Rule proposal

[swarm]

tafkaga said:

I'd also like to point out that your dumbass buddy is very good at conveniently forgetting all the rabble rousing he did around here for a month about something incredibly stupid. He never addresses the lame-ass threats that he made either. Is there anyone here who has any grasp on reality?

now I hate to have to do this, because a pm is a pm but screw it...

this is a pm I sent to Gordon March 24th...

cotg.proboards12.com/index.cgi?action=pmview&view=2&id=1143250397

add this the e-mails I sent from my work where I extended an olive branch to him which resulted in Gordon sending a complaint to my human resources dept. asking that I be terminated based on threatening him through company e-mail...

to the skit in TGFITG where Swarm apologizes to Plethador for threating him with a "swarm attack"...

so don't run around here crying like a baby that I never addressed it.

You have now called me a retard, a dumbass and a few other names in this little crusade of yours and Chris has let all that go...

you have caused more of a distraction from "wrestling" with your announcements of leaving, and coming back, and apologizing, then crying about your thread being deleted, to your nervous breakdown live on the interent, to your constant claims of putting it all behind you and moving on, than anything I or anyone here has ever done...

and Chris has let that all go, but tried to give you the hint by locking your ridiculous threads...

I suggest you stand by your word, shut the [censored] up about it, and move on while your ahead.

[butters]

I find it ironic that a thread about how we need tougher rules against personal attacks resulted in... personal attacks.

[gwffantrav]

Well, I was looking forward to reading it, but there was an error. Oh well...

[Darth Turkish]

butters said:

I find it ironic that a thread about how we need tougher rules against personal attacks resulted in... personal attacks.

I also find it funny that this issue, which was supposed to be "gone and forgotten" is quite lively and spry.

[tafkaga]

swarm said:

now I hate to have to do this, because a pm is a pm but screw it...

this is a pm I sent to Gordon March 24th...

cotg.proboards12.com/index.cgi?action=pmview&view=2&id=1143250397

add this the e-mails I sent from my work where I extended an olive branch to him which resulted in Gordon sending a complaint to my human resources dept. asking that I be terminated based on threatening him through company e-mail...

to the skit in TGFITG where Swarm apologizes to Plethador for threating him with a "swarm attack"...

so don't run around here crying like a baby that I never addressed it.

You have now called me a retard, a dumbass and a few other names in this little crusade of yours and Chris has let all that go...

you have caused more of a distraction from "wrestling" with your announcements of leaving, and coming back, and apologizing, then crying about your thread being deleted, to your nervous breakdown live on the interent, to your constant claims of putting it all behind you and moving on, than anything I or anyone here has ever done...

and Chris has let that all go, but tried to give you the hint by locking your ridiculous threads...

I suggest you stand by your word, shut the [censored] up about it, and move on while your ahead.

You're full of it.

First of all, your PM link doesn't even work.

Second, your "olive branches" were condescending and insulting, and Chris knows it because I forwarded them on to him as evidence that you were not even sorry. His reply was that he could not make any decisions based on anything that went on outside of the board.

Third, your "olive branches" were coming from your work e-mail account. I found out where you worked and sent them in to report you for harrassment. There was nothing apologetic about them. That would be like me telling you that I was sorry and then punching you in the face. I never requested that you be fired. I don't know WHERE you got that story. I merely forwarded your e-mails to them to inspect for themselves. If there was nothing in them that was of a harrassing nature, why would I have even sent them in?

Fourth, I requested that two of my threads be locked. Chris knows it. The other one was locked because of a fight that you started.

Fifth, issuing an apology from one fantasy character to another fantasy character in a fantasy wrestling federation is not taking responsibility like a man. This is a reason that I have no respect for you. You can't just act like a man and take responsibility and say "I was wrong". You have to mix it up with sarcastic and condescending comments and you expect me to take it and feel lucky and privileged to get it. Bleh.

Sixth, you need to look in the mirror if you really believe that I'm on some kind of a crusade. Who opened up today's dialogue with insults? It was you. Who is carrying on the day to day bashing of me in your little fantasy fed? It's you. Who's creating threads out of practically NOWHERE just to confront me. It's you. You're such a child.

Did I threaten you in PM's? No, but you did. Do I follow you around every day looking for material to use against you? No, but you do. Do I start threads out of the blue with the sole purpose of pissing you off? No, but you do. There's absolutely nothing that you can say in truth that can turn this around on me, because I'm not the person that started it and I'm not the person that keeps spurring it on and won't let it die. It's you, Robert. If you could just contain it to a thread, I'd be fine with it and I'd even stay away from that thread... but you seem obsessed with villainizing me.

It's the same thing every time...you misquote me, take me out of context, or just come up with some outright lie for the sole purpose of irritating me... then you sit back and act like I'm the basketcase. I really don't understand you. You just need to grow up, Rob. Your buddies might be impressed with how big and macho you come across on the forum, but I'm really not.

[tafkaga]

turkish said:

I also find it funny that this issue, which was supposed to be "gone and forgotten" is quite lively and spry.

Answer this question for me. How can it be gone and forgotten when I have one person drilling it into my head every day, and friends of that person who won't let it die either? Do you understand how futile it is to try to get past something when there are a hand full of people who keep dragging it out?

This thread just drags it out. I know that Hawk meant well, but he wrote it out of irritation with Swarm and I. It just gave Swarm another excuse to flame and then blame me for it. If people are really really irritated with me I would INVITE YOU to report me to Chris and get me banned. I really don't care because I have other things in life beyond this. But as long as I'm a customer of Filsinger games, a faithful promoter, and a fan of COTG... I'm going to post here. No one is going to run me off this board. No one.

[soug]

You're right, no one should run you off the board. I just wouldnt take things so seriously.
Personally ( and I might upset some people here), the "feud" is quite entertaining.And I know Im not the only one that thinks so.
I see nothing wrong with two guys " going at it". It is a wrestling forum after all.
be cool.

[swarm]

No.1) I don't know why my link doesn't work but here it is c+p'd...

look...I have no problem calling a truce...

I told you a long time ago it was over, and did my best to apologize for the stupid things I said and did...

but the facts are this Gordon, and please, do not take this as a threat, or make it out to be anything more than it is ok?...

but you tried to [censored] me at my job, and for that I can never forgive you...

I understand how you may have taken those e-mails as half-assed apologies, and maybe at the time, that is what they were...but they were apologies (an olive branch as I explained) nonetheless...

but you took our fight and brought it to the real world...and while your complaint to my company was laughed off by my superiors, you tried to [censored] me where it counts...

had you cost me my job Gordon, there is no telling what I would have done to you...you crossed a line and I hope you can understand why that would upset me like it did, and still does...

to be honest, and truthful, there is a part of me that [censored] hates you for trying to pull that and if I did come across you face to face I'm not sure how I would handle it...I'm just being honest, but I'm a different creature...I don't have a lot of control over my emotions...I never have...again, I am just being honest with you...

I have no problem with you...really, you are no different than anyone else I've ever butted heads with in my life (and there have been many)...except that you tried to get me fired from my job and [censored] up my career...

I'm sorry Gordon, but I just can't forgive you for that, or control how it makes me feel...

there is no reason to be cute with me, welcome me to a thread or try to "make nice" with me on the boards...

after all we have been through it comes off as disingenuous and weak...

we can debate, that's fine...

but I think it's best if we just leave it at that and ignore each other as best as possible...

I have a lot of resentment toward you Gordon, and I'm sorry but that is how I feel.

I hope you respectfully understand and don't use this confession against me in the future, or publicly on the boards.

Thanks,

Rob

No. 2) you need to give it up. you are a complete embarrassment to yourself and need to move on with life. you constant obsession with me, and all your issues with me is no longer fun...it's weird, and disturbing. Leave me the [censored] alone...don't talk about me, don't respond to my posts...go on with life as if i were never alive.

you clearly have emotional and psychological issues that I no longer feel right even making fun of.

One minute you are calling me a retard, and the next minute you are pm'ing me about using AIM to talk with you? And when I don't open your pm and ignore you you ask me if I have AIM in this thread with a ? Then you follow that up by calling me Chris Ingersoll's "dumbass" friend and crying about me again...

you are a total pyscho and you need help.

You have a serious problem and I'm done having fun with someone who needs serious medical help...

it's bad karma and to be honest, I'm bored with you.

I'm out.

swarm

[tafkaga]

swarm said:

No.1) I don't know why my link doesn't work but here it is c+p'd...

look...I have no problem calling a truce...

I told you a long time ago it was over, and did my best to apologize for the stupid things I said and did...

but the facts are this Gordon, and please, do not take this as a threat, or make it out to be anything more than it is ok?...

but you tried to [censored] me at my job, and for that I can never forgive you...

I understand how you may have taken those e-mails as half-assed apologies, and maybe at the time, that is what they were...but they were apologies (an olive branch as I explained) nonetheless...

but you took our fight and brought it to the real world...and while your complaint to my company was laughed off by my superiors, you tried to [censored] me where it counts...

had you cost me my job Gordon, there is no telling what I would have done to you...you crossed a line and I hope you can understand why that would upset me like it did, and still does...

to be honest, and truthful, there is a part of me that [censored] hates you for trying to pull that and if I did come across you face to face I'm not sure how I would handle it...I'm just being honest, but I'm a different creature...I don't have a lot of control over my emotions...I never have...again, I am just being honest with you...

I have no problem with you...really, you are no different than anyone else I've ever butted heads with in my life (and there have been many)...except that you tried to get me fired from my job and [censored] up my career...

I'm sorry Gordon, but I just can't forgive you for that, or control how it makes me feel...

there is no reason to be cute with me, welcome me to a thread or try to "make nice" with me on the boards...

after all we have been through it comes off as disingenuous and weak...

we can debate, that's fine...

but I think it's best if we just leave it at that and ignore each other as best as possible...

I have a lot of resentment toward you Gordon, and I'm sorry but that is how I feel.

I hope you respectfully understand and don't use this confession against me in the future, or publicly on the boards.

Thanks,

Rob

No. 2) you need to give it up. you are a complete embarrassment to yourself and need to move on with life. you constant obsession with me, and all your issues with me is no longer fun...it's weird, and disturbing. Leave me the [censored] alone...don't talk about me, don't respond to my posts...go on with life as if i were never alive.

you clearly have emotional and psychological issues that I no longer feel right even making fun of.

One minute you are calling me a retard, and the next minute you are pm'ing me about using AIM to talk with you? And when I don't open your pm and ignore you you ask me if I have AIM in this thread with a ? Then you follow that up by calling me Chris Ingersoll's "dumbass" friend and crying about me again...

you are a total pyscho and you need help.

You have a serious problem and I'm done having fun with someone who needs serious medical help...

it's bad karma and to be honest, I'm bored with you.

I'm out.

swarm

Oh brother. The only thing even reasonably non-pathetic about that post was the fact that you at least didn't alter the PM. Yes folks, he did send me that PM. My response to him was that I didn't care. So explain to me Swarm why if you wanted to call a truce, you continued playing your little games on a daily basis? I've said since the beginning that I would have loved to have worked things out with you, but you never wanted that. What you wanted was for me to accept a half-assed apology with a bunch of sarcasm, condescending remarks, and poorly disguised threats. Then after you made your apology you CONTINUED to play your stupid little games of trying to bait me. I learned to ignore most of them and laugh off the rest. You are a loose cannon, and your attempts to make a truce were never the least bit sincere.

My attempts at getting your AIM screen name was to see if we could talk about this privately away from the board. If you want to distort that to make me look psycho, go ahead. In fact, if making believe that I'm a psycho who needs help will be enough to make you stop playing these pathetic games, I encourage it. Yes, I'm a complete raving madman. I'm sitting here buck naked, haven't bathed in 3 weeks, hitting Refresh on my browser to wait for you to post because I'm obsessed with you Swarm. When you're not posting on the forum I read your old PM's and have daydreams about fighting you in Iron Man matches at WrestleMania. I'm nearly dehydrated but I'll die happy just responding to your posts.

You've played psychologist so now I think I will. I don't have a license, so my diagnosis won't be professional... but it most likely won't be as stupid as yours.

You don't have a shred of fact to support your being right and me being wrong. You know that you were the one acting like a raving madman on here for a month over the whole Wrestling Wars thing, screaming that I was a traitor and taking your little grudge to every thread I posted in. You know that you were the one who threatened to beat me up at Galacticon. Come on Rob... I laughed about this one for days. You know that you were the one that threatened to have your buddies fry my computer....come on Rob, that's pathetic! You know that you lied to me in those "olive branch" e-mails you sent about how I was trying to ruin your wife and daughter's lives by getting you fired...and I came to find out recently you don't even HAVE a wife and daughter. You've got to be a complete and total idiot to not realize how utterly pathetic you are. I don't think you're an idiot Rob, you seem very intelligent to me...so you're living in denial of your own patheticness. Your only way to combat the harsh reality that you're a pathetic child is to try to grind me under your figurative heel until I scream "uncle" or until I leave the board in surrender, so that you can proclaim yourself the winner.

Hey, like I said... I'm not a professional, but it's still incredibly hilarious and in many ways accurate. But I digress. Yes Robert, I'm completely insane and don't you forget it. I could have a heart attack and die at any moment now. Have pity.

[swarm]

yeah my buddies offered to fry your computer but they never did...they still offer to do it to this day, and they are people who read this [stuff] everyday...

yeah I told you if I were to meet you in person to watch your step. if that translates to I may kick your sorry-ass then so be it.

what you don't understand is that I don't want to "work things out with you" or waste time away from this board talking to you on AIM...

what else you don't understand is that you set yourself on a daily basis for my fed...and people love it...look at the views I get...look at all the pm's I get from people saying how hilarious Plethador is...

I can't help it if your brain can't process this...

you are a [censored] joke and you need to call it quits...

leave me alone.

[tafkaga]

I'm so glad you posted.

The truth is, the Plethador skits are funny. When I post these days I can always depend on the fact that something I say will turn up in your fed. Even if I don't have an amusing post, you find something else like the fact that I have the "invisible" option checked in my profile to make fun of. I told GWFfantrav in PM's that I enjoyed the fed too. Anyone who reads the "invisible users" thread will see me playing the the gimmicks to give you material for your fed. I find them funny for 2 reasons... first because you are a very creative person, and second because you obviously think you're terrorizing me with them. You've got me all wrong, Rob.

I'm happy that you confessed to all the other stuff you did. I think there's an old saying that confession is good for the soul. Keep on posting bud, because we seem to finally be getting at the truth here. Don't stop while you're on a roll.

[swarm]

my whole point is that I have appologized...

do I think that your whole crusade has taken an uncomfortable turn and exposed you as having a perverted obsession with a gown man? yeah I confess to that too...

get some help kid. you need it.

[tafkaga]

Mr. Broken Record, thanks for your enlightening contribution to this discussion.

The thing is Rob, there are a lot of people on this forum who like you. You seem like you can be a good and likeable guy. You're obviously a guy of extremes. It's a shame that the whole Wrestling Wars fiasco and the threats had to happen, because we might have been able to be friends. Guess that's not going to happen though. Just make sure next time before you decide to victimize someone for some idiotic reason that you're more careful about who you single out.

Now it's late... I need to take my medication and put my straight jacket on so I can get some sleep. Goodnight.

[hawk]

...Notice how this thread stopped being about my idea?

Yeah, just pointing it out.

[butters]

This is an awesome battle of who will get the last word. I think I might go to Off-Topic Polls right now and post it as a poll!

[gwffantrav]

There is no doubt, when PWI has their write in awards each year in their awards issue, I'm voting for Swarm vs Plethador, err tafkaga (just kidding Gordon)

[LWPD]

butters said:

This is an awesome battle of who will get the last word. I think I might go to Off-Topic Polls right now and post it as a poll!

For two adult age men to invest any part of a Saturday Night into early Sunday Morning 'battling' on a website dedicated to a pro wres card game makes me feel sorry for both of them. That there was 'nothing else better to do' speaks for itself.

[Darth Turkish]

tafkaga said:

turkish said:

I also find it funny that this issue, which was supposed to be "gone and forgotten" is quite lively and spry.

Answer this question for me. How can it be gone and forgotten when I have one person drilling it into my head every day, and friends of that person who won't let it die either? Do you understand how futile it is to try to get past something when there are a hand full of people who keep dragging it out?

This thread just drags it out. I know that Hawk meant well, but he wrote it out of irritation with Swarm and I. It just gave Swarm another excuse to flame and then blame me for it. If people are really really irritated with me I would INVITE YOU to report me to Chris and get me banned. I really don't care because I have other things in life beyond this. But as long as I'm a customer of Filsinger games, a faithful promoter, and a fan of COTG... I'm going to post here. No one is going to run me off this board. No one.

First, let me say I have no problem with either you or Swarm or anyone else involved in this situation (or anyone on the board for that matter). We all have an equal right to be here and post here, be part of the CotG fraternity, blah, blah, blah.

That being said , this is an internet message board. It allows people to express thoughts, opinions, and experiences from all over the world. Sometimes, a poster will use this medium of faceless interaction to write something false, mean or derogatory.

Let me restate, then, that this is an internet message board. In a way, a figment of our imagination. Hopefully, this is simply one of the myriad of personal interactions you have each day. As there is no actual harm that can occur on an internet message board that could cause you or your loved ones health threats, physical harm or monetary loss from mere words. Someone crapping in your oatmeal here should not ruin your whole day.

I do not want you (or Swarm) run off or banned. As was stated earlier, these threads provide much amusement. As I see it, Swarm's posts directed at you are filled with a Loki- like fun- not overly conducive to a fraternity. Your responses however, are full of anger and frustration.

And this anger and frustration is noted.

And preyed upon.

Tafkaga, I would like you to do one thing: remove yourself for one moment and look at the length and quality of your responses to the situation. Very well thought out, very verbose. You practically write a five paragraph essay each time a jab is written, trying to assert your point. You perpetuate this issue more than you are willing to give yourself credit for. An ounce of gasoline is tossed at you, and you blaze wildly out of control, raging.

I can respect your stance to "stand up to bullies" but in this setting of anonymous communication and ITGs, it is kind of moot. Remember you control to how and to whom you respond. No one coerces you to reply a certain way, if at all, to the negativity .

I join the previous voices in saying to just ignore it. Grin and bear it. March or die.

[Knapik]

"I found out where you worked and sent them in to report you for harrassment."

what... the...? Am I the only person bothered by this?

LWPD - did you spend any part of Saturday or Sunday making that nifty new icon?

[swarm]

knapik said:

"I found out where you worked and sent them in to report you for harrassment."

what... the...? Am I the only person bothered by this?

LWPD - did you spend any part of Saturday or Sunday making that nifty new icon?

that brings up a good point...

While his new logo is indeed very cool (I'll admit, I like it very much), it can now be used in the current vote for the best avatar thread (if it could I would vote for it...) ...

since LWPD has retired his flaming rainbow back to the closet, I say his new cool blue star trek avatar is now eligible for vote.

edit: is this something you design yourself or is there a website or something? either way, very cool. way better than your last few...