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Post by Rush on Oct 3, 2005 20:24:03 GMT -5
:)It felt soooo good to watch wrestling not produced by the WWE. I loved to see new guys doing new moves, and even in a new ring. It was all so fresh. This is why I will be staying up late every Sat. to watch TNA. As if I dont stay up late anyway  . |
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Post by MikeMcKinney on Oct 4, 2005 1:23:22 GMT -5
Amen Brothers
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Post by canadianpittbull on Oct 4, 2005 9:43:38 GMT -5
The more support these folks get the better the product will get and this will give them the momentum to push the show to two hours and possibly move it to Monday nights.
I have been supporting these guys since they first showed up on PPV here in Canada and on ESPN Classic and I was amazed and floored by their heart, their passion and the athleticism they put on in that ring. You want to see real desire TNA has it! I only hope they don't lose touch with their vision and go the route of Vince and fails to see what the fans want instead of what he wants to see.
If they can keep their heads out of the clouds they should do alright!
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Post by Big Bri on Oct 4, 2005 12:55:56 GMT -5
I watched the replay last night. I thought it was a great show, but they pulled out a few stops because it was the "debut". The REAL test will be to see what they come up with in the next few weeks.
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Post by Shon Maxx on Oct 4, 2005 15:09:07 GMT -5
I caught the replay and it wasn't bad. They do need to stop imitating Wheel Chair Wrestling and boxing (and unfortunately UFC at times) where they return from a commercial, talk for 30 seconds, then go to another commercial. I thought commercials were supposed to separate segments, not pieces of dialog.
Anyways, m first time seeing Styles and he reminds me of Sting because he's a former Heavyweight Champion who also sells with a midcard title. He could be the future of TNA in the future.
The X division wrestlers wre pretty impressive.
Rhino/Hardy was a good match, and it's good to see Sabu still out there doing damage.
Jerrett/Nash...could care less. I hope they're just there to get people in; then they back off and let the younger stars move up. Otherwise, if they won't move them out of the way, the younger talent needs to move them, steal their spotlight, whatever!
Overall, not a bad opening show with some noticable potential. Now whether or not it will be able to compete with the WWE in the future still remains to be seen.
Jay
(Formerly Nemecys )
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Post by dennish on Oct 4, 2005 16:01:24 GMT -5
I can say that I'll be getting the TNA PPV's from here on out, I just ordered the cable box so I can get
PPV's. I'll have it set-up at the end of the week and when the Month comes to the PPV, I'll be watching TNA Bound for Glory. I agree watching something other then a WWE produced show has been great, and we have more to come.
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Post by Rush on Oct 4, 2005 17:32:02 GMT -5
Its knd of funny that the guys that they push and expect to be main eventers, no one seems to care about. I was impressed with Styles, Saben, and that guy who does the canadian destroyer. I think these kind of guys should be pushed, they are making the show exciting. People like Jeff Jarret are slowing the show down.
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Post by dennish on Oct 4, 2005 17:58:04 GMT -5
You know this is a great topic, we're talking about another promotion other then the WWE. I know this is not a move that might be good for TNA, but if Spike gives TNA a live 2 hour show or taped... move it to Friday nights and compete with Smackdown at first. RAW is a powerhouse, but if TNA can build from a Saturday Night show to a Friday Night show then make the move to Monday nights. I was not pleased today that five stores did not have the TNA DVD's, so I'm ordering the Best of X Vol. 1 from Amazon.
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Post by Joe on Oct 4, 2005 18:50:15 GMT -5
I like that people are talking about AJ Styles being the future of TNA and how they should push him. They need to push him in a hurry. He's been the show-seller since the company started, and they keep stalling his push.
I've been saying Styles is one of the best in the business for three years, and TNA still seems hesitant to give him the ball. Perhaps its because he can't talk and looks like a redneck who just got out of an Iroc and could resume cutting lines in his hair any day now.
I like Christopher Daniels, as well. If he could teach Styles how to cut a promo and bless him with some charisma, then TNA will be in pretty good shape.
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Post by canadianpittbull on Oct 4, 2005 19:40:06 GMT -5
So found this little bit of info....Vince and co need to grow up.....
Here's another legal threat WWE has made to someone, it's perhaps the craziest of them all.
"WWE's legal department sent a letter to TNA recently that demanded that they not call their talent "wrestling superstars" or "superstars" in public or on commentary as that is a WWE trademarked term, at least WWE believes so. At this time, Bill Banks, webmaster of TNAWrestling.com, has been scrambling to change all "superstar" comments to "TNA star" or "TNA wrestler" on the TNA site.
Many backstage in both WWE and TNA see this as being completely petty on WWE's part, not to mention childish. Keep in mind though, what comes around goes around."
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Post by thefamoustommyz on Oct 4, 2005 19:44:26 GMT -5
Styles has "physical charisma"...the crowd loves him...they just don't love to hear him talk. He's kinda like Goldberg in that respect. That's the one reason Styles made a better heel...because he had a mouthpiece (sure, it was Russo...but still).
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Post by tystates on Oct 4, 2005 20:23:38 GMT -5
I'm glad TNA is back on tv, but other than this being their debut on Spike the show really wasn't anything special. It was the same as Impact was before they went off Fox Sports, a few quick matches and some interview/run in at the end.
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Post by tafkaga on Oct 5, 2005 0:09:05 GMT -5
I'm going to chime in here... the Canadian Destroyer is the most stupid move ever attempted in the history of wrestling. It looks more like some kind of a trapeze act than it does a wrestling move. It would be impossible to accomplish this without the cooperation of both wrestlers. Yes, I know that there are plenty of moves like that.... but this one is so obviously fake looking that it's almost an insult to the intelligence.
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Post by pikemojo on Oct 5, 2005 4:13:41 GMT -5
Every move is like that. If you have watched any real fighting (UFC for example) then you would know how impossible it is to pull of much more than submissions and strikes and a rare slam. You could never have a specific finisher. It is pro-wrestling.
Watch any wrestling match with that same attitude and see how many moves are so obviously 2 people doing a move.
The Canadian Destroyer looks really cool.
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Post by canadianpittbull on Oct 5, 2005 10:41:06 GMT -5
I'm going to chime in here... the Canadian Destroyer is the most stupid move ever attempted in the history of wrestling. It looks more like some kind of a trapeze act than it does a wrestling move. It would be impossible to accomplish this without the cooperation of both wrestlers. Yes, I know that there are plenty of moves like that.... but this one is so obviously fake looking that it's almost an insult to the intelligence. Are ya done? Naysayer! ;D |
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Post by thefamoustommyz on Oct 5, 2005 12:15:10 GMT -5
You continue hating on it, tafkaga, and I'll continue loving it, and we'll both be happy.
Frankly, the Canadian Destroyer kills my suspension of disbelief a LOT loss than the use of some foreign objects in wrestling (such as Nash whacking Terry Funk in the HEAD with a baseball bat, and Funk back and ready to go on the next show).
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Post by tafkaga on Oct 5, 2005 13:09:17 GMT -5
Every move is like that. If you have watched any real fighting (UFC for example) then you would know how impossible it is to pull of much more than submissions and strikes and a rare slam. You could never have a specific finisher. It is pro-wrestling. Watch any wrestling match with that same attitude and see how many moves are so obviously 2 people doing a move. The Canadian Destroyer looks really cool. Yeah, I realize that all moves are like this... it is after all pro wrestling which requires complete cooperation. But it's the suspension of disbelief I'm talking about here. This move is just so far out there that I gotta roll my eyes every time I see it. The wrestling spots these days, although they may take more coordination and be more viscerally appealing, are so much more contrived and fake looking than they were even 10 years ago. For all of my looking I can't see the genius in these X-division matches when they look more fake than a match between Brutus Beefcake and Bastion Booger. Ok that's just my opinion and others have got every right to disagree and have their own. Surprises me though since almost every wrestling forum I've been to bashes this move. But I guess if everyone hated the move he wouldn't still be doing it.  |
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Post by dennish on Oct 5, 2005 18:28:41 GMT -5
I'm not excited for just one match this coming iMPACT, I'm really looking to see the whole show from top to bottom. I know that TNA is far from being a contender to the WWE, and well I really think they need to stay away from that for several years. TNA needs to remain loyal to the Alternative Wrestling promotion, but kick it in the pants and not layback and make sure it's a solid promotion. I'am only one person, but I like seeing Jarrett and Nash... these guys may not be the Hogans or Harts, but they have a history good or bad in wrestling. The guys that standout are Styles, Daniels, Shelly, AMW and the list goes on and thats a great thing for TNA. I have not been this excited for a promotion since well getting cable in the 80's and watching the NWA on TBS for the fist time. TNA might not be the WWE, and may never be but that is a good thing... I'd rather see TNA continue on and make a different and solid promotion and follow their own path, then copy the WWE. They will do some cloning thats for sure, but matches like the Ultimate X Match and the X Division spice things up in wrestling. I know for sure that the WWE will be watched less now that TNA is on Spike TV and now that I have a chance to order each TNA PPV starting with BFG. My final thought is TNA has some classic japanese wrestlers involved with the PPV, Liger will be great to see again.
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Post by Rush on Oct 5, 2005 21:09:52 GMT -5
Every move is like that. If you have watched any real fighting (UFC for example) then you would know how impossible it is to pull of much more than submissions and strikes and a rare slam. You could never have a specific finisher. It is pro-wrestling. Watch any wrestling match with that same attitude and see how many moves are so obviously 2 people doing a move. The Canadian Destroyer looks really cool. Yeah, I realize that all moves are like this... it is after all pro wrestling which requires complete cooperation. But it's the suspension of disbelief I'm talking about here. This move is just so far out there that I gotta roll my eyes every time I see it. The wrestling spots these days, although they may take more coordination and be more viscerally appealing, are so much more contrived and fake looking than they were even 10 years ago. For all of my looking I can't see the genius in these X-division matches when they look more fake than a match between Brutus Beefcake and Bastion Booger. Ok that's just my opinion and others have got every right to disagree and have their own. Surprises me though since almost every wrestling forum I've been to bashes this move. But I guess if everyone hated the move he wouldn't still be doing it. Watch a Mysterio match. Almost all the moves he does would make you roll you eyes if the Canadian Destoyer does. |
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Post by tafkaga on Oct 5, 2005 21:29:15 GMT -5
They do.
I don't get American-style lucha. Most of the high risk moves they do would hurt themselves more than the guy they're doing the move to.
I guess it's the tradeoff they made when they got rid of unrealistic gimmicks... they had to make the wrestling more unrealistic. I prefer the cartoonish gimmicks to cartoonish wrestling. Just a preference.
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