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Post by Pete on Aug 13, 2007 16:46:22 GMT -5
It's not so much "all clean finishes" as it is they need to something that REALLY sets them apart from the WWE, instead of superficial stuff like the X-Division and a 6-sided ring.
They seriously do need a moratorium on massive screwjobs in main events. Like, a six-month break.
I could start another multi-paragraph rant on how Russo hasn't evolved one iota as a booker and hasn't cooked up an original idea since 1998, but I think everyone here knows the story there, so I won't. Russo's problem is that he took the reigns as WWF booker at a time when literally almost the entire roster was a.) jumping to WCW or b.) injured. He *had* to book "crash TV" with an emphasis on angles over matches because his on-air talent was utterly decimated. Having achieved success with that, he has no clue how to book with a (mostly) healthy and active roster.
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Post by BDS on Aug 13, 2007 16:47:07 GMT -5
Also, BDS, I don't think booking 2 guys for all your titles in any company would be a good idea. I think it can work as a short-term kind of thing. Obviously, if you do that, you've got to take one or more belts off of the winner soon - strip one of them, have him lose one because of the pressure of holding all of the gold, something like that. As a vehicle to get one guy over, though, I think it can work in the very short term. The E did something similar with the Two-Man Power Trip, and it worked. Well, except that it involved one of the best wrestlers ever (and Triple H). And that there were two guys instead of just one. Alright, so maybe it was nothing at all like it, but I still stand by the idea being one that's good in theory, as long as they'd have put the belts on Joe and not Angle. Angle doesn't really need to get over any more than he already is - Joe does. they should find their niche of fans and push theyoung guys. Kind of like what Paul Heyman did. Or like what Gabe Sapolsky currently does.  |
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Post by Pete on Aug 13, 2007 16:51:25 GMT -5
On a more hilarious note comes this bulletin from PWInsider:
"TNA has also signed a deal with the band Bro-Kin to use their music on TNA programming. Bro-Kin is the former DX band that World Wrestling Entertainment used a number of times in the past. Thanks to Dan for his help!"
I'm seriously LOLing at this...the frigging DX band??! I fully expect them to win the soon-to-be-vacant tag titles and then feud with Team 3D for the next year.
(Who will be the next ex-WWE legend to make the jump? Mel Phillips? Barry Didinski? Todd Pettingill? Vladimir the superfan? Hell, Craig DeGeorge isn't too far away, doing Marlins TV...)
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Post by JED-SE on Aug 13, 2007 16:52:31 GMT -5
As I mentioned before...we'll just have to see what happens... No you don't. I'll tell you what'll happen. TNA will continue to have sucky PPVs and weekly shows while pushing the WWE dinosaurs over their home-grown younger guys who could actually help make the company interesting to watch. Most likely you are correct. You're being a realist, and I'm just trying to be an optimist (Perhaps a Cockeyed optimist). If only Heyman were available. |
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Post by Pete on Aug 13, 2007 16:54:08 GMT -5
Heyman probably has gone longer than Russo when it comes to creative bankruptcy.
Whoever the Next Great Booking Savior is, I'd bet my life savings it's someone who hasn't been a lead booker before.
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Post by Wildfire on Aug 13, 2007 17:02:18 GMT -5
I disagree with Pete on that one.. I think the 6 sided ring and the X -Division COULD differentiate TNA if used and booked properly...
take Monty Brown's Pounce... if someone in TNA sold it as well as Sabu was selling it, in the 6 sided ring it would have been unbelievable. I think there are some innovative things they can do, they just need to stop making the X-Division a running comedy skit and let these guys do their thing. I few of them at least (Daniels and Shelley for sure) are good on the stick as well as good in the ring, so its not totally unreasonable that it could work, IMO.
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Post by BDS on Aug 13, 2007 17:21:38 GMT -5
There's no reason that the X-Division can't mean just as much in that promotion as the heavyweight division does. There was a time in TNA, and this was when the company was at it's best, in my opinion, when you could have an X-Division title match, a tag team title match, or a heavyweight title match main eventing the PPV, because each of the belts meant something. That's been lost from TNA, much to the promotion's detriment.
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Post by Swarm on Aug 13, 2007 17:24:52 GMT -5
I hope Angle gets injured and totally screws over the whole company and shows Russo that putting every belt on 1 guy is totally retarded. Nice thinking, hoping someone gets injured. Everyone knows Russo has crappy booking, but to hope Angle gets injured? I know (hope) you are being facetious and are just hoping for the worse since you hate Russo and TNA. My neighbor has two rabbits. |
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Post by Knapik on Aug 13, 2007 17:42:56 GMT -5
A big problem with last night (that I dont think anyone mentioned) was that the new IWGP title was on the line... and there was no way Joe could win it. So there was no way Joe could win the match, period.
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Post by Pete on Aug 13, 2007 17:51:57 GMT -5
A big problem with last night (that I dont think anyone mentioned) was that the new IWGP title was on the line... and there was no way Joe could win it. So there was no way Joe could win the match, period. An IWGP belt was on the line, but I think it's a stretch to call that thing the "title." |
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Post by Knapik on Aug 13, 2007 17:53:21 GMT -5
A big problem with last night (that I dont think anyone mentioned) was that the new IWGP title was on the line... and there was no way Joe could win it. So there was no way Joe could win the match, period. An IWGP belt was on the line, but I think it's a stretch to call that thing the "title." Oh, I know what's up with it! I'm saying there was no way whatever you want to call it was changing hands. |
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Post by gatekeeper on Aug 13, 2007 19:10:55 GMT -5
On a more hilarious note comes this bulletin from PWInsider: "TNA has also signed a deal with the band Bro-Kin to use their music on TNA programming. Bro-Kin is the former DX band that World Wrestling Entertainment used a number of times in the past. Thanks to Dan for his help!"I thought they were called the Chris Warren Band. They must've changed it. There's one more ridiculous thing TNA is trying to re-hash something that worked for WWE. Lame |
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Post by PureHatred on Aug 13, 2007 22:21:37 GMT -5
I'd just like to chime in and say that I don't actually have a problem with Angle winning.
Probably a lot easier to sell Angle/Abyss than Joe/Christian or summat (although Joe/AJ could've been sick).
But the ending is what really ruined it. After that craptacular build-up, the match itself could've been saved with one of those "Joe-loses-because-he-passes-out-in-the-Ankle-Lock" endings, or Angle has to deliverchair shot after chair shot (the X17 ending) to get the pin...seriously just ANYTHING so that the obvious swerve doesn't make Joe look like such an obvious chump.
Ah well.....maybe we're all worng and this will do 35 k buys. But I doubt it.
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Post by Shon Maxx on Aug 14, 2007 7:43:19 GMT -5
The multiple chairshots would work well. It'd allow Angle to have the belt(s) while making Joe looking superhuman (that's the point, right?).
As for giving one guy all the belts, the only reason I can fathom for doing so is to vacate most of the titles, run a bunch of tournaments, and crown some brand new champions. That could shake up the roster and create some new feuds and storylines.
Take care,
Jay
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Post by Chris Ingersoll on Aug 14, 2007 8:01:39 GMT -5
On a more hilarious note comes this bulletin from PWInsider: "TNA has also signed a deal with the band Bro-Kin to use their music on TNA programming. Bro-Kin is the former DX band that World Wrestling Entertainment used a number of times in the past. Thanks to Dan for his help!"I thought they were called the Chris Warren Band. They must've changed it. Weren't they "Connecticut Yankee" or something like that originally? |
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Post by BDS on Aug 14, 2007 8:02:47 GMT -5
I thought they were called the Chris Warren Band. They must've changed it. Weren't they "Connecticut Yankee" or something like that originally? I remember Connecticut Yankee as a name for them. |
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Post by JED-SE on Aug 14, 2007 9:33:03 GMT -5
They've changed names like the Mad Jesters did!
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