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Post by madacapa on May 7, 2006 9:48:56 GMT -5
His contract with the WWE is over in July, he has a book coming out, and my question is: when is he going to sign with TNA? I think it would be a perfect fit. He could come on the show and attack the WWE just like old times. It would be fun to see him in that role again.
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Post by gwffantrav on May 7, 2006 9:50:55 GMT -5
He could definitely come in after that Zbyszko probation angle ends. I for one, loved his time in the WWE.
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Post by PureHatred on May 7, 2006 10:14:04 GMT -5
Eric Bischoff's mismanagement of the locker room and his inability (or unwillingness) to push young talent or create new strars after the nWo put WCW ahead in the Monday Night Wars is a huge part of the reason the WCW folded.
I suppose seeing Eric as an on-air personality would be fun and he'd certainly be more entertaining than Zbysko. He just shouldn't be put in charge of ...anything basically.
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Post by Avarice on May 7, 2006 10:50:16 GMT -5
I think his time is done. He sunk WCW, he was Raw's GM for quite a while. I don't think he has much to offer us to make TNA better. The only thing he has going for him is he's one of Jeff Jarrett's friends. I don't think it'd be that great. Personally I'd like to see Cyrus comeback and have some sort of roll as the "network" guy like he did in ECW.
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Post by PureHatred on May 7, 2006 10:57:46 GMT -5
The only thing he has going for him is he's one of Jeff Jarrett's friends. He is?  ? I think you might be confusing EB for Russo. |
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Post by madacapa on May 7, 2006 11:10:49 GMT -5
Let me be clear that when Eric Bishoff comes to TNA, and do mean "when", I want him to just be an on air personality, not in charge of anything. He did drive the WCW into the ground, after he lifted it up, but it would be interesting to see him in TNA as talent.
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Post by Mr. Jimmyface on May 7, 2006 11:30:35 GMT -5
I don't see Eric coming to TNA as anything other than an on air personality.
Truthfully, I don't want to see Eric Bischoff ever join TNA. Ever. I am a fan of him both as an on-air performer and businessman, but joining TNA would do nothing for either product. To quickly re-cap an earlier post of mine, bringing back old and/or established names over building and developing new talent is a mistake. Granted, bringing in an established name is a good thing to do in wrestling for the short term, but your key to long term success is to establish and develop your own stars. And TNA is really running rampant with bringing in older stars that do nothing to improve the product outside of a quick buzz and PPV. To bring in Bischoff would just be another old WCW name bring thrown into the pot, and would have no real impact or effect on the product.
If Eric is smart, he'll avoid them and continue trying to evolve Fusient Media.
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Post by swarm on May 7, 2006 13:11:13 GMT -5
well God knows TNA would sign Eric Bischoff's skid-marked underwear if they could...hell, they'de probably even give it a stable...
if he ever wants to go there, they will sign him for sure. they will sign anybody. it's really like watching a slow-motion car wreck...I love it.
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Post by madacapa on May 7, 2006 13:33:25 GMT -5
I think with Kevin Nash's apparent return to TNA, maybe they are laying the groundwork for a shocking storyline that has Eric Bishoff in it. Maybe he will a manager for a wrestling stable, instread of a "general manager" for the show. Either way, I would like to see him at TNA. Hell, bring back the Honky Tonk Man too. The more the merrier...
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Post by GalactiKing on May 8, 2006 10:31:29 GMT -5
I imagine Eric may be happier away from the wrestling game. He has a lot of interests outside it for sure.
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Post by JED-SE on May 9, 2006 9:53:25 GMT -5
Sorry, I have to basically disagree with everyone. Bishoff actually put WCW on the map. While WCW fell, I don't think it was all Eric's fault. The fact that they kept vacating belts, changing managment and placing Vince Russo in charge is what really ruined WCW. While Bishoff shares some of the responsibility, he shouldn't receive all of the blame.
As far as Bishoff coming to TNA, he would obviously be good on the screen. However, while he has experience competing against WWE, he wouldn't have Ted Turner's money to offer other stars. Who knows? Bishoff might be TNA's only chance.
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Post by canadianpittbull on May 9, 2006 12:43:17 GMT -5
The WWE made a mistake taking Bishoff out of the picture. And they also missed the boat with a 3 Minute Warning reunion with Bishoff at the helm. That was some great stuff. If they brought him in I think he would be great at elevating some of the new stars and man he is entertaining when he is at his best.
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Post by thefamoustommyz on May 9, 2006 13:51:31 GMT -5
Sorry, I have to basically disagree with everyone. Bishoff actually put WCW on the map. While WCW fell, I don't think it was all Eric's fault. The fact that they kept vacating belts, changing managment and placing Vince Russo in charge is what really ruined WCW. While Bishoff shares some of the responsibility, he shouldn't receive all of the blame. As far as Bishoff coming to TNA, he would obviously be good on the screen. However, while he has experience competing against WWE, he wouldn't have Ted Turner's money to offer other stars. Who knows? Bishoff might be TNA's only chance. Counterpoint...if WCW hadn't been sinking, Bischoff wouldn't have been replaced with Russo to begin with. It's not like WCW was swimming along beautifully and someone said "You know what? It's high time we get a fresh face in the front office." Bischoff was good as the Raw GM, but I don't need to see him eating up time on TNA's single hour of weekly programming...and he's SURE not their only chance. |
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Post by PureHatred on May 9, 2006 19:57:58 GMT -5
Sorry, I have to basically disagree with everyone. Bishoff actually put WCW on the map. While WCW fell, I don't think it was all Eric's fault. The fact that they kept vacating belts, changing managment and placing Vince Russo in charge is what really ruined WCW. While Bishoff shares some of the responsibility, he shouldn't receive all of the blame. As far as Bishoff coming to TNA, he would obviously be good on the screen. However, while he has experience competing against WWE, he wouldn't have Ted Turner's money to offer other stars. Who knows? Bishoff might be TNA's only chance. Counterpoint...if WCW hadn't been sinking, Bischoff wouldn't have been replaced with Russo to begin with. It's not like WCW was swimming along beautifully and someone said "You know what? It's high time we get a fresh face in the front office." Yeah, exactly. Bischoff became so enamored with his own genius that he refused to change his product at all, no matter what. He never made any new stars and WCW quckly went from being "the hip new thing" to "same ol' same ol'" You can say Vince Russo did a bad job rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, but he was still rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic. |
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Post by gatekeeper on May 9, 2006 21:30:18 GMT -5
Watch the Monday Night Wars DVD and Gene Okerlund has some good insight on the downfall of WCW and EB's role in it.
He said Bischoff would let almost all the talent write into their contracts that they would have complete creative control over their on air character. Gene says, "That can't happen."
He also said that Bischoff wasn't the most organized of guys as he stated they'd be 10 minutes from going on the air and nobody would know the order of matches!
Flair, Big Show, Jericho, and many others echo those same comments. Jericho said being in WCW was like being the Wizard of Oz in the black & white scenes, and when he got the WWE, it was in color. Y2J said, "Wow, this is how it's supposed to be."
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Post by Mr. Jimmyface on May 9, 2006 21:38:32 GMT -5
There is a great book called "The Death of WCW" by R.D. Reynolds and Bryan Alvarez. It's available at most major bookstores. The problems with WCW were beyond just one person causing all of the problems. It was a giant corporate run company with many problems, a lot of people who tried to fix them, and even more people who saw a way to make money out of it.
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Post by incognito on May 9, 2006 22:27:11 GMT -5
Bishoff might be good for TNA. If anyone can explain to TNA why having one "old timer" main eventer can be good for the company...constantly dragging up old names and wrestlers; especially when they are immediately placed in main event positions, gets old fast and only serves to turn wrestlers who could lead your company into mid card muck. its Eric Bishoff.
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Post by thefamoustommyz on May 9, 2006 22:30:22 GMT -5
That *still* doesn't mean Bischoff should be remotely considered a solution by TNA.
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Post by incognito on May 9, 2006 22:48:12 GMT -5
That *still* doesn't mean Bischoff should be remotely considered a solution by TNA. No, but if he has learned from his mistakes he would be a valuable asset backstage. "It could be your only purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others." -Despair.com |
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Post by PureHatred on May 10, 2006 0:13:18 GMT -5
There is a great book called "The Death of WCW" by R.D. Reynolds and Bryan Alvarez. It's available at most major bookstores. The problems with WCW were beyond just one person causing all of the problems. It was a giant corporate run company with many problems, a lot of people who tried to fix them, and even more people who saw a way to make money out of it. That is a great book and Eric can't possibly take ALL the blame. but even in making the point that WCW's failure was the culmination of an assortment of problems, Eric was the one that pointed the company in its final direction. If he had done a better job while the company was on top then things never would've ;ve gone the way they did. And like Tommy, I don't think Bischoff could do much for TNA. As a booker, he had literally ONE good idea. Granted it was the nWo, but he was basically a one hit wonder. And as an on-screen performer, he's not that interesting. |
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