Powerslam Top 50 wrestlers of 2007

[Bazzy]

I wasn't sure where to put this . Because of the number 1 winner , I placed it here .

From this month's English wrestling magazine "Powerslam" . The Top 50 wrestlers of the year
50th) Doug Williams
46th) Triple H
45th) John Morrison
43th) Rhyno
41th) Abyss
39th) Booker T
38th) Homicide
37th) Finlay
35th) Roderick Strong
34th) C.M Punk
30th) Matt Hardy
29th) John Cena
28th) Chris Sabin
27th) Umaga
26th) Austin Aries
25th) Batista
24th) Jay Lethal
23rd) Jeff Hardy
21st) Edge
20th) Kensuke Sasaki
19th) Cima
18th) Katsuhiko Nakajima
17th) Ricky Marvin
16th) A.J Styles
15th) Mark Briscoe
14th) Jay Briscoe
13th) The Undertaker
12th) Christian Cage
11th) Takeshi Morishima
10th) Hiroshi Tanahashi
9th) Naomichi Marufuji
8th) Shawn Michaels
7th) Bryan Danielson
6th) Samoa Joe
5th) Randy Orton
4th) Yuji Nagata
3rd) Kenta
2nd) Nigel McGuiness
1st) Kurt Angle

[dukedave]

So, is the staff of "Powerslam" retarded, blind, or both?

[daytondave]

They're English

So tell us, Havoc- who are YOUR top 10 for 2007?

[dukedave]

daytondave said:

They're English

So tell us, Havoc- who are YOUR top 10 for 2007?

I'd probably start off with Number 29 on their list for one thing.

I'm not familiar with a lot of the Japanese wrestlers listed but seriously - The following guys are rated above HHH - Rhyno, Abyss, Roderick Strong, Austin Aries, and Jay Lethal. Come on.

I understand that ROH have gone over there so I understand the ROH bias but unsure of the reasons for the TNA ass-sniffage. Really, is there any reason for TNA to have 2 guys in the top ten, including the top guy, and 10 total guys in the top 50.

PS- How come a list of the top 50 wrestlers of the year only has 39 names on it?

[LWPD]

bazzy said:

I wasn't sure where to put this . Because of the number 1 winner , I placed it here .

From this month's English wrestling magazine "Powerslam" . The Top 50 wrestlers of the year
50th) Doug Williams
46th) Triple H
45th) John Morrison
43th) Rhyno
41th) Abyss
39th) Booker T
38th) Homicide
37th) Finlay
35th) Roderick Strong
34th) C.M Punk
30th) Matt Hardy
29th) John Cena
28th) Chris Sabin
27th) Umaga
26th) Austin Aries
25th) Batista
24th) Jay Lethal
23rd) Jeff Hardy
21st) Edge
20th) Kensuke Sasaki
19th) Cima
18th) Katsuhiko Nakajima
17th) Ricky Marvin
16th) A.J Styles
15th) Mark Briscoe
14th) Jay Briscoe
13th) The Undertaker
12th) Christian Cage
11th) Takeshi Morishima
10th) Hiroshi Tanahashi
9th) Naomichi Marufuji
8th) Shawn Michaels
7th) Bryan Danielson
6th) Samoa Joe
5th) Randy Orton
4th) Yuji Nagata
3rd) Kenta
2nd) Nigel McGuiness
1st) Kurt Angle

Out of curiosity...was there any criteria stated as to how these rankings were derived? In the US payola tends to be an influence in similar listings such as the PWI 500 where promoters/wrestlers have been known to pay for the visibility that comes with a ranking.

[Bazzy]

Havoc - There is 50 wrestlers listed in the magazine . I didn't do them all , because like yourself most people have never heard of them guys .

Ass licking TNA . Powerslam is independent to all federations . Also here as I know no one on their staff is blind and retarded . I will ask them and see what they say though , to your views ?

The wrestlers are just on quality of matches fought in a year . What else are they gonna be based apon ? . Disability ? maybe in Havoc's views .

[LWPD]

bazzy said:

The wrestlers are just on quality of matches fought in a year . What else are they gonna be based apon ? . Disability ? maybe in Havoc's views .

It's possible the ratings could have been 'based apon' some sort of intelligent system that attempts to measure factors such as drawing power, or card positioning or Q rating. In other words elements that are tangible and exist outside of the whim of just the wrestlers/matches the editors liked on a particular day sans considering real world facts which give greater context to the selection process.

Kurt Angle was signed to a big money contract in TNA and has been granted a considerable amount of creative time on Spike TV. That said....while being the focus of countless time on the show he hasn't generated any noticeable increase in ratings beyond the average that was at norm before Panda started paying him. With the exception of his debut match his programs have not drawn considerably (or even profitably) on PPV.

In granting Kurt Angle the number 1 ranking...the editors of this Powerslam Magazine don't seem to be showing much depth in terms of their evaluation process and aren't doing very much to produce an educated and informed readership.

[JMello]

Yeah, it doesn't seem to be a very fair list and has no real system to follow. I'd question this magazine, seriously, and I even like Ring of Honor!

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bazzy said:

Powerslam is independent to all federations .

Can I have some of what you are smoking? Edge held the world heavyweight title twice and is 21st? I have no problem with a English bias. It's an English magazine. If McGuinness had been #1 I wouldn't have even said anything.

Also here as I know no one on their staff is blind and retarded . I will ask them and see what they say though , to your views ?

Oh, I forgot the third option - corrupt. LWPD covered that option pretty well. I, myself, lean toward the belief they are retarded.

The wrestlers are just on quality of matches fought in a year . What else are they gonna be based apon ? . Disability ? maybe in Havoc's views .

Huh?? Then once again, why the friggin he11 is Kurt Angle #1. This isn't 2001. Going back to my retarded thoughts. If the list is based on quality of matches, how is the Undertaker 13th? I have no problem with the list showing a bias to ROH, English, or Japanese wrestlers. However, If there are this many great guys in TNA, how come they suck so bad? If you think that someone at "Powerslam" doesn't have a reason to be biased ($$$) toward TNA then you are delusional. But then again, you might be on the staff of Powerslam and have a big chubby for Kurt Angle yourself.

PS - Another reason this list sucks is the inclusion of the Briscoes (OK, so I don't really mean that but can't pass up opportunities to rile up Knapik).

[Joe]

The strangest part of these rankings come when you compare apples to apples, and evalutate the position of WWE wrestlers against one another.

John Cena being ranked 29th, while Randy Orton, Shawn Michaels and Umaga are listed in slots 5, 8, and 29 is beyond comprehension.

Follow me:

Umaga's best match: John Cena in the Last Man Standing match.

Shawn Michaels best match of 2007: John Cena on Raw, although Michaels had a slew of good matches this year, as always.

Randy Orton's best match: John Cena at Summerslam.

If the rankings were based on match-quality, how are all three rated higher than Cena? There is no reason to begin to debate why Jay Lethal and Chris Sabin are higher than Cena until someone can logically explain why Cena is not even considered top five in his own fed by these clowns.

[dukedave]

joe said:

The strangest part of these rankings come when you compare apples to apples, and evalutate the position of WWE wrestlers against one another.

John Cena being ranked 29th, while Randy Orton, Shawn Michaels and Umaga are listed in slots 5, 8, and 29 is beyond comprehension.

Follow me:

Umaga's best match: John Cena in the Last Man Standing match.

Shawn Michaels best match of 2007: John Cena on Raw, although Michaels had a slew of good matches this year, as always.

Randy Orton's best match: John Cena at Summerslam.

If the rankings were based on match-quality, how are all three rated higher than Cena? There is no reason to begin to debate why Jay Lethal and Chris Sabin are higher than Cena until someone can logically explain why Cena is not even considered top five in his own fed by these clowns.

All good points. I was just too lazy to bother to do any research, kind of like the editors of "Powerslam."

[Swarm]

If *eating jelly through a straw* was a wrestler in ROH, he would be number one.

[Knapik]

The fact that the #1 wrestler in the world - John Cena - is 29th on this list makes the whole thing null and void.

And honestly... Joe above Danielson?

[Knapik]

Ricky Marvin is 17th haha.... oh man. I like the dude, but cmon!

Jon's top 10

1. John Cena
2. Bryan Danielson
3. Edge
4. The Briscoes
5. Christian Cage
6. CIMA
7. Nigel McGuinness
8. Claudio Castagnoli
9. Naomichi Marufuji
10. Takeshi Morishima

I know a lot of people would disagree, but that's whats fun about stuff like this yeah?

[Bazzy]

Simple as this - I wish I NEVER put the list up . I wouldn't be bothering with the end of year awards results .

I was thinking about putting my wrestling clothesline's Top 50 indie female wrestlers up . That Cheerleader Melissa told me about . But I suppose you lot would just slaughter me for that as well .

[Knapik]

bazzy said:

Simple as this - I wish I NEVER put the list up . I wouldn't be bothering with the end of year awards results .

I was thinking about putting my wrestling clothesline's Top 50 indie female wrestlers up . That Cheerleader Melissa told me about . But I suppose you lot would just slaughter me for that as well .

Damn, 50? Geez, I wonder how bad #50 is.

[JamieOD]

It's an odd list. Power Slam is very anti-WWE, or at least to the current WWE product. Not an issue goes by without someone mentioning that John Cena should turn heel so he can get back in the fans' good graces. They also criticize TNA a lot so I'm real confused about some of the positions, even for the indies and internationals. KENTA's good but he should not be that high this year. If anything Marufuji should at least swap ranks with him.

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bazzy said:

Simple as this - I wish I NEVER put the list up . I wouldn't be bothering with the end of year awards results .

I was thinking about putting my wrestling clothesline's Top 50 indie female wrestlers up . That Cheerleader Melissa told me about . But I suppose you lot would just slaughter me for that as well .

Slaughter you?? Are you a writer or editor at Powerslam? If so, where can I pick up a copy because that would be a fantastic read.

If you are not on the Powerslam staff then the "slaughtering" is not directed at you, up until the time you start defending the magazine for ranking eight guys in the top 50, including #1, from a federation that is struggling to stay afloat.

If this list were "Bazzy's top fifty wrestler's of the year" it would've been your opinion. However, Powerslam is supposedly independent to all federations (your words), and should put out a list that is either not retarded or not biased.

[Bazzy]

I told you I have nothing to do with Powerslam magazine . I work for a supermarket packing the shelves at night . I only put the list up to see what people would think . I have done it before in the past listed lists . I can't comment on the list because I haven't seen most of the names wrestle . Like in ROH and Japan . So what really are you upset about that the WWE wasn't all the Top 50 ? .

[smathis]

bazzy said:

So what really are you upset about that the WWE wasn't all the Top 50 ? .

Pretty much.

I'm sorry that this thread turned into an incendiary turd bomb. I understand your reaction. It's hard not to get defensive when all you're hearing is "retard" and "corruption" in response to a thread you've created.

I appreciate you putting up the list. Like most of the other responders, I was surprised that Angle got the #1 ranking. Real surprised.

But the list introduced me to a few new names that I might try to check out. I wish you would've posted the full list. It's stuff like this that introduces me to some of the great things happening on the indie scene and oftentimes to some of the future stars of the larger promotions.

I'm hoping this post helps lighten the badgering you've received thus far. Please consider keeping us informed on stuff like this in the future.