both boards and see what we are doing as an wrestling fans of COTG.are we all helping each other or hurting each other for our own personal glory?i for one has put away my dislike for other ppl,we all have our opions.so lets just squash the whole darn thing and lets talk about something good like my bootleg can beat your bootleg,or is endgame as good as Commando sam say he is?lets get back to where i heard the boards used to be.'Cause this crap is getting old veru old.

im thinking of ditching all the online stuff cause im tired of this in-fighting!but i will never ditch the COTG game.we act like the nWo when they where breaking up into the wolf pack.GET AN LEGAL MADE BOOTLEGS BY THE RULES POST ALL THE BOOTLEGS ON BOTH FORUMS AND HAVE AN SURVIER SERIES!!!!EVERYONE DO AN BOOTLEG OF YOUR SELF WITH YOUR BOARD NAME ON THEM AND SETTEL IT GWF STYLE!

[Pride]

Thats my 2 cents and im sticking to it.

[dukedave]

levertis said:

Thats my 2 cents and im sticking to it.

If you look at it closely, this is all Pride's fault. He invited everyone for 'Ego's and then everything went downhill from there. ;D

[Pride]

If you look at it closely, this is all Pride's fault. He invited everyone for 'Ego's and then everything went downhill from there. ;D[/quote]
:oawww snap....your right....dang-it[glow=red,2,300][/glow]ITS ALL MY FAULT!

[Pride]

you know what? yall still can come over and have grits bacon eggs toast coffee oj (the juice not the killer)red eye gravy ham and all that good old alabama eaten!



YEEEEIIIIIIIIII HAAAAAWWWWWWWW

[dukedave]

levertis said:

you know what? yall still can come over and have grits bacon eggs toast coffee oj (the juice not the killer)red eye gravy ham and all that good old alabama eaten!



YEEEEIIIIIIIIII HAAAAAWWWWWWWW

Since when are you from Alabama. Could have sworn you used to be from Chi-town until you changed to parts unknown. Actually think you even said you lived near Malcolm X college or the Harold Washington library for some reason I don't know why I'd confuse these two or why I'd remember this. Oh well, it was under a different alias. Maybe you've gone into the COTG witness protection program

[Eliath]

So, how about this Board? Isn't it just GREAT?! ;D

[stephenvegas]

swarm said:

Guys and Gals,

I really, really hope Chris doesn't delete this post as I am not trying so slam anyone with it, but this is an expert from a really good friend of mine who posts on the deuce and of all the things that have been said about the rift I think this statement is about as good as is gets...to respect my friends privacy I will not disclose his name but this is what he said...

I remember them scrambling to get Tom to put a link to their page on the official website and being very happy when that happened. Tom's positive response to them was even pasted into a thread somewhere. So he was willing to give them recognition and support their effort. All well and good.

Now you've got at least three of the mod staff (Holland, Tommy, and Trav) who are saying they're not going to support Filsinger Games anymore because of Tom's supposed favoritism of people they don't like. It's a free country and they can think what they want, that's not what I have a problem with.

But if they were real stand-up guys, they'd write to Tom and request that he take down the link to their site, and give their reasons for it. If they're not going to support his product financially anymore, why should he continue to provide an endorsement? If I were him, I'd drop them. Newbies should be directed to a board where they're actually going to get an admin staff who supports the product that the members are talking so much about. Makes me wonder what they're still doing there.

to add to that, to give an idea of what a bad guy I am, through Splattercat (a great guy and a great member of this board) I offered to make peace with a few of the guys by offering to buy them each a copy of PROMOTER MADNESS signed by me (ok I made that last part up but it's funny...) and they out-right refused...

so I don't really have a way to wrap this post up other than to say I love this game, I love this board, and I love Tom like a father figure and nothing anyone could ever say could ever make me turn my back on it, this, or him...if others can then that is their decision and I wish them the best. I really do.

Peace.

Swarm

Although I deleted my Deuce account shortly before this thread began, I am not the one who sent this message to Swarm. In fact, the only people I have talked to since leaving the Deuce on Tuesday are people still from the Deuce who sent me PMs here or Emails.

But I am interested that his post shows that there are other people from the Deuce who are frustrated by what is going on over there. It is just difficult for me to contribute to a COTG community where members of the management proclaim their disdain for COTG and LOW or sell away all their COTG stuff on Ebay.