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Post by stephenvegas on Oct 27, 2006 14:40:36 GMT -5
Actually, Edge was not one of the three wrestlers to be voted into the triple threat main event match. The three wrestlers fans could select were Shawn Michaels, Kane, and the Big Show. Instead, Edge was supposed to be in the tag team match against 2 Smackdown wrestlers chosen by the fans. But Edge got hurt right before Taboo Tuesday and had to replaced in that tag team match by Snitsky. Then what was I thinking about? I know I remember there being some sort of situation where Edge received less votes or other consideration than (probably) HBK... Was I thinking of the previous year, maybe (before he won MitB)? Yeah it was the previous Taboo Tuesday in 2004 when Edge along with Shawn Michaels and Chris Benoit was eligible to be chosen for the main event. Michaels got the most votes and according to the storyline was part of turning Edge heel because he was upset at not getting enough votes from the fans.
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Post by Chris Ingersoll on Oct 27, 2006 14:51:29 GMT -5
Ok, so I'm not going senile in my old age, at least.
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Post by gwffantrav on Oct 27, 2006 14:53:28 GMT -5
No kidding, I can't believe some of this stuff happend two years ago!! Man, and Chris, you aren't even 30 yet!
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Post by fti on Oct 27, 2006 15:56:44 GMT -5
I thought this was a excellent iMPACT! I did like the Fight to the Right Tourny, the Jeff Jarrett interview was solid too! I will give this show a close 8/10, things in my opinion are looking good for next week and the weeks to come.
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Post by Tournament Master on Oct 27, 2006 16:02:09 GMT -5
I think the double title shot situation for Edge you are referring to was when he had the money in the bank, but then beat Kane in the finals of a TV tournament (Gold Rush I believe) and got the opportunity to face Batista. This is when Lita turned on Kane and joined up with Edge. This is all more than 6 months after the Taboo Tuesday where Edge turned heel after getting screwed by the fans' vote.
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Post by PureHatred on Oct 27, 2006 16:10:34 GMT -5
Right. All these details aside, the point Payback and I were trying to make is that it was a little strange for Christian to come out, demand a title shot, and then he enters himself in that crazy batlte royal after Sting gives him one anyway.
Now, had they shown Christian so irritated by the fact that Sting refused to give him a shot until Sting "says so" (again--oddly heelish) that he DEMANDS to be in that "thing," then it would've felt alittle clearer.
Not a big thing..just a little detail. It still felt odd, though.
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Post by PureHatred on Oct 27, 2006 16:11:55 GMT -5
I thought this was a excellent iMPACT! I did like the Fight to the Right Tourny, the Jeff Jarrett interview was solid too! I will give this show a close 8/10, things in my opinion are looking good for next week and the weeks to come. i have a feeling that we could pencil you in for this kind of review of Impact for the foreseeable future. !!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by fti on Oct 27, 2006 16:14:56 GMT -5
I thought this was a excellent iMPACT! I did like the Fight to the Right Tourny, the Jeff Jarrett interview was solid too! I will give this show a close 8/10, things in my opinion are looking good for next week and the weeks to come. i have a feeling that we could pencil you in for this kind of review of Impact for the foreseeable future. !!!!!!!!!!! If the show is good I'll comment on it, and if it's poor I'll comment on what I thought was not so good. I just have a feeling right now things are going to be solid.
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Post by swarm on Oct 27, 2006 16:16:48 GMT -5
Right. All these details aside, the point Payback and I were trying to make is that it was a little strange for Christian to come out, demand a title shot, and then he enters himself in that crazy batlte royal after Sting gives him one anyway. Now, had they shown Christian so irritated by the fact that Sting refused to give him a shot until Sting "says so" (again--oddly heelish) that he DEMANDS to be in that "thing," then it would've felt alittle clearer. Not a big thing..just a little detail. It still felt odd, though. strong. as usual.
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Post by Chris Ingersoll on Oct 27, 2006 21:27:10 GMT -5
I think the double title shot situation for Edge you are referring to was when he had the money in the bank, but then beat Kane in the finals of a TV tournament (Gold Rush I believe) and got the opportunity to face Batista. This is when Lita turned on Kane and joined up with Edge. This is all more than 6 months after the Taboo Tuesday where Edge turned heel after getting screwed by the fans' vote. Right, I knew it had to be sometime between MitB and the following January where he finally cashed it in. Thanks!
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Post by Vidtek on Oct 27, 2006 23:04:04 GMT -5
OK, I just got done watching the show on my DVR... --Wow, Sting looks....weird. Are you Crow Sting or Beach Sting? Both? And what is the deal with him ducking Christian all of a sudden? I would think that he would be all over some payback action for costing him the title in the first place. --LAX...man I like these guys. -- The Naturals have all this build up just to get squashed by a team that was jumped by another team before the bell? WTH?! -- the Fight For the Right seemed less like a tournament and more like some weird hybrid thing with too many rules. A reverse battle royal followed by a standard battle royal followed by a one on one match to see who goes straight to the finals......why didn't they just draw a name out of a hopper or something? -- What's up with BG? -- Why did they keep calling Bobby Roode "Robert?" -- Ron Killings is the last in the ring and first one out...way to go "Truth." -- YOU GO HOYT! I hope he wins the whole thing! I never had a shadow of a doubt he could make it big. -- Angle hates Joe why again? If he wanted to wrestle fat samoans he could have stayed on Raw. Interesting that even as big as Angle is there was still the "Joe's gonna kill you" chants. All In all.....not a bad show. Not a great one by any stretch, but not so terrible I regreted watching it. It's not like it had some useless celebrity running around like people actually gave a crap. Big Time
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Post by Splattercat on Oct 27, 2006 23:35:17 GMT -5
Okay, this is how I interpreted the following, nothing more...I didn't write it... OK, I just got done watching the show on my DVR... --Wow, Sting looks....weird. Are you Crow Sting or Beach Sting? Both? And what is the deal with him ducking Christian all of a sudden? I would think that he would be all over some payback action for costing him the title in the first place. Sting is all about Mind games...Ever since he donned the Crow look in WCW, it's been all mind games...Ducking Christian, dangling the carrot (title shot) in front of him...Mind games... -- The Naturals have all this build up just to get squashed by a team that was jumped by another team before the bell? WTH?! Near as I can tell, The Naturals are still progressing through their paces with Douglas...They had LAX right where they wanted them, but LAX being uber, kept the belts anyhow...It was more about Shane Douglas than the belts... -- the Fight For the Right seemed less like a tournament and more like some weird hybrid thing with too many rules. A reverse battle royal followed by a standard battle royal followed by a one on one match to see who goes straight to the finals......why didn't they just draw a name out of a hopper or something? They did that setup because there were 16 guys possible to get in but only 7 were allowed...The match as a whole decided who would get in, and where they would be placed overall...When the tournament takes place (it'd be cool if it were all at one time, but I doubt it) there's 6 +Abyss in the first round, 4 in the second, then 2...Seems simple enough, and really, who draws names out of a hat anymore anyway..? Dunno... -- Why did they keep calling Bobby Roode "Robert?" that's his new name...When he introduced his manager, I half expected it to be Alexandra York when he changed his name to Robert (Terrence Taylor, Richard Morton etc.)... -- Angle hates Joe why again? If he wanted to wrestle fat samoans he could have stayed on Raw. Interesting that even as big as Angle is there was still the "Joe's gonna kill you" chants. Angle hates Joe because Joe's the biggest "threat" in TNA...He's the Samoan Submission Machine...I seriously doubt Angle/Umaga would have been even remotely entertaining personally...Angle/Joe..? That's another story... All In all.....not a bad show. Not a great one by any stretch, but not so terrible I regreted watching it. It's not like it had some useless celebrity running around like people actually gave a crap. Big Time Nothing to add to this that hasn't already been said... Right. All these details aside, the point Payback and I were trying to make is that it was a little strange for Christian to come out, demand a title shot, and then he enters himself in that crazy batlte royal after Sting gives him one anyway. Now, had they shown Christian so irritated by the fact that Sting refused to give him a shot until Sting "says so" (again--oddly heelish) that he DEMANDS to be in that "thing," then it would've felt alittle clearer. Not a big thing..just a little detail. It still felt odd, though. Christian chirped about being in a match with a dozen or so other guys whom he felt didn't deserve a shot because he didn't lose the title, and he wasn't given a rematch (valid)...Sting "says" he'll give him his shot, "on his time"...First of all, Mind games...Sting...Second of all, why wouldn't Christian go in the tournament..? He could loophole himself another title shot a la Edge (since we got that cleared up)... He didn't make it into the tournament, oh well, he still has a title shot (sans details)...Sure, it's more convoluted than it had to be, but I don't see any real problem with it...
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Post by Vidtek on Oct 27, 2006 23:57:47 GMT -5
They did that setup because there were 16 guys possible to get in but only 7 were allowed...The match as a whole decided who would get in, and where they would be placed overall...When the tournament takes place (it'd be cool if it were all at one time, but I doubt it) there's 6 +Abyss in the first round, 4 in the second, then 2...Seems simple enough, and really, who draws names out of a hat anymore anyway..? Well I do for Lethal Lotto teams in my GWF... But thanks for the run down. I knew something reall complicated wasn't going on...this is TNA after all. ;D I sitll want Hoyt to win. Big Time
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Post by Thad Killian on Oct 28, 2006 7:39:17 GMT -5
When I read about the tournament...it confused me and sounded a lil' cheesy but after it played out-it was a good idea! Although it was fairly predictable that Abyss would win the whole thing....kinda like the new sting as it mixes the beach bum and crow idea (which I totally hated)...Cristian Cage is horrid on the mic...Tenay needs to get another job ("Did you see that bodyslam at the beginning of the show folks?" Yep, a few of you know what I'm talking about!)..but TNA is actually getting better and garnishing some of my precious free time... MAYBE it could eventually compete with the WWE because the E is stagnant lately in my opinion.
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Post by hofclemens on Oct 28, 2006 9:36:35 GMT -5
I thought the Fight for your Right reminded me of something you would see on a indie show but I sort of enjoyed it. It's nice to have a show thats kind of completly different every once and a while. Hey I was a fan of the old Raw Bowl from about 10 years back so it may say something about my taste
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Post by misterb on Oct 29, 2006 2:22:47 GMT -5
One can sum up the Fight for the Right in one word: RUSSO. Let's see, we had: -18 guys "fighting" to get IN the ring; -a beatdown by LAX on AMW to follow up the earlier beatdown on LAX by AMW; -some situation between 3D and Shane Douglas that came straight out of left field; -Brother Runt and Eric Young basically playing the same character on either side of the ring; -Lance Hoyt and Robert Roode set up as stronger contenders than Styles/Daniels; -another Cage-Rhino brawl; -and a set-up for (wait for it, wait for it)...ANOTHER Abyss title shot. How does one spell "overbooked"?
Anyone else feel like Russo has been handed a goldmine in Angle-Joe and has already dreamed up about 5 ways to screw it all up?
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Post by Splattercat on Oct 29, 2006 3:22:15 GMT -5
Should also point out that Sting has stated his desire to work with Abyss (among others including Samoa Joe), so it's probably not all Russo there...
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Post by BDS on Oct 29, 2006 6:11:17 GMT -5
One can sum up the Fight for the Right in one word: RUSSO. Let's see, we had: -18 guys "fighting" to get IN the ring; -a beatdown by LAX on AMW to follow up the earlier beatdown on LAX by AMW; -some situation between 3D and Shane Douglas that came straight out of left field; -Brother Runt and Eric Young basically playing the same character on either side of the ring; -Lance Hoyt and Robert Roode set up as stronger contenders than Styles/Daniels; -another Cage-Rhino brawl; -and a set-up for (wait for it, wait for it)...ANOTHER Abyss title shot. How does one spell "overbooked"? Anyone else feel like Russo has been handed a goldmine in Angle-Joe and has already dreamed up about 5 ways to screw it all up? And to come to Russo's defense, this is the first thing he's done with the book that's been vaguely like his old booking style. He dropped the Jackass stuff, he's depushed Jarrett, and he's done a pretty good job with iMPACT! in turning it into a solid, wrestling oriented show. I think we can excuse the clustermess.
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Post by fti on Oct 29, 2006 7:14:58 GMT -5
One can sum up the Fight for the Right in one word: RUSSO. Let's see, we had: -18 guys "fighting" to get IN the ring; -a beatdown by LAX on AMW to follow up the earlier beatdown on LAX by AMW; -some situation between 3D and Shane Douglas that came straight out of left field; -Brother Runt and Eric Young basically playing the same character on either side of the ring; -Lance Hoyt and Robert Roode set up as stronger contenders than Styles/Daniels; -another Cage-Rhino brawl; -and a set-up for (wait for it, wait for it)...ANOTHER Abyss title shot. How does one spell "overbooked"? Anyone else feel like Russo has been handed a goldmine in Angle-Joe and has already dreamed up about 5 ways to screw it all up? And to come to Russo's defense, this is the first thing he's done with the book that's been vaguely like his old booking style. He dropped the Jackass stuff, he's depushed Jarrett, and he's done a pretty good job with iMPACT! in turning it into a solid, wrestling oriented show. I think we can excuse the clustermess. I Agree BDS... I for one think Russo will do a good job with this new run for him as a booker.
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Post by misterb on Oct 29, 2006 11:10:32 GMT -5
I would love to agree. However, evidence to the contrary. Towards the end of his WWF run, he got too Russo-esque for me (titles changes every show? the Brood changing every couple of weeks?). He started off each WCW run fairly decently, but look how each imploded under his ideas. And don't even get me started on his TNA runs. The Hard-10 Tournament, anyone?
As has been said THOUSANDS of times before, if Russo has someone filtering his ideas, they work out. I have not heard that anyone in TNA does this, other than Jarrett, who has had less-than-questionable booking in the past. Anyone know if there is another filter I haven't heard about?
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