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Post by stephenvegas on Jan 5, 2008 22:54:18 GMT -5
Also note that about five or six links down is another thread from another board about how retarded this list is. Havoc, Are you talking about the discussion board over in the UK listed on that page where they are discussing Powerslam's decision to stop covering Smackdown because Powerslam doesn't consider Smackdown "newsworthy?"  |
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Post by dukedave on Jan 5, 2008 23:05:12 GMT -5
Also note that about five or six links down is another thread from another board about how retarded this list is. Havoc, Are you talking about the discussion board over in the UK listed on that page where they are discussing Powerslam's decision to stop covering Smackdown because Powerslam doesn't consider Smackdown "newsworthy?" No. The death valley driver board had 7 pages. |
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Post by stephenvegas on Jan 5, 2008 23:17:08 GMT -5
Havoc, Are you talking about the discussion board over in the UK listed on that page where they are discussing Powerslam's decision to stop covering Smackdown because Powerslam doesn't consider Smackdown "newsworthy?" No. The death valley driver board had 7 pages. OK, so that means there are at least 2 additional discussion boards critical of Powerslam. On the board I was reading, they took this quote out of an edition of Powerslam (I think the issue that was out last June based on the date for that thread) about Powerslam's plans to stop covering Smackdown: In quick news from Raw (please note: beginning this month, I will report only on newsworthy WWE television programmes, which rules out Smackdown! out at the moment)... www.talkwrestlingonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=38247 |
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Post by ThePunisher on Jan 6, 2008 18:26:13 GMT -5
Well not being able to say that I've seen everyone on that list, it is terribly out of order for those who I have so I'll assume that overall it is just wrong.
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Post by fordis on Jan 7, 2008 8:25:55 GMT -5
Just for the record.
I never said Khali carried Cena to anything. I didn't even mention his match with Cena in my first post.
So - Khali didn't carry Cena. Happy?
The STFU being rubbish has nothing to do with a man's size. And if his size is what makes it look about as painful as a nice cuddle, he shouldn't be doing it.
Fact is, the angle that the leg's put at I could do to myself, and what does crossing his arms in front of a man's face do? It's hardly a crossface is it? Yes I think it is one of the most unreaslistic wrestling moves in history. How can I get excited and get that wrestling-rush in my body when I'm watching a move that looks as fake as most of the Diva's breasts?
Secondly, the Rock's sharpshooter was the worst in history. My argument? Just look at the majority of Bret Hart's sharpshooters - now THOSE legs and back were NOT meant to bend like that. Ouch!
Thank you.
Please read my post carefully before replying and calling me a retard. How dumb would I have to be to even think Khali has carried any more than his own hair?
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Post by dukedave on Jan 7, 2008 8:51:10 GMT -5
How dumb would I have to be to even think Khali has carried any more than his own hair?  Good question coming from someone who created one of the most retarded top 50 lists ever created. It almost makes me want to subscribe just for a good laugh. |
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Post by Mark 138 on Jan 7, 2008 8:52:58 GMT -5
I never said that Randy Orton, Umaga or Khali carried Cena to the best matches of their careers - just that they carried him in their matches.[/u] I don't think Khali's match with Cena was good at all. I challenge any blind Cena fan on this forum to defend the STFU.[/quote] |
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Post by Joe on Jan 7, 2008 15:18:13 GMT -5
Just for the record. I never said Khali carried Cena to anything. I didn't even mention his match with Cena in my first post. So - Khali didn't carry Cena. Happy? The STFU being rubbish has nothing to do with a man's size. And if his size is what makes it look about as painful as a nice cuddle, he shouldn't be doing it. Fact is, the angle that the leg's put at I could do to myself, and what does crossing his arms in front of a man's face do? It's hardly a crossface is it? Yes I think it is one of the most unreaslistic wrestling moves in history. How can I get excited and get that wrestling-rush in my body when I'm watching a move that looks as fake as most of the Diva's breasts? Secondly, the Rock's sharpshooter was the worst in history. My argument? Just look at the majority of Bret Hart's sharpshooters - now THOSE legs and back were NOT meant to bend like that. Ouch! Thank you. Please read my post carefully before replying and calling me a retard. How dumb would I have to be to even think Khali has carried any more than his own hair? As has already been shown, you did say Khali, in addition to Orton and Umaga carried Cena. Statements like that are ridiculous, and damage your credibility. As for Rock's sharpshooter, you have to admit that, at least part of the reason, it looked like it did was height differential between him and the majority of the people he to whom he applied the hold. Bret Hart was not significantly taller than anyone he wrestled, so it made the position of the opponents' legs look different, and perhaps more painful than in Rock's version. |
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Post by Knapik on Jan 7, 2008 15:20:59 GMT -5
I wouldn't want John Cena to try and pull my face off.
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Post by Hyde on Jan 7, 2008 16:56:52 GMT -5
Fact is, the angle that the leg's put at I could do to myself, and what does crossing his arms in front of a man's face do? It's hardly a crossface is it? Have you ever had a man with forearms the size of cinder blocks wrap them around your face and squeeze as hard as he can? I have. It doesn't feel good. Awkward angles and twisting can certainly do damage to ligaments and joints, but when a wrestler with Cena's strength applies an ass load of pressure to your head, it can do a hell of alot of damage, too. Hence, the bajillion Iron Claw finishers and Khali's head vice. This is how mixed martial artists can suffer damaged or broken jaws when they block a choke attempt with their face. Same principle. Chono had to wrench and twist to do damage because he isn't known for ridiculous power. Cena on the other hand, can just resort to force. It actually sticks to his gimmick better than if he did apply the move in a scientific manner. The bottom line is: Bret Hart (smaller guy) uses The Sharpshooter. Khali (giant) uses a head vice. If they decided to switch off submission finishers, THEN we would have the most unrealistic wrestling moves in existence(cough canadian destroyer cough) |
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Post by Hyde on Jan 7, 2008 16:59:25 GMT -5
In addition: Umaga, HBK, Lashley, Khali, and Orton have all had their best matches or incredible matches with Cena in 2007.
Notice the common denominator is Cena. There is something about HIM that makes these guys great.
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Post by dukedave on Jan 7, 2008 17:07:28 GMT -5
Have you ever had a man with forearms the size of cinder blocks wrap them around your face and squeeze as hard as he can? I have. Note to self - Do not attend the same parties as Hyde.  |
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Post by Joe on Jan 7, 2008 17:07:51 GMT -5
In addition: Umaga, HBK, Lashley, Khali, and Orton have all had their best matches or incredible matches with Cena in 2007. Notice the common denominator is Cena. There is something about HIM that makes these guys great. This is why it is so amazing that there are still some people who refuse to give Cena the amount of credit he is due. Over the course of 2006 and 2007 elevated his game to that of the great ones. If Cena had a physique like Harley Race and was missing several teeth, maybe "journalists" like Fordis would give him the praise he deserves. |
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Post by JED-SE on Jan 7, 2008 17:16:46 GMT -5
The STFU being rubbish has nothing to do with a man's size. And if his size is what makes it look about as painful as a nice cuddle, he shouldn't be doing it. Fact is, the angle that the leg's put at I could do to myself, and what does crossing his arms in front of a man's face do? It's hardly a crossface is it? Yes I think it is one of the most unreaslistic wrestling moves in history. How can I get excited and get that wrestling-rush in my body when I'm watching a move that looks as fake as most of the Diva's breasts? Secondly, the Rock's sharpshooter was the worst in history. My argument? Just look at the majority of Bret Hart's sharpshooters - now THOSE legs and back were NOT meant to bend like that. Ouch! Thank you. If you want to retract your coment about Kahli carrying Cena, fine, everyone makes mistakes. As far as the STFU, again, I don't think anyone said it was the greatest submission move of all time, I think that people were just saying that the move is not as bad and pittiful as you are making it out to be. Bending someone's leg the wrong way putting pressure on the quad, whether, its a half crab, of an stf, is going to be painful no matter what. This is coming from someone who use to wrestle (high-school and college, not in the form of entertainment) when applying a move called a cross-face cradle, my arm went across my opponent's face and under his nose, similar to the way Cena applies it. I've also had this move done to me, and let me tell you, if applied properly, IT HURTS. Keep in mind, in the stfu, the front neck muscles are being stretched the wrong way too. Also, if you're trying to tell us that Bret Hart applies the sharp shooter better than the Rock, well, I don't think you'll get an argument from a lot of people on this board. However, that's not to say that the way The Rock applies it is horrible either. Anyway you cut it, if the sharpshooter were applied in real life, whether it was done by the rock, or Bret Hart, it would hurt. |
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Post by Joe on Jan 7, 2008 17:19:25 GMT -5
I would like to clarify that I don't think Rock's version of the sharpshooter was better than the one performed by Hart.
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Post by Hyde on Jan 7, 2008 18:43:59 GMT -5
Have you ever had a man with forearms the size of cinder blocks wrap them around your face and squeeze as hard as he can? I have. Note to self - Do not attend the same parties as Hyde. Hahaha. I'd almost maybe be a tiny bit put off by that if you weren't so damn funny.  Seriously, though. I'm an EXTREMELY small scale independent wrestler as I have yet to wrestle outside of the shows that my school puts on. And even in moves that should not be so damaging like a normal headlock, when the more powerful guys in the ring lock that thing in even semi-tightly, it doesn't feel so great. I can't even imagine the effects it could have if someone with Cena's power were to "actually" apply that hold, supposing Cena was really using the moves in a real competition. |
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Post by fordis on Jan 8, 2008 12:15:20 GMT -5
Just for the record. I never said Khali carried Cena to anything. I didn't even mention his match with Cena in my first post. So - Khali didn't carry Cena. Happy? The STFU being rubbish has nothing to do with a man's size. And if his size is what makes it look about as painful as a nice cuddle, he shouldn't be doing it. Fact is, the angle that the leg's put at I could do to myself, and what does crossing his arms in front of a man's face do? It's hardly a crossface is it? Yes I think it is one of the most unreaslistic wrestling moves in history. How can I get excited and get that wrestling-rush in my body when I'm watching a move that looks as fake as most of the Diva's breasts? Secondly, the Rock's sharpshooter was the worst in history. My argument? Just look at the majority of Bret Hart's sharpshooters - now THOSE legs and back were NOT meant to bend like that. Ouch! Thank you. Please read my post carefully before replying and calling me a retard. How dumb would I have to be to even think Khali has carried any more than his own hair? As has already been shown, you did say Khali, in addition to Orton and Umaga carried Cena. Statements like that are ridiculous, and damage your credibility. As for Rock's sharpshooter, you have to admit that, at least part of the reason, it looked like it did was height differential between him and the majority of the people he to whom he applied the hold. Bret Hart was not significantly taller than anyone he wrestled, so it made the position of the opponents' legs look different, and perhaps more painful than in Rock's version. As I finished my previous post with - KHALI DIDN'T CARRY CENA. OK? Is that clear now? Is it? AS for defending the Rock's sharpshooter - yes he was tall so it was difficult to apply - SO WHY DO IT??? And it's not that Bret's looked more painful because the angle LOOKED different. The angle WAS different. Look at how those legs bend back. Ow. People's legs during the Rock's sharpshooter weren't bent back at all. And it's not the height. Look at Benoit's sharpshooter - not a patch on Bret's. Oh and Cena doesn't squeeze your face he just crosses his arms in front of them. Bye for now |
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Post by Aquinas on Jan 8, 2008 12:30:15 GMT -5
As has already been shown, you did say Khali, in addition to Orton and Umaga carried Cena. Statements like that are ridiculous, and damage your credibility. As for Rock's sharpshooter, you have to admit that, at least part of the reason, it looked like it did was height differential between him and the majority of the people he to whom he applied the hold. Bret Hart was not significantly taller than anyone he wrestled, so it made the position of the opponents' legs look different, and perhaps more painful than in Rock's version. As I finished my previous post with - KHALI DIDN'T CARRY CENA. OK? Is that clear now? Is it? AS for defending the Rock's sharpshooter - yes he was tall so it was difficult to apply - SO WHY DO IT??? And it's not that Bret's looked more painful because the angle LOOKED different. The angle WAS different. Look at how those legs bend back. Ow. People's legs during the Rock's sharpshooter weren't bent back at all. And it's not the height. Look at Benoit's sharpshooter - not a patch on Bret's. Oh and Cena doesn't squeeze your face he just crosses his arms in front of them. Bye for now Whoah, settle down there chief. |
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Post by Knapik on Jan 8, 2008 12:50:16 GMT -5
Wow, this guy is allowed to write for a magazine? Is this like an underground zine or what? Dude thinks The Great Khali carried Cena to a good match for christ sake!
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Post by smathis on Jan 8, 2008 14:14:56 GMT -5
<snark>
Khali didn't carry Cena?!
My world just shattered. It was like I was Alderaan and there was this Moon thing. And then just green light and BOOM!
Next you'll tell me that Shawn Michaels' name really isn't "Shawn Michaels" but something really goofy like Higgenbottom.
Have mercy! Please! I don't want to take the red pill! Gimme the blue pill! Gimme the blue one, man!!!
</snark>
I don't know why I just did that. Sarcasm plays poorly everywhere and even worse on the web. I guess I just had too much coffee this morning and I'm feeling a little goofy.
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