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Post by floydthebarber on Jan 16, 2006 16:21:27 GMT -5
I'll give you the benifit of the doubt seeing as how I didn't actually watch the PPV...but numerous reports I read said that it was actually a pretty decent match that was building momentum before Moore jumped in. Oh well...guess throwing Moore out there was a 'save'...
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Post by ringsyde on Jan 16, 2006 16:25:53 GMT -5
Tanahashi reminds me of Yugi Nagata in his WCW stint. As with Nagata then, Tanahashi is very young and not quite experienced enough to be credible with an American performer. In two or three years, he'll be an attraction worth any North American promotion's time. As for now, this guy has had the luxury of very talented Japanese stars covering his inexperience and communicating with him in his own language when things were going wrong.
As for the main event, Sting has definitely not forgotten how to ride the bike. My concern is that the Jarret's will use this startling revalation to push him straight past Cage, Brown, Styles and Daniels and into a title reign.
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Post by hawk on Jan 16, 2006 18:15:50 GMT -5
If you got the PPV, like I did...I dunno what match you saw. AJ was the one messing up against Tanahashi with timing and mis-cues. Tanahashi was freaking awesome, and gave a very cool aura of being good, knowing it, and wanting to prove it.
The PPV was fairly lackluster until the final two matches. Those made it worth the thirty to me. Daniels DIIIIIED, and Sting came back looking awesome. Great stuff.
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Post by ringsyde on Jan 16, 2006 18:54:26 GMT -5
Tanahashi was very good. He just wasn't very good with A.J. Styles.
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Post by Mad Dog on Jan 16, 2006 19:56:00 GMT -5
It wasn't a bad match. They just went for more of a Japanese style of match than an X Division match. It seems a lot of the complaining I've read on other sites is the lack of high spots.
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Post by josharpie99 on Jan 16, 2006 21:47:58 GMT -5
I didn't watch the PPV either, but it sounds like TNA is subject to the bad booking illness currently plaguing WWE. Maybe some day, someone will "Get it," right Vince?
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Post by hawk on Jan 16, 2006 22:20:02 GMT -5
That was a messup on NJPW and TNA's sides. Tanahashi is NOT a "X-Division" style guy. He's a heavyweight in the mold of Fujinami, or Muto. He can fly, but he's a great technical worker.
They had wanted Kanemoto, which would have been fun, but he's injured, and might not be in NJPW anymore. They also wanted Tigermask IV...but they said no, and offered Tanahashi.
Still was good all things considered.
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Post by Mad Dog on Jan 16, 2006 22:28:04 GMT -5
I've been thinking that they should just import a New Japan junior every month for Joe to destroy on PPV. That way you could build his reign up and not have to worry about building someone up only to tear them down.
Tiger Mask, El Samuari and Kanemoto are probably gone from New Japan so don't expect to see them anytime soon.
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Post by pikemojo on Jan 17, 2006 0:44:54 GMT -5
Swarm, I don't get it. You keep saying that TNA needs to do this or that and then you say that even if they did you wouldn't watch it. What is the point? I at least will watch WWE when they do something right. Heck, if I am free I will watch WWE when they are doing all things wrong.
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Post by gamtime247 on Jan 17, 2006 9:01:22 GMT -5
I saw on Impact the video package with Konnan and The James Gang but looked at results for the PPV and no one involved fought each other at all. Was there any interaction with this storyline at all at the ppv?
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Post by sickman on Jan 17, 2006 10:52:07 GMT -5
If I'm not mistaken the interaction between the James Gang and Konnan came from Ron Killings.
Konnan confronted Killings about not returning his phone calls but said no problem I have your back anyway. Killings said he didn't know who to trust and tried to blow Konnan off. During the "Truths" match is when a fight broke out between the James Gang and Konnan.
I'm pretty sure thats what I read at PWTorch.com. Something similar at least.
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Post by hawk on Jan 17, 2006 18:26:59 GMT -5
BG went after Konnan while he was tyring to recruit Killings and got socked for it. Basicly.
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Post by swarm on Jan 17, 2006 23:29:36 GMT -5
Swarm, I don't get it. You keep saying that TNA needs to do this or that and then you say that even if they did you wouldn't watch it. What is the point? I at least will watch WWE when they do something right. Heck, if I am free I will watch WWE when they are doing all things wrong. I could tell you what the CPC needs to do but it doesn't mean I'm going to play it... hypothetically speaking... |
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Post by gatekeeper on Jan 18, 2006 7:39:41 GMT -5
Here's something I don't get. Why would you air a taped iMPACT show after the PPV happened? They were hyping all the matches for the "upcoming" PPV when, by the time that show aired, the PPV had already taken place.
That makes no sense at all.
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Post by sickman on Jan 18, 2006 8:44:14 GMT -5
Here's something I don't get. Why would you air a taped iMPACT show after the PPV happened? They were hyping all the matches for the "upcoming" PPV when, by the time that show aired, the PPV had already taken place. That makes no sense at all. When did this happen? I know that they just taped the next 2 shows yesterday. |
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Post by canadianpittbull on Jan 18, 2006 13:11:49 GMT -5
The reason for that would be because Spike replays the saturday night show on Monday night, if anything it might catch folks who did not get the ppv sunday to catch the replay. Anything that has to do with after the ppv was taped yesterday. I have seen the same thing happen with the WWE so this is not unusual.
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Post by sickman on Jan 18, 2006 13:57:34 GMT -5
Ahhh yes. I forgot that they replay the Saturday Night show on Mondays. I usually just catch the last part of UFC then go to bed.
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Post by gatekeeper on Jan 18, 2006 14:18:48 GMT -5
The reason for that would be because Spike replays the saturday night show on Monday night, if anything it might catch folks who did not get the ppv sunday to catch the replay. Anything that has to do with after the ppv was taped yesterday. I have seen the same thing happen with the WWE so this is not unusual. Oh, I didn't realize that was a repeated show. That makes sense. |
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Post by Wad on Jan 18, 2006 16:50:55 GMT -5
TNA just needs some solid booking and an interesting angle and soon it will be competing with WWE. If by soon, you mean 10 to 15 years, then yes, TNA does have the chance of competing with WWE. If it can hang around that long. Competing with WWE means being on the same financial footing as WWE. TNA is not even close to that. It has to consistently operate within the black, and WWE is years ahead of TNA in brand recognition and market positioning. TNA has an interesting wrestling product. It has to translate that into something that can also make money. What TNA needs is a media benefactor. Viacom must realize that it can be the catalyst to take TNA to that level. It was burned by the WWE experience, because it acquired the rights to WWE during a boom and bore the brunt of a slump. TNA is a low-recognition promotion that can grow tremendously. Spike should use the money to acquire people who can help secure licensing deals and produce a polished show. This ensures the financial viability of TNA. |
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Post by canadianpittbull on Jan 19, 2006 10:34:36 GMT -5
Well their replay on Monday night got them their highest rating yet which spells good news. I am just tired of people knocking this show. If your a true wrestling fan you watch wrestling regardless. The WWE has been lack lustre at best through the years but still pulls off a half decent show or gets back into the game creatively.
TNA is quite possible the next best thing once they can get into the swing of things. But most around here put the weight of a company like the WWE on their shoulders! WWE has been around for years and years and has solidified themselves as the leader in sports entertainment. So of course most WWE marks are going to slam anything that comes on the radar that is a threat to a time tested survivor like the WWE.
Well guess what if you hated WCW or ECW then quite possibly your going to hate TNA because as far as I see it WCW and ECW seem to have a bit of their spirit sitting within TNA which if done right could become a nice blend of old school NWA meets WCW meets ECW. Debate all you want but I am tired of chuckle heads coming on these boards and slamming TNA just for the sake of slamming it instead of being productive. If you love WWE soo much then go hang out in the WWE thread and pat each other on the back.
I use to put the Hater-aid hat on for WWE but I don't anymore I just look at what is good and comment on what could be better about the product but I am not going to post some useless thread that says oh something like..."WHY TNA SUCKS IN FIVE SENTENCES for example? Why bother? Waste of time and energy. Sure everyone has an opinion but enough of the negativity. Sure wrestling may not be up to par as of late but the fans are not being very supportive either with their stupid chants that make no sense. Be apart of the show instead of in a destructive lets boo the face because its cool....grow up.
Okay I think I am done ranting, Just tired of the negativity and hence why I don't talk about real wrestling on this board at all if I can help it. Or any board for that matter. Opinions are like arseholes and some peoples are bigger than others. ;D
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