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Post by swarm on Oct 29, 2006 11:33:03 GMT -5
And to come to Russo's defense, this is the first thing he's done with the book that's been vaguely like his old booking style. He dropped the Jackass stuff, he's depushed Jarrett, and he's done a pretty good job with iMPACT! in turning it into a solid, wrestling oriented show. I think we can excuse the clustermess. I Agree BDS... I for one think Russo will do a good job with this new run for him as a booker. I'm curious as to why, besides the fact that you are a TNA spokesperson, you think this, ...as misterrb said, all evidence points to it being another failure. Russo has done nothing to give the impression he will "do a good job with this new run as a booker." |
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Post by Splattercat on Oct 29, 2006 11:56:23 GMT -5
It could be more of a hopeful thing than anything else...Saying "I think this will work out" is a more positive thing to say than "I hope to god they don't frell this up" and if you want something to work, positive thinking works better than waiting for the end...Nothing wrong with FTi thinking it'll work out...All you can really do is say "too bad" if it doesn't...Honestly, I think it will too...if I'm wrong, aw shucks, my life doesn't change...  |
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Post by swarm on Oct 29, 2006 16:38:36 GMT -5
It could be more of a hopeful thing than anything else...Saying "I think this will work out" is a more positive thing to say than "I hope to god they don't frell this up" and if you want something to work, positive thinking works better than waiting for the end...Nothing wrong with FTi thinking it'll work out...All you can really do is say "too bad" if it doesn't...Honestly, I think it will too...if I'm wrong, aw shucks, my life doesn't change... That's mighty fine advice if your name is Dr. Phil, but this is a discussion board, and when someone with the name FEEL THE IMPACT comes on here and gets wet about absolutely everything TNA does including hiring a proven failed booker, I want to know why. so again, not looking for beat-around the bush happy days and Lolly-pop answers...I want to know why FTi thinks Vince Russo will be a success as a booker this time around when all signs point to it/him being a total and complete failure. It's a fair question. |
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Post by fti on Oct 29, 2006 16:41:27 GMT -5
Good point Swarm, but you have to have faith at one point or another... and if you disagree that is your right, it is a simple answer, I have faith that Dixie Carter trusts Russo and she will be keeping her eye on him.
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Post by Knapik on Oct 29, 2006 16:44:40 GMT -5
jesus christ....
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Post by swarm on Oct 29, 2006 16:44:51 GMT -5
Good point Swarm, but you have to have faith at one point or another... and if you disagree that is your right, it is a simple answer, I have faith that Dixie Carter trusts Russo and she will be keeping her eye on him. That's it? Faith? You have faith that Russo will be a success in booking TNA when he has been nothing but terrible in every incarnation before this one? You should really become a LIons fan. You'd fit right in around here. |
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Post by PureHatred on Oct 29, 2006 17:04:57 GMT -5
I would love to agree. However, evidence to the contrary. Towards the end of his WWF run, he got too Russo-esque for me (titles changes every show? the Brood changing every couple of weeks?). He started off each WCW run fairly decently, but look how each imploded under his ideas. And don't even get me started on his TNA runs. The Hard-10 Tournament, anyone? As has been said THOUSANDS of times before, if Russo has someone filtering his ideas, they work out. I have not heard that anyone in TNA does this, other than Jarrett, who has had less-than-questionable booking in the past. Anyone know if there is another filter I haven't heard about? Really good post. Russo's booking has been decent for a month or so and at the very least he's put an end to all those stupid Cornette "locker-room meetings" but this is still Russo Unplugged and you sort of expect the worst. |
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Post by PureHatred on Oct 29, 2006 17:05:38 GMT -5
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Post by PureHatred on Oct 29, 2006 17:08:50 GMT -5
Good point Swarm, but you have to have faith at one point or another... and if you disagree that is your right, it is a simple answer, I have faith that Dixie Carter trusts Russo and she will be keeping her eye on him. This of course being the same Dixie Carter who has built her company around Jeff Jarrett. |
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Post by BDS on Oct 29, 2006 17:15:54 GMT -5
Dixie still really doesn't know wrestling yet - hence Jeff Jarrett dominating the promotion for years - so she's not going to be an effective check to Russo's power. At this point, there's no reason to believe Russo will do a good job other than what he's done so far.
If you think it's all smoke and mirrors and he'll go back to being old Russo again, then you think he's going to bomb. If you think (or hope) that he really does have a different booking philosophy because of the evidence presented so far in what he's booked, then you think TNA's turning the corner. That's it, that's the list.
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Post by ewt on Oct 29, 2006 17:16:55 GMT -5
As far as Russo goes, and someone made a GREAT point about it, needs to go and bring in someone who has never been in wrestling that has good story writing ideas. Perhaps from the world of comics, Bendis anyone, where they have to come up with original ideas every all the time. I have said before the guys in TNA are fun to watch for the most part but the story is BAD! Try something new before it'stoo late Dixie. Then maybe VKM will have to up his game and we as wrestling fans can be happy again.
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Post by thefamoustommyz on Oct 29, 2006 18:59:15 GMT -5
One can sum up the Fight for the Right in one word: RUSSO. Let's see, we had: -18 guys "fighting" to get IN the ring; -a beatdown by LAX on AMW to follow up the earlier beatdown on LAX by AMW; -some situation between 3D and Shane Douglas that came straight out of left field; -Brother Runt and Eric Young basically playing the same character on either side of the ring; -Lance Hoyt and Robert Roode set up as stronger contenders than Styles/Daniels; -another Cage-Rhino brawl; -and a set-up for (wait for it, wait for it)...ANOTHER Abyss title shot. How does one spell "overbooked"? Anyone else feel like Russo has been handed a goldmine in Angle-Joe and has already dreamed up about 5 ways to screw it all up? Just a few points...not saying you're entirely off base, because I hated the reverse battle royal concept, too... 1) AMW attacked LAX, and LAX attacked them back. That's classic pro wrestling. I'm really not sure what you're complaining about there. 2) The Team 3D/Shane Douglas issue was first brought up last week on Impact, and was probably thrown in because it's something they're planning on using (Naturals vs Team 3D, maybe?), and they didn't want to let it just completely drop this week. 3) Runt and Young are both scrappy underdogs...they played their roles. 4) Admittedly, Hoyt's been a JTTS the last year or so, but Russo's back and has a track record of pushing young talent, so maybe this is an attempt to build him back up. As for Roode...um....they have been running promo packages for the last two months trying to establish him as a credible heavyweight. Performing well here is, shockingly, the next logical step in that. As for AJ/Daniels, battle royals historically favor larger wrestlers...again, classic pro wrestling booking. 5) Rhino, still angry at Cage, cost him the match. Once more, classic pro wrestling booking...I don't see the complaint. Would you have preferred Rhino run in and help Christian win in a swerve, proclaiming that Christian "knocked some sense into him" at Bound for Glory? 6) While I admit that Abyss is the most likely winner of the title shot, he hasn't won it yet... Overbooked? Sure...but then, the alternative is a battle royal in which the whole thing is 19 guys putting one guy over. Someone in TNA made an attempt to carry on some storylines and push a few guys...it's not like they had Nash come in, clean house, and eliminate everyone. Everybody in the tournament now is homegrown talent...and Daniels, I think, is the oldest guy in the thing...isn't something like that what TNA detractors have been saying TNA's needed to do all along? |
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Post by misterb on Oct 30, 2006 1:06:00 GMT -5
I've got no problem with most of your points. However, the problem I have is this: take out the AMW attack on LAX, and it all happened within 5-7 minutes of the same match. THAT'S classic Russo overkill. Angles every 5 seconds. Numb everyone's brain by doing something every 5 seconds because of "short attention spans".
I would have enjoyed each angle they ran, and agreed with every single one of your points, if they had been spread out over an entire Impact taping rather than all in a short span.
AMW attacks LAX - LAX attacks them in the locker room later.
3D confronts Shane while he berates the Naturals for losing their tag title shot...in an interview after the match.
Roode going over upper midcard talent.
Runt and Young doing their shtick in separate matches, maybe one character each episode.
Having some sort of battle royal concept, and have Rhino screw Cage by costing him the win.
All good angles and ideas, but my point was, avoid cramming them into such little time that half of them are forgotten by the average viewer before the episode is over.
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