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Post by swarm on Nov 21, 2006 11:01:25 GMT -5
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Post by gatekeeper on Nov 21, 2006 13:35:15 GMT -5
Well, on the Hulk Hogan Anthology DVD, Hulk said he was watching WWE and said to his son, "HHH is the best in the business, I gotta work with him."
Now I know the Hogan haters will say that's just Hogan's opinion and he doesn't know anything because he was a terrible worker. Whatever.
If Hulk Hogan says you're the best in the business, that's good enough for me.
HHH = the man
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Post by BDS on Nov 21, 2006 14:24:46 GMT -5
That's just Hogan's opinion and he doesn't know anything because he was a terrible worker.
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Post by swarm on Nov 21, 2006 14:34:54 GMT -5
I disagree. Hulk Hogan pinky toe knows more about wrestling than this whole board combined. If Hogan says HHH is the best, he's the best.
Hogan opinion > BDS opinion
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Post by PureHatred on Nov 21, 2006 14:38:51 GMT -5
Here's the funny thing:
I clearly like Triple H's work. Surprised no one mentioned Trips/HBK/Benoit at WM as an example of his post-quad goodness.
I think Hogan is an incredibly underrated worker. Forget his moveset, he could get any crowd any where, eating out of his hands.
But I'm honestly not sure about Hogan as a judge of talent. The guy did once convince Vince to bring Tugboat in saying he'd be a big star and he reportedly was the one who convinced WCW to bring back both Zeus and Ulitmate Warrior for programs.
So there you go.
Still a fan of Trips, though.
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Post by gatekeeper on Nov 21, 2006 14:47:47 GMT -5
I disagree. Hulk Hogan pinky toe knows more about wrestling than this whole board combined. If Hogan says HHH is the best, he's the best. Hogan opinion > BDS opinion I think BDS was being sarcastic as he quoted me word for word what the Hogan haters would say. |
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Post by swarm on Nov 21, 2006 14:49:19 GMT -5
yes but he also brought in The Giant aka Big Show so...
I would imagine he wanted Zeus and UW to do programs with him, maybe could have been good if WCW wasn't being run by a bunch of monkeys at the time...hard to say.
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Post by swarm on Nov 21, 2006 14:49:45 GMT -5
I disagree. Hulk Hogan pinky toe knows more about wrestling than this whole board combined. If Hogan says HHH is the best, he's the best. Hogan opinion > BDS opinion I think BDS was being sarcastic as he quoted me word for word what the Hogan haters would say. ah maybe you are correct. if so, I retract my post. |
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Post by Splattercat on Nov 21, 2006 14:50:48 GMT -5
PH beat me to it...Although, after his WCW run, Hogan didn't really have a choice in the matter of having a crowd eating out of his hand...They just did....And they always led his promos with 5 minutes of cheers...Hogan wasn't just popular or talented at that point....That man had Power...He was Darth Hogan... But I digress..  |
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Post by behindthebook on Nov 21, 2006 14:51:06 GMT -5
it's the keeping the fans happy is what generates the moolah. ;D I must respectively disagree. The key to continuing generating the "moolah", is to keep the people wanting more. It's about teasing the fans, manipulating them on a very basic emotional level. Never let them become truly satisfied, never let them become too jaded, and always keep them coming back for more. Now. . . Where’s that other thing. . . I disagree. HHH was having big time feel matches with The Rock when DX feuded with The Nation. Obviously, “big time feel matches” would fall under LWPD’s “aesthetics”, but I have to disagree. The feud between DX and the Nation had a “big time” feel to it, but the matches between Triple H and The Rock over the IC title did not, at least not anymore so then the European title matches between X-Pac and Owen did. The feud was a collaborative effort and a collaborative success; and that success was based mostly on a hand full of entertaining promos and the clever use of props, costumes, and a very funny Owen impression by Jason Sensation. I personally would say that it wasn’t until the feud with Kane and the double turn at Wrestlemania 15 that Triple H really achieved a “big time feel” match. |
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Post by Highway61Revisited on Nov 21, 2006 15:20:56 GMT -5
yes but he also brought in The Giant aka Big Show so... I would imagine he wanted Zeus and UW to do programs with him, maybe could have been good if WCW wasn't being run by a bunch of monkeys at the time...hard to say. It's pretty disingenuous to say that Zeus or UW could have drawn money in '96 or '98. Neither wrestler was never a draw nor would they ever be. Hogan hade an almost Lawleresque want to face ridiculous opponents. He also brought in the Renegade. |
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Post by blueraider2 on Nov 21, 2006 15:41:14 GMT -5
who was a uw ripoff in my opinion.
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Post by swarm on Nov 21, 2006 15:42:22 GMT -5
yes but he also brought in The Giant aka Big Show so... I would imagine he wanted Zeus and UW to do programs with him, maybe could have been good if WCW wasn't being run by a bunch of monkeys at the time...hard to say. It's pretty disingenuous to say that Zeus or UW could have drawn money in '96 or '98. Neither wrestler was never a draw nor would they ever be. Hogan hade an almost Lawleresque want to face ridiculous opponents. He also brought in the Renegade. I agree. But Hogan is Hogan. You could put Tommy Brownell in the ring with him and it would sell out. I just think Hogan was trying to be a nice guy and get his friends jobs... but yeah, those guys weren't anything to write home about... I still think WCW could have made a good profit from a Hogan-Warrior rematch if they had done it right...at the time, everyone wanted to see it. But they blew it. |
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Post by GOODZILLA on Nov 21, 2006 16:06:22 GMT -5
I would imagine he wanted Zeus and UW to do programs with him, maybe could have been good if WCW wasn't being run by a bunch of monkeys at the time...hard to say. It's pretty disingenuous to say that Zeus or UW could have drawn money in '96 or '98. Neither wrestler was never a draw nor would they ever be. Hogan hade an almost Lawleresque want to face ridiculous opponents. Good point HW61R. Warrior proved that he could not put asses in the seats in his first WWF run. He was over, no doubt about that, but he wasn't able to be "the guy." I am sure he made the WWF a lot of money though as his merchandise sales must have been astronomical. And his program with Hogan stands out as one of the most memorable matches of my childhood. Zues had no business being in a WWF ring the first time around and I am still shocked that WCW tried to bring him back. |
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Post by BDS on Nov 21, 2006 16:26:10 GMT -5
I think BDS was being sarcastic as he quoted me word for word what the Hogan haters would say. ah maybe you are correct. if so, I retract my post. For clarification ... 1.) Hulk Hogan probably forgot more about the wrestling business the last time he took a good, healthy crap than I'll ever know. 2.) I'd still rather watch a Bryan Danielson match than a Hulk Hogan match, considering that I haven't really enjoyed a Hogan match since the age of 9 or so. That was when I started wondering why I realized exactly what Hogan was going to do, but his startled opponent always seemed to have no idea that Hogan was going to do the same exact thing he did in his last match. And the match before that one. And the match before that one. Hogan basically told me that wrestling wasn't real, and I despise him for that. Now that everything's cleared up, I'm going to get back to work. I've got to get everything finished in the office/bedroom so I can get busy on organizing all of my ROH DVD's alphabetically and finding out how much that new Lego Star Destroyer is. |
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Post by swarm on Nov 21, 2006 16:36:30 GMT -5
Hogan vs. The Rock was on of the greatest matches I ever saw.
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Post by Tournament Master on Nov 21, 2006 16:48:46 GMT -5
finding out how much that new Lego Star Destroyer is. $100 for the standard Star Destroyer and $300 for the collectors version. I personally would rather have the Jabba the Hutt's sail barge. I am a Jabba mark however. Oh crap, I've just been outted as a big dork!!! Whats that you say? Everyone already knew that. Oh good.  |
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Post by PureHatred on Nov 21, 2006 17:09:48 GMT -5
I still think WCW could have made a good profit from a Hogan-Warrior rematch if they had done it right...at the time, everyone wanted to see it. But they blew it. I agree and to be totally fair that had a lot do with the condition UW was in. The crappy storyline hurt, but it definitely didn't help that UW was totally out of shape, bombed out on pain medication, and refused to sell for anyone. |
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Post by swarm on Nov 21, 2006 17:11:46 GMT -5
didn't he almost kill Davey Boy Smith or something when he back-dropped him onto a trap door or something?
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Post by blueraider2 on Nov 21, 2006 17:14:30 GMT -5
no i think davey boy got a back injury from it.
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