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Post by swarm on Jun 28, 2006 18:03:24 GMT -5
Swarm has Muscle Bustered the correct. SJ himself has repeatedly said that he is not a good fit for WWE. He didn't blindly come to this conclusion. It comes from stints working in UPW...which at the time was a WWE developmental affiliate similar to OVW. This meant seeing first hand what WWE expected of new talent from it's scouting agents, knowing who got 'deals' and why they got them and learning 'how things would go' if he was a part of the WWE roster. He knows what would be expected of him and how he would most likely be used...and all things considered has decided it's not what he wants for himself. That's why SJ never pursued a shot at OVW....he never even made inquiries. He lives in Cali and wasn't willing to relocate across the country and exchange his creative independence/local Indy gigs and overseas tours for uprooting himself and incurring more personal expenses with less in the way of income just for the prize of a developmental contract. He reasoned it would likely be a dead end and he's probably right. All things considered he's wound up doing well for himself on his own terms. I give him all the credit in the world for bucking the odds, carving his own niche and finding a way to make both a living and a name for himself. I respect even more the fact that he thoroughly understands the limitations inherent in the path he's chosen. It would be a much healthier industry if more guys had a good head on their shoulders like Samoa Joe does.
LWPD (depending upon how much creative leeway Paul Heyman is given...SJ could be a very good potential signing for the new ECW project...and if it was up to Paul he would probably be able to keep most of his persona and style in tact) "You don't need to be a rocket scientist to know that what Samoa Joe is and what WWE expects from their wrestlers just doesn't match up." -Joe Seannoa 'the man' on the prospects of 'Samoa Joe' the pro wres performer Man another great post Paint. Strong |
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Post by gatekeeper on Jun 28, 2006 18:13:23 GMT -5
But doesn't TNA do all their TV shows from Disney MGM Studios in Orlando? That's not exactly close to California.
Liked the rest of your post, though.
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Post by Splattercat on Jun 28, 2006 19:09:56 GMT -5
This is very true. TNA has been around for 4 years and how many of their guys have jumped to WWE. None. Why? Because they know. And because Vince knows too. So, I'm assuming Kid Kash, Paul London and CM Punk (albeit ECW) don't count..?  |
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Post by PureHatred on Jun 28, 2006 19:34:15 GMT -5
When was London and/or Punk in TNA? Both guys made thier name in ROH.
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Post by gatekeeper on Jun 28, 2006 20:31:24 GMT -5
This is very true. TNA has been around for 4 years and how many of their guys have jumped to WWE. None. Why? Because they know. And because Vince knows too. So, I'm assuming Kid Kash, Paul London and CM Punk (albeit ECW) don't count..? Well, I guess technically. So I'll revise, nobody from TNA have ever been a main event player in the WWE since its inception. |
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Post by swarm on Jun 28, 2006 22:39:57 GMT -5
This is very true. TNA has been around for 4 years and how many of their guys have jumped to WWE. None. Why? Because they know. And because Vince knows too. So, I'm assuming Kid Kash, Paul London and CM Punk (albeit ECW) don't count..? CM Punk was never in TNA. please. |
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Post by gwffantrav on Jun 28, 2006 22:42:10 GMT -5
Actually, I think he was for a while. Way before I started watching, but he was in a group with Raven for a while. Probably, if he was, at the beginning of the weekly PPVs
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Post by swarm on Jun 28, 2006 23:00:59 GMT -5
Actually, I think he was for a while. Way before I started watching, but he was in a group with Raven for a while. Probably, if he was, at the beginning of the weekly PPVs damn. |
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Post by canadianpittbull on Jun 28, 2006 23:21:29 GMT -5
yes CM Punk definately WAS a part of TNA as I watched his run with Raven's The Gathering of CM Punk, Julio Dinero and Alexis Laree AKA Mickie James.
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Post by gwffantrav on Jun 28, 2006 23:22:30 GMT -5
LOLOLOLOL!!! CPB, you are going to kill Swa, er DR by saying Mickie was in TNA!! I think that's his favorite!
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Post by canadianpittbull on Jun 28, 2006 23:26:54 GMT -5
Whether he likes it or not it is the way the cards fell and she wasn't really be used well other than a lackey in The Gathering anyways. She is far better off where she is. And I am a big fan as well.
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Post by gwffantrav on Jun 28, 2006 23:28:39 GMT -5
I definitely agree! She's one of the best characters the WWE has created in a long time. Plus, she's hot and 2) her "finger gesture" at Wrestlemania. How could you not dig that!
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Post by canadianpittbull on Jun 28, 2006 23:29:53 GMT -5
I definitely agree! She's one of the best characters the WWE has created in a long time. Plus, she's hot and 2) her "finger gesture" at Wrestlemania. How could you not dig that! Now I have to go out and pick that up!!!  |
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Post by Splattercat on Jun 28, 2006 23:35:34 GMT -5
So, I'm assuming Kid Kash, Paul London and CM Punk (albeit ECW) don't count..? Well, I guess technically. So I'll revise, nobody from TNA have ever been a main event player in the WWE since its inception. no need to revise...It was an incorrect assumption....It's not like I've never made one... ;D |
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Post by swarm on Jun 28, 2006 23:36:18 GMT -5
LOLOLOLOL!!! CPB, you are going to kill Swa, er DR by saying Mickie was in TNA!! I think that's his favorite! I knew that one. Now look where she is. What does that say? |
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Post by steelthunder814 on Jun 28, 2006 23:39:15 GMT -5
Well i read that finger gesture she did at WM 22 was cut out of the dvd but ah that was my fav wrestlemania moment knocked Pete Rose getting tombstoned by Kane at WM XIV
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Post by canadianpittbull on Jun 28, 2006 23:46:41 GMT -5
Well i read that finger gesture she did at WM 22 was cut out of the dvd but ah that was my fav wrestlemania moment knocked Pete Rose getting tombstoned by Kane at WM XIV They cut it out! Jerks!  |
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Post by gwffantrav on Jun 28, 2006 23:47:17 GMT -5
Well i read that finger gesture she did at WM 22 was cut out of the dvd but ah that was my fav wrestlemania moment knocked Pete Rose getting tombstoned by Kane at WM XIV Dang! I would have bought it just for that to be honest! CPB..you missed out!!! Why is it that Trish always has the best angles around Wrestlemania. First with Christian and then this past year with MIckie. Shame the ending got botched... |
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Post by steelthunder814 on Jun 28, 2006 23:52:00 GMT -5
I could be wrong bout that but thats what I read
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Post by gatekeeper on Jun 28, 2006 23:57:35 GMT -5
Well i read that finger gesture she did at WM 22 was cut out of the dvd But I have it on tape! ;D |
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