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Post by LWPD on Apr 2, 2006 12:18:17 GMT -5
"I found out where you worked and sent them in to report you for harrassment." what... the...? Am I the only person bothered by this? LWPD - did you spend any part of Saturday or Sunday making that nifty new icon?  Nah...I've got quite a few LWPD Avatars stockpiled from a while back. I get bored looking at them and replace them every few weeks. |
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Post by swarm on Apr 2, 2006 12:35:03 GMT -5
"I found out where you worked and sent them in to report you for harrassment." what... the...? Am I the only person bothered by this? LWPD - did you spend any part of Saturday or Sunday making that nifty new icon? Nah...I've got quite a few LWPD Avatars stockpiled from a while back. I get bored looking at them and replace them every few weeks. I want one in red that says deftones or do you hate me too much to hook me up? I'll give you a set of free belts if you do...they will be done in time for Galacticon. |
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Post by LWPD on Apr 2, 2006 12:43:45 GMT -5
Wow a compliment from 'swarm' followed by me now helping him by answering his question...very strange! For the avatars I use a program called Xara 3d6. My girl once saw me using my old 'paint can' avatar on a political board and challenged me to come up with something less static by using her program. If you want to make 'stunning, professional-quality 3D web graphics' you can buy the Xara at the link below: tinyurl.com/k7gkl
Like Watching Paint Dry (while easy to make...not every avatar is going to be a winner...and sometimes they look better in the 'planning stage' then they do in execution) |
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Post by LWPD on Apr 2, 2006 12:45:56 GMT -5
Nah...I've got quite a few LWPD Avatars stockpiled from a while back. I get bored looking at them and replace them every few weeks. I want one in red that says deftones or do you hate me too much to hook me up? I'll give you a set of free belts if you do...they will be done in time for Galacticon. I don't 'hate you'. This is just a message board. I've been just as big a jerk as you have at times. |
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Post by gatekeeper on Apr 2, 2006 13:53:52 GMT -5
You know that you were the one who threatened to beat me up at Galacticon. Come on Rob... I laughed about this one for days. Well, no matter what the situation, to actually go to a board member's place of employment and "report" them, or whatever is totally uncalled for. And, this quote of yours doesn't make sense. I don't think you'd be laughing if you ever saw Swarm, especially when he's pisssed. (This is not a threat, just fact) You say you were giving him material to use in his fed, fine. But then, in the same breath you denigrate Swarm for "flaming you" in his fed with this exact stuff. Seems a little hypocritical. You're saying Swarm is always incorrectly saying that you're crazy. But when someone says "you are really creative" and "I enjoy reading the Plethador skits" in one sentence.....then in the next calling you a retard and dumbass and basically saying the moderators aren't doing their jobs correctly......it comes across as bi-polar. I don't think you're sitting around naked in front of your computer 24/7 or anything. Actually I think you have some well thought out points on a lot of the issues on the board, but when it comes to Swarm, you seem to become a different person. |
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Post by tafkaga on Apr 2, 2006 15:35:22 GMT -5
1. There is no anger in any of my posts in this thread. Yes, I've been angry at him before and that anger has come out. No, I'm not angry at him now or any of you. It's merely the way that I write. I've been a part of many debates on many boards and in real life discussions. It's just how I communicate. I'm not a tempermental person in real life, and I'm not on the internet either.
2. I didn't go to his place of employment to report him. I clearly said that I could figure out where he worked just by his e-mail address. All it took was a basic internet search. Whether you think it's appropriate or not is no concern of mine.
3. LWPD, you have no idea why I was on the computer that late. If you checked the times of many of my other posts outside this thread you'd see that I'm ALWAYS on the computer that late. If you ran a home business that required you to be at your computer working 12+ hours a day you might understand the need for diversions from the tedium of that work.
4. There's nothing hypocritical about appreciating someone's creativity but not appreciating their motives. This is exactly how I feel about Swarm's fed. I think the skits are funny and that he's a very creative guy, but I don't appreciate his motives for creating the skits. I can take a joke and laugh at myself as well as the next guy, but when the other guys motives are to victimize me with his creativity, that's where my appreciation ends.
5. You're right. If a person walks up to me in real life and gets ready to kick my butt, I'm probably not going to laugh. I'm not the biggest or the strongest...I'm just an average guy of average size and strength. But when people threaten to beat me up over the Internet, THEN I think laughter is called for.
6. I was a newspaper editor in both high school and college, partly because I was good with words and could debate. If my end of the debate comes off as anger or frustration, it's being misinterpreted. I'm merely being concise, to the point, and trying to beat my opponent into the ground with facts much like a good prosecuter.
Thanks for participating. I'm going back to work now.
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Post by BrianU on Apr 2, 2006 15:50:23 GMT -5
I am so glad this great game and board can bring you two together to act like junior high kids. Enough is enough. Do this junk in email, dont waste board space on this.
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Post by butters on Apr 2, 2006 15:56:19 GMT -5
How much do you want to bet at least one of them respond again?
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Post by Joe on Apr 2, 2006 16:01:34 GMT -5
Maybe you should try communicating with people other than a few fans wrestling fans on the Internet if you spend 12+ hours each day working at your computer. Seriously, Tafkaga, I know I would go nuts if I spent that much time with no human contact other than that of Internet discussion.
As for what you said elsewhere in your most recent rant, I really don't know how you can "beat your opponent into the ground with facts," when so little of what you say seems to make any sense. The fact that you refer to a discussion about pro wrestling in such terms shows that you may have an anger-related issue that needs to be dealt with. You have a lot of issues, though, which is most likely the reason you feel the need to air all your laundy and frustration on a discussion board.
Trust when I tell you, you really do seem to need help of some kind.
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Post by hawk on Apr 2, 2006 17:23:44 GMT -5
Joe: And if you don't think posts like that fan the issues more then you have issues as well.
I really don't like how this turned into a gangbang on Gordon, since I want these rules to apply to EVERYONE. Myself included. No one has the right to make someone else feel like shit in a message board where people post FOR FUN. Ever. If I happen to do it, then I'd accept my punishment like a man.
This place seriously needs pulled together some and not have the inmates run the asylum so often. There has to be rules, there has to be structure to protect everyone's common needs as posters. No exceptions, no exclusions. A board without formal enforced rules is pure anarchy waiting to happen. If you don't think we're not going to have a repeat of this with other people eventually, you're living in a dream world.
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Post by Chris Ingersoll on Apr 3, 2006 10:30:45 GMT -5
This place seriously needs pulled together some and not have the inmates run the asylum so often. There has to be rules, there has to be structure to protect everyone's common needs as posters. No exceptions, no exclusions. A board without formal enforced rules is pure anarchy waiting to happen. If you don't think we're not going to have a repeat of this with other people eventually, you're living in a dream world. I think you have a gross misconception about how this board is actually run and operates, colored by your own experience. Here's the way I see things: On one side of this issue: Swarm, Joe, Gatekeeper, maybe a few others. On the other side: Tafkaga (before he deleted his account again  ), Hawk, Floyd (who doesn't post that often because of Swarm), maybe a few others. Watching these same half-dozen people make 90% of the noise again and again and again: Paul, Jim, Tommy, (WTIC,) and myself. Minding their own business and otherwise enjoying the boards: some 250 other members. The inmates are not running the Asylum. The Asylum, if one exists, only contains a handful of inmates. Everyone else is acting like a well-behaved memeber of a community outside the Asylum. If you're complaining about how the Asylum is run, them maybe you should consider why you're an inmate in the first place. This issue has become an issue only because neither side is willing to let it fully die. A few cooler heads have largely moved on from this (including one or two of the names I mentioned above, IMO), and one side has certainly carried the banner more than the other, but there's still input from both ends of it. It's this board's version of the Montreal Screwjob, and I'm just as tired of hearing the arguments about it. Also, in that vein: Actually I think you have some well thought out points on a lot of the issues on the board, but when it comes to Swarm, you seem to become a different person. what's driving me to indifference here. In any other area of the board, by their own admission, Swarm and Tafkaga interact(ed) like any other two random people on this board. But for some reason the TNA forum is always Ground Zero. I don't see these slap-fights in any of the CotG forums. I don't see these arguments in any of the Off-Topic forums (ok, sometimes Sports gets rowdy, but that's to be expected). I don't even see them get this bad in the WWE forum! And when the heavy flame war occasionally does spill out into other furms -- like this one -- it is often because of something that started in the TNA forum! Why is it only the TNA forum*? What is it about that forum that makes it such a gods-damned powderkeg that Swarm can set off -- by accident many times, although sometimes it does appear to be more intentional? Are the TNA fans really that thin-skinned? Do they really care that much about what one loudmouth from Detroit has to say about the product (and sometimes themselves)? Seriously? Is that it? Because I fail to understand it. * What Swarm does in the Fed Forum is paordy for his own amusement and the amusement of those who read it; if you don't find it entertaining, then stop reading the thread. I don't consider that part of this issue. |
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Post by GOODZILLA on Apr 3, 2006 17:36:12 GMT -5
I have been coming to these boards now for at least 3 years. It's a great way to unwind and forget about the pressures and annoyances of the real world. I love coming here.
The altercations between tafkaga and swarm are usually kind of humurous to me (and I think it's safe to say that I am not alone in that sentiment).
I am gathering it all started because of the Wrestle Wars debacle that went on here a few months back. Like Gordon, I found myself inquiring about that game. Not because I wasn't being loyal to Tom, but just out of curiousity. There is absolutely nothing in this world that will stop me from supporting COTG and enjoying this game. But, I looked into it, decideded it wasn't for me and haven't even given that game a second thought. I won't hold a grudge against tafkaga for going over to their boards. I don't even know if he ordered their game or not.
I also don't blame Swarm for how he felt about that. I think I remember him saying he is friends with Tom, and he defended his friend. I think the whole issue had more to do with HOW the Wrestle War guys marketed their product (by mudslinging against Tom) and when Gordon publicly admitted that he supported WW, Swarm took that as a slap in the face to Tom. I understand where he's coming from there.
The bottom line is, neither of these guys have ever done anything horrible enough to be banned from here. They are fans like the rest of us, and I think they both have a lot to offer the COTG universe.
I know Gordon was the webmaster for the ICOF website (which I happen to think is one of the better bootleg sites out there). Like Gatekeeper said, he is also a pretty valuable member of the community here and has participated in many, many threads and often brings a lot to the the discussion.
I also feel these boards need someone like Swarm. Love him or hate him (there's no middle ground here apparently lol) he keeps things interesting. While I don't always agree with his views, I enjoy his creativity and sense of humor. I will admit to laughing right out loud when he started the poll about the best NWA champion of all time in the midst of the heated debate in the TNA section. While I know that some people here took offense to that, I personally found it very funny. It was a great response, and one that didn't involve name calling or personal attacks.
Both of these guys are ok in my book, and although I would agree that Gordon crossed the line by bringing the real world into their fight, I hope that they both continue to contribute to our little corner of the web for a long time to come .... even if Swarm vs. Plethador is kinda played out.
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Post by Chris Ingersoll on Apr 3, 2006 17:51:50 GMT -5
although I would agree that Gordon crossed the line by bringing the real world into their fight To be prefectly fair (and since Gordon can no longer present his side), technically Swarm crossed that line first with his "PC virus" threats late last year. The two situations aren't equal, but at the time Gordon was more or less justified in his own mind. |
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Post by GOODZILLA on Apr 3, 2006 17:57:25 GMT -5
although I would agree that Gordon crossed the line by bringing the real world into their fight To be prefectly fair (and since Gordon can no longer present his side), technically Swarm crossed that line first with his "PC virus" threats late last year. The two situations aren't equal, but at the time Gordon was more or less justified in his own mind. Well said, and I would commend Gordon on trying to take the high road the last few weeks. You just have two very different personalities and it's natural for them to clash. When it went to far last year with the virus threats, Swarm was banned temporarily, which I thought was a fair move. To my knowledge he hasn't done anything like that since, and you can't ban a guy for arguing his opinion. Did Gordon delete himself, or was he removed? Or is it none of my business??  |
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Post by Chris Ingersoll on Apr 3, 2006 18:09:39 GMT -5
Nah, that was his own decision. If he had been removed in any other way, I wouldn't still be discussing this.
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Post by canadianpittbull on Apr 4, 2006 12:09:39 GMT -5
Ultimately since the WWE/TNA boards are causing all this huff I say get rid of them. There are plenty of other forums on the net for disscussion on current wrestling.
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Post by Chris Ingersoll on Apr 4, 2006 12:15:56 GMT -5
Ultimately since the WWE/TNA boards are causing all this huff I say get rid of them. There are plenty of other forums on the net for disscussion on current wrestling. What part of "it's just the TNA board" are you having problems with? Any problems in the WWE board are either started in the TNA board or are resolved without too much trouble. |
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Post by gwffantrav on Apr 4, 2006 12:17:20 GMT -5
Naw, dont' get rid of them. Just because there are two that have major disagreements doesn't mean shut them down.
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Post by nelson on Apr 4, 2006 12:19:29 GMT -5
or just go to the ones you like and ignore the ones you don't.
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Post by gwffantrav on Apr 4, 2006 12:28:39 GMT -5
I don't know if this is even possible, but is there some kind of function that will allow users to ingnore other users?
Say if tafkaga came back. Could he check a button that would ignore Swarm and his posts wouldnt' come up under tafkaga's login?
Not that I'm saying it should even come to that...just wondering?
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), Hawk, Floyd (who doesn't post that often because of Swarm), maybe a few others.
