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Post by SherriFan on Nov 18, 2007 0:41:54 GMT -5
I had a bunch of things that I originally said, but I edited it instead, deciding to take the high road - I refuse to argue with people in which I have common interests, not to mention have helped me out with a lot of things since I've been here (Knapik). Too many people here don't want thoughts and opinions, they want to be right. I like TNA, I don't like John Cena. I have my reasons for both, and they're perfectly valid and respectable to anyone who takes them as more than just words on a computer monitor. I'm done expressing my opinions here, so please don't force yours on me. In the end, I'll simply leave you with this...
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Post by gatekeeper on Nov 18, 2007 1:29:34 GMT -5
Sherrifan, Khali actually HAS gotten down on the ground and covered opponents. Again, you're missing the whole point of his character. He's the biggest wrestler in the business. Probably the most ripped big man ever. His thing is, he beats (most) guys so bad, a foot on the chest is good enough. It's one way to build monster heels up. I agree that HHH and HBK are boring but the WWE has so many of its main guys injured, they have to fill in. Mark Henry does suck. To be honest, I'm surprised he's not in TNA by now. Name me anyone in TNA who "tells the story." The only wrestlers that phrase has commonly been associated with are Bret Hart, Ric Flair and Dusty Rhodes. A punjabi prison match with big name stars like Batista, Undertaker (who I don't really care for), and Khali is WAY more interesting than a Ultimate X match for the TNA tag - team titles with The Dudleys. I really don't see how you can care about Christian or Kurt Angle having the TNA title when the booking is horrible and during many of the interviews/promos, they talk about (or at least make some vague reference to) the WWE. Seeing Booker T win the TNA belt would be like Brett Favre winning the Grey Cup in the CFL. Nobody cares about it. Of course you wouldn't like John Cena. You like TNA. That says it all.
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Post by wildcat on Nov 18, 2007 11:52:25 GMT -5
Unbelievable............. WWE rules ! Vince is God ! TNA sucks................ I wish sarcasm would come out better on line. WWE is the NOT the be all end all of wrestling, there are alternatives and wrestlings better for it. I'll watch ROH above anything else. Also the great Kah - onkey > than the entire TNA? Payback, Payback, Payback dude you gotta layoff the koolaid.
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Post by Big Bri on Nov 18, 2007 12:55:59 GMT -5
But their overall talent pool is probably stronger than WWE right now If a super fat chick is one of the best in your stable, it's bad news. I dig Awesome Kong, for the same reasons Aquinas states below. The 'super fat chick' can wrestle. If my time is going to be wasted by women's wrestling, I want them to at least be capable. There are plenty of places to see hot chicks. Watching them bumble around awkwardly in a wrestling ring isn't one of them. Exactly. Too many (but not all) WWE women look like they’re walking on eggshells in the ring; like they’re trying not to break a nail. It’s tough to watch and I feel jipped as a fan because they’re not going all-out. I used to hate Candace for this very reason, but now that she’s broken her nose, and now her collar bone, hey, she’s got my respect! Regardless, it's rather asinine for any of us (myself included) to get on here and argue about this stuff. That would be just as silly as someone who loves LoW going into the CotG thread and saying, "CotG sux! None of their wrestlers are real! And wrestling aliens and robots is just stupid!" That wouldn't go over with CotG fans very well, would it? Have a little respect for what fans (in a TNA thread, no less) think of the promotion. Many of us like them both, and for different reasons - just like real world wrestling. Amen to this.
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Post by gatekeeper on Nov 18, 2007 15:42:54 GMT -5
Unbelievable............. WWE rules ! Vince is God ! TNA sucks................ I wish sarcasm would come out better on line. WWE is the NOT the be all end all of wrestling, there are alternatives and wrestlings better for it. I'll watch ROH above anything else. Also the great Kah - onkey > than the entire TNA? Payback, Payback, Payback dude you gotta layoff the koolaid. Huh? KB you have to stop liking things that suck.
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Post by Vidtek on Nov 18, 2007 16:19:06 GMT -5
(Holds blank sealed envelope to forehead) Black Holes...Dirt Devils....and sometimes TNA wrestling (opens envelope) Name three things you like that suck.
I don't drink the E's Kool-Aid, but I'm not an uber-Vince hater. Not everything the WWE does is gold. And occasionally TNA does something right. Neither of those things happen often, but they can. I will sometimes watch TNA if I have nothing to do on Saturday nights (which is rare, and I don't watch it on Thursday) but for the most part I do think it sucks. Doesn't mean I don't like it.
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Post by gatekeeper on Nov 18, 2007 17:04:26 GMT -5
Well said Vidtek. (except for the last sentence ;D)
Here's how you know that everyone in the WWE is better than the entire TNA roster:
Ron Killings - former NWA/TNA champ after being in WWE
Jeff Jarrett - former NWA/TNA champ after being in WWE
Christian - former NWA/TNA champ after being in WWE
Kurt Angle - former NWA/TNA champ after being in WWE
Dudleys - TNA tag champs after successful stint in WWE
Steiners - main event tag - team after successful stint in WWE/WCW
Booker T - gets a main event at a PPV even though his TNA record is 0-0.
Almost everyone that comes over from WWE gets put right into the main event.
If Khali came to TNA, he'd win the belt the 1st day he was there, and rightfully so because he'd be better than anyone else they'd have.
TNA tells you that the WWE is better by the way they book the castoffs and how they bury and push down the homegrown guys down the ladder.
I really don't see how you could argue otherwise.
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Post by BDS on Nov 18, 2007 18:04:44 GMT -5
In a way, I feel bad for starting this thread. I got the info I was looking for, though, so I don't feel too bad about it. Have fun continuing to argue! ;D
Oh, and Khali sucks. Any wrestler that could be replaced by a cardboard cut-out sucks.
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Post by Vidtek on Nov 18, 2007 18:15:52 GMT -5
A cardboard cut-out can't do that huge brain chop that can flatten The Undertaker but barely puts The Coach on his butt....
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Post by dukedave on Nov 18, 2007 18:19:23 GMT -5
In a way, I feel bad for starting this thread. I got the info I was looking for, though, so I don't feel too bad about it. Have fun continuing to argue! ;D Oh, and Khali sucks. Any wrestler that could be replaced by a cardboard cut-out sucks. Don't feel bad. Any thread that allows Payback to bust out his condescension is a worthy thread.
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Post by gatekeeper on Nov 18, 2007 18:36:15 GMT -5
In a way, I feel bad for starting this thread. I got the info I was looking for, though, so I don't feel too bad about it. Have fun continuing to argue! ;D Oh, and Khali sucks. Any wrestler that could be replaced by a cardboard cut-out sucks. Don't feel bad. Any thread that allows Payback to bust out his condescension is a worthy thread. It's not being condescending. It's the truth. If you don't like it, don't respond to my posts. Some people like crap. When they say stuff like ROH is the best wrestling or TNA is better than WWE, I'm just pointing out that they obviously like crap. I posted my reasons. My arguments have a point. How come it's not condescending to say WWE sucks or Khali sucks, but it is when I say TNA and ROH sucks? My arguments actually make sense and are right. Can't help it if I'm right. If you wanna like crap, fine. Just don't come on a discussion board and make ridiculous statements like that.
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Post by dukedave on Nov 18, 2007 18:43:03 GMT -5
You're entitled to your opinion but opinions are like a$$holes, everyone's got one. But the necessessity to belittle others opinions is what gets a little tiresome.
BTW - Most of your reply reeked of condescension. Good job, at least you're consistent.
It's not saying this sucks or that sucks that is condescending. It is your holier than though my opinion is more important than yours attitude that leads to your condescending statements.
The funny thing is that I agree with a good amount of your opinions.
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Post by gatekeeper on Nov 18, 2007 18:49:00 GMT -5
You're entitled to your opinion but opinions are like a$$holes, everyone's got one. But the necessessity to belittle others opinions is what gets a little tiresome. BTW - Most of your reply reeked of condescension. Good job, at least you're consistent. It's not saying this sucks or that sucks that is condescending. It is your holier than though my opinion is more important than yours attitude that leads to your condescending statements. Again, you totally misinterpret everything I post so, you should stop replying to my posts. Not all opinions are equal. They aren't. Some are more valid than others. Some are just wrong. Hitler's opinion was that all Jewish people should be killed. That's wrong. I said TNA sucks because..........then I listed a bunch of reasons. How is that condescending? Now, you're just looking to stir things up. That's the basic definition of trolling. I think you have a holier than thou attitude.
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Post by SherriFan on Nov 18, 2007 19:02:01 GMT -5
You're entitled to your opinion but opinions are like a$$holes, everyone's got one. But the necessessity to belittle others opinions is what gets a little tiresome. BTW - Most of your reply reeked of condescension. Good job, at least you're consistent. It's not saying this sucks or that sucks that is condescending. It is your holier than though my opinion is more important than yours attitude that leads to your condescending statements. Again, you totally misinterpret everything I post so, you should stop replying to my posts. Not all opinions are equal. They aren't. Some are more valid than others. Some are just wrong. Hitler's opinion was that all Jewish people should be killed. That's wrong. I said TNA sucks because..........then I listed a bunch of reasons. How is that condescending? Now, you're just looking to stir things up. That's the basic definition of trolling. I think you have a holier than thou attitude. Let's get one thing straight: The person coming to the TNA forum to discuss how bad TNA "sucks" is the only legitimate troll I see around here. I silently took your side during the whole "Chris Masters Injured" thread, but now I've had just about enough of you. People like you are like watching a Great Khali match - you take all the fun out of anything you're involved with. So, either grow up or go back underneath your bridge - because all you've accomplished here is exposing yourself to be the true waste of words I'm now quite certain you assuredly are. It's nice that you have your opinions, but to come here and continuously berate people for what they like only places your maturity level in question. So, do us all a favor and take your incompetent belligerence somewhere else, because anyone who causes more misery than they do joy is completely worthless. "If you don't like what I say, don't respond to my posts." Well now there's some logic. Why don't you follow your own advice and do everyone a favor by not responding to any posts, EVER? But, nothing anyone ever says to you will cause you to asses yourself and see what everyone else sees, because if you did, a light bulb would appear atop your head as you simultaneously uttered, "Wow, I'm a jackass!" So grow up and stop being an annoying, petulent little child.
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Post by gatekeeper on Nov 18, 2007 19:11:24 GMT -5
Easy there Sherrifan.
Havoc has a history with me as you know. That comment about not responding to my post was not directed at you or anyone other than him.
This is a discussion board. We discuss things. This isn't a love fest board.
If you want everyone to say how great TNA is, this is the wrong place.
Look at my earlier post about the WWE/WCW castoffs. That's pretty solid evidence to support my theory of TNA.
All the WWE guys they sign go right to the main event.
Your braggart comments and veiled threats don't frighten me. Name-calling doesn't show how awesome you are. It works to show the opposite. Calling me a jackass and a little child is not what this discussion board is for.
This is from the Code of Conduct in the rules section: 8) No personal attacks; Name calling, insults or other comments that are demeaning in nature to another poster in any way will not be tolerated.
This thread is not about me. Now please respond to how TNA is great because I've never seen anything out of that fed that I would consider even close to that.
I watch TNA because I'd like to see it be good. Back in the 80s I watched both the WWF and NWA/WCW.
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Post by dukedave on Nov 18, 2007 19:18:30 GMT -5
Your braggart comments and veiled threats don't frighten me. Name-calling doesn't show how awesome you are. It works to show the opposite. Calling me a jackass and a little child is not what this discussion board is for. This is from the Code of Conduct in the rules section: 8) No personal attacks; Name calling, insults or other comments that are demeaning in nature to another poster in any way will not be tolerated. This from the guy who has thrown out veiled threats for people to come to Galacticon to see how tough they really are face to face.
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Post by gatekeeper on Nov 18, 2007 19:21:21 GMT -5
Your braggart comments and veiled threats don't frighten me. Name-calling doesn't show how awesome you are. It works to show the opposite. Calling me a jackass and a little child is not what this discussion board is for. This is from the Code of Conduct in the rules section: 8) No personal attacks; Name calling, insults or other comments that are demeaning in nature to another poster in any way will not be tolerated. This from the guy who has thrown out veiled threats for people to come to Galacticon to see how tough they really are face to face. Right. After I got called names for about 5 pages in a thread. You just don't get it Havoc. Never have. Never will. You have selective memory. Stop worrying so much about what I post.
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Post by SherriFan on Nov 18, 2007 19:50:11 GMT -5
Easy there Sherrifan. Havoc has a history with me as you know. That comment about not responding to my post was not directed at you or anyone other than him. This is a discussion board. We discuss things. This isn't a love fest board. If you bothered to read any of my other posts, you might have noticed that several times I've stated that I didn't think TNA was perfect and that I liked both WWE and TNA, but for different reasons. Unfortunately, you'd rather worry more about getting to your next post and having the final word than actually reading and processing the information someone else already posted. Very well, then. ROH > WWE because that ROH castoff, CM Punk came directly to WWE and soon won the ECW title. That's logical, right? Even the guys on CSI couldn't argue with that evidence. Veiled threats... I don't remember issuing any of those. However, if you'd like to copy and paste my previous post and send it to Chris Ingersoll, I'm sure he'll come directly over, read the thread, then just agree with me anyway. And for the record: I don't have to produce a list of reasons as to why I like TNA just for your benefit. In the real world, you're the type of person I don't waste my time responding to, you just get a little "pfft" noise as I go about my merry business. In truth, you've already proven to me just how little I value your opinions and that if there were a little "ignore" button beside your name, everyone else would be much better off because we wouldn't have to read any of your posts. I don't want you to leave the forum, of course, because I wouldn't wish that on anyone (and I enjoy reading your card results) -- I'd just really prefer that everyone get along a little better instead of constantly harassing one another. But, I'm finished with this little game with you. Go find someone else to play. In the future, I'll just respond to other people's posts and pretend yours aren't there. I'm pretty sure that's what most people here do anyway.
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Post by BDS on Nov 18, 2007 21:27:56 GMT -5
My thread can only end in tragedy.
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Post by Aquinas on Nov 18, 2007 21:41:10 GMT -5
My thread can only end in tragedy. Well hopefully you got the answer to your question at least. I think the general consensus is that, yes, it's worth you checking out. No harm at all. Unless you think Vince is God and all non-Vince wrestling automatically sucks
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