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Post by swarm on Nov 12, 2005 23:12:23 GMT -5
I've changed my mind. There is no one in TNA better than Jeff Jarrett to be their champion. nobody. I watched TNA tonite cause I have the flu and my God, what a horrible wrestling product this is...I'm sorry...I'm convinced the people who like this garbage are WWE haters through and through. First Monty Brown comes out and cuts the worst promo I have ever heard in my life...made me miss the Ultimate Warrior's promo's... then we get the first of the usual out of control brawls...  then we get Kip James? wtf? and then another generic brawl... and then the show closes with another pointless out of control brawl... wow. why are all these guys fighting each other? Where is the ring psychology? I truly believe Christian (who I'm a huge fan of) will be nothing more than another fading WWE wrestler lost in the TNA shuffle of nobody's... I really think when you are surrounded by the best, the best comes out of you, and unfortunately for Christian, the best guy in TNA, is in fact, Jeff Jarrett... so as sad as it is, soon enough, Christian will be crap too. |
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Post by tafkaga on Nov 12, 2005 23:31:24 GMT -5
Don't feed the troll.
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Post by Vidtek on Nov 12, 2005 23:58:57 GMT -5
Sorry, Swarm, but....I'm not going to change your mind and you won't change mine. I'll leave it at that.
Big Time.
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Post by thefamoustommyz on Nov 13, 2005 0:39:11 GMT -5
Smackdown TAPED owns wrestling...TNA taped is still better than Raw...if either were live, *man*...
FYI, Brown, Abyss and Hardy are killing each other to get a title shot...Team 3D is killing AMW because AMW has shat all over them, mostly because Team 3D targeted them when they arrived, because AMW has been the tag team standard bearer...and Rhino is trying to kill Jarrett because a) Jarrett's the World champion and b) Jarrett screwed him out of the NWA World title.
Team Canada's trying to kill Kip James because James is sticking his nose into their business, because he's old friends with B.G. James...3 Live Kru is trying to kill Team Canada in part because they're going after Kip for keeping them from screwing 3LK in recent matches, and B.G. and Killings think Kip's okay, but Konnan doesn't trust Kip because every time Kip does get involved, something bad happens to Konnan.
And Jarrett and AMW tried to kill Sabin, Hoyt and Hardy because a) they are prick heels and b) Hardy's a possible title contender thanks to his match with Monty (notice how the attack focused on hurting Hardy and keeping Sabin and Hoyt from preventing that).
Its all there...they just tend to show, more than tell.
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Post by Knapik on Nov 13, 2005 1:59:10 GMT -5
I disagree with almost everything you said.
"I watched TNA tonite cause I have the flu and my God, what a horrible wrestling product this is...I'm sorry...I'm convinced the people who like this garbage are WWE haters through and through, not real wrestling fans."
The single most bias thing ever said in the history of things... ever. I don't see how any real wrestling fan could consider WWE anything but garbage anymore. I had a deep love for the WWE for the longest time and its current incarnation is boring, unimaginative crap.
"First Monty Brown comes out and cuts the worst promo I have ever heard in my life...made me miss the Ultimate Warrior's promo's..."
I said I had a problem with ALMOST everything you wrote haha
"why are all these guys fighting each other?"
I suppose you'd have to watch more than one show in a row to follow a story, especially when it's being told a short hour at a time
"Where is the ring psychology?"
I watch a WWE wrestling match and can name just about everything that is about to happen in a match. There is no ring psychology. TNA puts on fun, unpredictable matches. There are WWE matches I like and TNA matches I dont like, but as a whole the gap between TNA's high and WWE's low is enormous.
"I truly believe Christian (who I'm a huge fan of) will be nothing more than another fading WWE wrestler lost in the TNA shuffle of nobody's..."
Christian is in his prime.How a wrestling fan could call AJ Styles or Christopher Daniels "nobody's" is beyond me.
"I really think when you are surrounded by the best, the best comes out of you, and unfortunately for Christian, the best guy in TNA, is in fact, Jeff Jarrett..."
Jeff Jarrett is FAR from the best wrestler in TNA, but he's actually been very good. I hated the guy before I watched his matches too Watch more shows. Be impressed. TNA is good stuff.
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Post by Knapik on Nov 13, 2005 2:00:52 GMT -5
An important thing to realize is that AJ STYLES is TNA's champion, not Jeff Jarrett.
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Post by gwffantrav on Nov 13, 2005 2:31:31 GMT -5
I have to agree about Monty Brown. He has natural charisma, BUT his interviews are spastic and goofy. That goofy head movement and when he says, "Pooouunncceeeeeee"...it's embarrassing to hear him do that when my wife is in the room while it's on..
But it's not as embarrassing as "Dr. Fist up JR's Butt"
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Post by tafkaga on Nov 13, 2005 2:37:21 GMT -5
Guys he's just posting to tick TNA fans off... don't feed it. Doesn't matter what he thinks.
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Post by pikemojo on Nov 13, 2005 4:17:22 GMT -5
An excellent summary of the current storylines going on in TNA Tommy. TNA may not be the best wrestling ever but to alot of people it is very entertaining and as Tommy said they show instead of tell.
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Post by swarm on Nov 13, 2005 10:03:21 GMT -5
Go fuck yourself. I'm troll? Because I don't like TNA? Why don't you stay the fuck off my threads if you have nothing to add to them. |
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Post by swarm on Nov 13, 2005 10:10:35 GMT -5
as for the rest of you, thanks for at least responding with something worth-while. I'm not trying to tick anybody off, or change anybody's mind. These are my feelings. Hey, I'm not big into WWE right now anyway.
I'm glad some of you guys like it. Hopefully it's ratings will go up, and Vince will put on a better show of his own...
I just don't see it.
and Tafgata, I was wrong about you...actually I was right about you, then wrong about you...
stay the fuck out of my way, and out of my threads if you have nothing to add to them. I have been around here for a whole helluva lot longer than you-on this board-and in this community. A lot of people here are my friends, so to say I'm trying to tick them off makes you look stupid. They know better. I'm saying what I see, and how I feel. If you don't like it, shut the fuck up.
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Post by dennish on Nov 13, 2005 10:51:03 GMT -5
Everyone knows where I stand with TNA and the WWE, and well Swarm states his mind and thats cool with me. My View on Jarrett, I agree with Swarm in part... he is TNA, and that means he started the promotion and he has his mark all over it no matter who likes him or hates him. I for one Like Jarrett, he is a great wrestler and a great villian. A.J. Styles in My View is second in TNA, and he is the face of TNA even if Jarrett is on Top. The only bad things right now about TNA is production, it's good some weeks to great and then so-so to bad... but I still like what they bring to the table. So in the end, we all have opinions and they will rub people the wrong way and well before I knew who Swarm was, he had me fired up... well thats a good thing in my view, Swarm is cool in my books and so are the many others that post here, so just keep standing by your opinions and lets keep those dice rolling.
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Post by swarm on Nov 13, 2005 10:59:22 GMT -5
Everyone knows where I stand with TNA and the WWE, and well Swarm states his mind and thats cool with me. My View on Jarrett, I agree with Swarm in part... he is TNA, and that means he started the promotion and he has his mark all over it no matter who likes him or hates him. I for one Like Jarrett, he is a great wrestler and a great villian. A.J. Styles in My View is second in TNA, and he is the face of TNA even if Jarrett is on Top. The only bad things right now about TNA is production, it's good some weeks to great and then so-so to bad... but I still like what they bring to the table. So in the end, we all have opinions and they will rub people the wrong way and well before I knew who Swarm was, he had me fired up... well thats a good thing in my view, Swarm is cool in my books and so are the many others that post here, so just keep standing by your opinions and lets keep those dice rolling. Thanks Dennis. And thanks to the people who have an open mind. |
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Post by Eric on Nov 13, 2005 11:25:07 GMT -5
I have not watched WWE since last summer and only know what's going on from info from friends and the bits and pieces from the web. I have watched TNA for no other reason that it is not the WWE. I agree Jeff Jarrett is apparently English for Where is my remote? I also know that the storylines are weak at best, BUT Styles is entertaining to watch and Team Canada, AMW & Team 3D are throwbacks to an era when the was tag teams. Does TNA have problems...YES. But it is not the WWE and that is all I care about. Sadly, I don't think that TNA can provide enough impact on the business to force the McMahon Family Happy Fun Time show to improve and we as fans are screwed again.
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Post by Jason Reso on Nov 13, 2005 11:47:29 GMT -5
Is Swarm a troll? Lets see:
Posting in the TNA Folder and creating an excuse as to why he watched the show. Strange but not quite trolling.
Making a comment most TNA fans would disagree with (Jeff Jarrett praise) and not explaining why he's the best other than to insult the rest of the roster without any intelligent analysis. Not a good quality post, but still not quite trolling.
Insulting TNA fans in mass by saying: "the people who like this garbage are WWE haters through and through, not real wrestling fans." Bingo...this is trolling.
Stereotyping whole groups of people is the mark of an imbecile. It's the basis for everything from bigotry, racism, sexism, homophobia to something as silly as 'pro wres fan trolling'. If Swarm is an adult I truly feel sorry for him and the other brilliant thoughts that make up his thinking. Good work Gordon outting this one.
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Post by swarm on Nov 13, 2005 12:00:33 GMT -5
Is Swarm a troll? Lets see: Posting in the TNA Folder and creating an excuse as to why he watched the show. Strange but not quite trolling. Making a comment most TNA fans would disagree with (Jeff Jarrett praise) and not explaining why he's the best other than to insult the rest of the roster without any intelligent analysis. Not a good quality post, but still not quite trolling. Insulting TNA fans in mass by saying: "the people who like this garbage are WWE haters through and through, not real wrestling fans." Bingo...this is trolling. Stereotyping whole groups of people is the mark of an imbecile. It's the basis for everything from bigotry, racism, sexism, homophobia to something as silly as 'pro wres fan trolling'. If Swarm is an adult I truly feel sorry for him and the other brilliant thoughts that make up his thinking. Good work Gordon outting this one. I love how guests come on here and bash me. Whos; the troll now...guest? |
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Post by Vidtek on Nov 13, 2005 12:11:20 GMT -5
I love how guests come on here and bash me. Whos; the troll now...guest? Gotta agree with Swarm here. I know how he feels and that is cool, I bear him no animosity. I won't even call him a troll. Did he start a thread in the TNA folder that wasn't TNA positive, yes. Did he say things that are a little over the top, probably but that is Swarm's style. Is he intitled to his oppinion, sure. And he did say that he wasn't really hip on WWE right now, and that jives with most TNA fans. TNA is still technically and Indy fed, all be it one with a nation wide TV contract. It does have problems, but it will get better. Now bashing him as a guest IS trolling, as you are just looking to incite his wrath. Big Time. |
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Post by tafkaga on Nov 13, 2005 13:52:53 GMT -5
Sorry Swarm but you don't scare me bud.
As for this being Swarm's style... sorry, but that's no excuse for acting like a total prick. Doesn't impress me, and I'll post where I please. Don't like it? Report me.
The guest is 100% correct in what he says about Swarm's trolling, and the only thing you guys have to say in response is to bring attention to the fact that he's a guest. Choke on a gnat and swallow a camel why dontcha.
Swarm doesn't just insult the TNA product, he insults the people who watch the product. Of course he's edited his post now so that it doesn't reflect this. Nice going Swarm, real brave of ya. His entire post was obviously made not to present a constructive view on TNA, but to incite the wrath of others. If you can't see that then you're not looking very hard. This is trolling plain and simple. Defending trolling because it's someone's "style" shows a total lack of spine.
This is a public forum, Swarm. You can post whatever crap you want to...but don't cry foul when people respond to it in a way that you don't think is fitting. You want to come on the forum and insult people who watch TNA? Groovy. Takes a really big man to act like a bully over the internet, but internet bullies don't impress me. I'll respond in whatever way I see fit, and anyone that doesn't like it can report me to the moderators. Ban me for all I care. Other people can sit back and marvel at your boldness for typing insults from behind your keyboard and shiver in fear of your wrath. Doesn't work with me bud. Not impressed.
You're a troll Swarm, and a bad one.
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I have to say I'm a little disappointed in you people. The guest replies with an intelligent and well thought out post. But you don't have any decent argument against it so you attack the fact that he's a guest. I have no idea why anyone would want to defend someone who carelessly insults whole groups of people simply because they like TNA.
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Post by swarm on Nov 13, 2005 14:06:50 GMT -5
Sorry Swarm but you don't scare me bud. As for this being Swarm's style... sorry, but that's no excuse for acting like a total prick. Doesn't impress me, and I'll post where I please. Don't like it? Report me. The guest is 100% correct in what he says about Swarm's trolling, and the only thing you guys have to say in response is to bring attention to the fact that he's a guest. Choke on a gnat and swallow a camel why dontcha. Swarm doesn't just insult the TNA product, he insults the people who watch the product. Of course he's edited his post now so that it doesn't reflect this. Nice going Swarm, real brave of ya. His entire post was obviously made not to present a constructive view on TNA, but to incite the wrath of others. If you can't see that then you're not looking very hard. This is trolling plain and simple. Defending trolling because it's someone's "style" shows a total lack of spine. This is a public forum, Swarm. You can post whatever crap you want to...but don't cry foul when people respond to it in a way that you don't think is fitting. You want to come on the forum and insult people who watch TNA? Groovy. Takes a really big man to act like a bully over the internet, but internet bullies don't impress me. I'll respond in whatever way I see fit, and anyone that doesn't like it can report me to the moderators. Ban me for all I care. Other people can sit back and marvel at your boldness for typing insults from behind your keyboard and shiver in fear of your wrath. Doesn't work with me bud. Not impressed. You're a troll Swarm, and a bad one. Edit: I have to say I'm a little disappointed in you people. The guest replies with an intelligent and well thought out post. But you don't have any decent argument against it so you attack the fact that he's a guest. I have no idea why anyone would want to defend someone who carelessly insults whole groups of people simply because they like TNA. I modified my post because it apparently came off different than I intended. My point was, that imo, TNA fans are mostly WWE haters, and not really fans of TNA because TNA is a great wrestling program, because, imo, it isn't. You can try and rally people against me, but there are a lot of people on here who are real cool with me, regardless of my opinions. |
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Post by thefamoustommyz on Nov 13, 2005 14:15:38 GMT -5
And there are some who suddenly feel a little too drained after finding out about another tragic wrestling loss to really get into *another* WWE vs TNA slapfight.
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