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Post by Chad Olson on Apr 15, 2006 19:03:55 GMT -5
"In regards to the Sandman's card. I'm assuming, the second "out of the ring" is followed by a (c) as well since there cannot be a (c) move on Level 1 Offense. Is this correct? But at the same time, can there be two "out of the rings", with both having the (c) option? "
The answer is..... I'm not sure! I don't THINK there is anyone with two (c) options covering both "out of the ring" rolls, but I'm not 100%. If that's the case, the card will have to be rebuilt, mostly like by switching the "into the turnbuckle" on L1O #6 and the "piledriver - 2 (ch A)" on L2O #4. By switching their places, we can stick a (c) on the buckle option which will now reside on L2O #4.
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Post by GalactiKing on Apr 15, 2006 22:33:05 GMT -5
Well if you do that, I think I will be picking up the Sandman revised card.
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Post by Slymm on Apr 15, 2006 22:41:16 GMT -5
Thanks for the input Chad. Sounds good to me, and really with all the work you guys put in, it is really just a small detail IMO. BTW, since somebody "flubbed" a little bit, maybe to make up for it, we could get a teaser for Legends Teams  Then, we'll call it even! Peace, Slymm |
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Post by Chad Olson on Apr 16, 2006 7:08:41 GMT -5
Nice try Slymm! The teasers are Tom's job, so that's up to him. I know he's working on a couple of last minute signings to give you all the strongest lineup possible. I'm very excited about all the cards we've turned in so far!
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Post by Slymm on Apr 16, 2006 19:26:04 GMT -5
Drats!!! Oh well, figured I'd give it a shot  Looking forward to the next set and seeing what you guys come up with. Peace! Slymm |
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Post by canadianpittbull on Apr 16, 2006 20:07:28 GMT -5
I didn't even noticed this? About Sandman's card I used him recently and noticed the lvl one choice issue and just ignored it.
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Post by Slymm on Apr 18, 2006 2:16:20 GMT -5
Question regarding Don Muraco's card.
On L1O #5 "neck crank - 2 (ch B)
Was this a mistake? I didn't think Choice moves were supposed to be on Level 1 Offense. If it was done in error, which Level 2 move should the (Ch B) be moved to? Just curious, and thanks.
Slymm
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Post by gwffantrav on Apr 18, 2006 2:50:19 GMT -5
Choice (ch ) can be made on Level 1 Offense. I don't know if it's an official rule, but I've heard on certain letters can appear on certain Level's on offense.
A,B,C,D can only appear on Levels 1 and 2. E, F can only appear on Level 2 and 3 and G, H can only appear on Level 3.
If I'm mistaken in that, please someone correct me.
But yes, they can appear on Level 1 Offense moves...
Keep the dice rolling.
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Post by TDalton on Apr 18, 2006 7:50:20 GMT -5
Regarding the (ch X) question:
A, B, C, F are only attached to level 2 type moves:
dropkick-2 (ch C) is good
brainbuster-3 (ch F) is no good
D, E, G, H are all attached to level 3 type moves:
cross body block-3 (ch E) is good
arm wringer-2 (ch H) is no good
G, H appear only on Level 3 Offense.
I believe there are a few rare instances of a D or E appearing on Level 1 Offense (usually on #6).
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Post by Slymm on Apr 18, 2006 10:45:30 GMT -5
Thanks GWFFanTrav and Tim.
Just wanted to make sure because it just didn't look right to me. I guess it's been awhile since I've seen a (Ch) move on Level 1. Either that, or I haven't been paying close enough attention. But thanks for clearing that up.
Slymm
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Post by Cory Olson on Apr 18, 2006 11:36:57 GMT -5
I got in on this conversation late. In regards to Slymm's question about whether or not a guy can have two "out of the rings" with both having the (c), I have seen it done with some COTG guys, even recent ones. It isn't that common, but I have seen it (I will try and find a specific example later). I checked that before doing my Andre bootleg, because I wanted to give Andre the edge in battle royals, but give him the option of choosing in a regular match. Basically in order to have that, the guy needs to have no (c) option on one of the other chart moves. I can't believe that error on Sandman's card went unnoticed so long! And no, I didn't make Sandman. Once again, my brother blames me for things I didn't do! Just like when we were kids.  |
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Post by Cory Olson on Apr 18, 2006 11:39:30 GMT -5
OK, I already found an example Nightmare in Revelations 2115 has two "out of the rings," both with choices. Here is the rest of his chart moves: *"into the turnbuckle" on L1O with no (c) *(ch A) on L2O *(ch H) on L3O |
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Post by Tom on Apr 18, 2006 11:52:21 GMT -5
Yup, that's a mistake on Sandman's card. I'm as surprised as everyone else that it's taken so long to notice it especially considering that I've looked at it so many times when I play. He should have two "out of the ring (c)" on L3O.
It's perfect timing for us to correct it when we reprint the first edition.
The rules summaries have been great on this thread. It's the little things that some players don't notice and probably don't mean a darn thing but a little structure sometimes goes a long way.
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Post by Chad Olson on Apr 18, 2006 12:34:27 GMT -5
"I believe there are a few rare instances of a D or E appearing on Level 1 Offense (usually on #6)."
I think we've done that a few times in Legends, and it has happened in COTG.
"And no, I didn't make Sandman. Once again, my brother blames me for things I didn't do! Just like when we were kids."
Isn't that what big brothers are for? I must have made you watch all the ECW tapes to get moves for him. Or maybe I just did it.....
"The rules summaries have been great on this thread. It's the little things that some players don't notice and probably don't mean a darn thing but a little structure sometimes goes a long way."
They sure can drive us crazy making the cards though! But that's the fun part, balancing everyone out so they don't look the same but they're at similar levels.
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Post by canadianpittbull on Apr 26, 2006 10:54:38 GMT -5
Well the odd human error is no biggie it at least gives a reminder that there is a soul behind the curtain and that folks such as yourself and others apart of the creative process of putting these cards out have the passion for giving the best possible cards that you can without losing the essence of the wrestler while still keeping them balanced and legal as far as the rules are considered.
I rather have a "in the trenches" feel to a company than a large corporation of faceless goons that go through the motions for the sake of money and not for the sake of the product. Good Work and I really like that Andre card!!! I put him up against my Hogan Bootleg and man the two of them pretty much re-enacted that match they had in Japan that I posted in the Wrestling Streaming thread. Ended in a Double DQ. If you ever get Andre I would be happy with that set of stats and love Trav's artwork for Andre! Absolute gorgeous! Would love that to be the official card art!
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Post by Cory Olson on Jul 22, 2006 17:16:40 GMT -5
I e-mailed Tom about this a few days ago, but I thought I'd post it here too. The only mistake from the "Teams" set (that we've found so far!) is after Wild Red Berry's SMASH WITH CANE finisher, there should be a "dis" listed to indicate that Berry could possibly get disqualified for the move. Not a huge deal, but I just thought I'd let you guys know.
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Post by Slymm on Jul 22, 2006 18:21:30 GMT -5
Thanks Cory.
I was wondering about that, but like you said, it wasn't a big deal. You guys did a great job with Teams, I got mine today and am very happy with it.
Slymm
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Post by Cory Olson on Jul 22, 2006 19:37:52 GMT -5
Thanks for the kind words, Slymm! |
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Post by GalactiKing on Jul 22, 2006 22:42:23 GMT -5
*chuckles* considering Berry's talents, maybe it being no DQ might get him an extra victory or two.
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Post by canadianpittbull on Aug 8, 2006 20:32:45 GMT -5
Maybe you can make a roll to see whether you use the dis on a roll of a 1 or a 6? Make it interesting? Berry gets a way with it cleaning or adds some chance to getting caught? Never mind the die roll would do that anyway. Ignore this post....  |
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Then, we'll call it even!
Looking forward to the next set and seeing what you guys come up with. Peace!
