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Post by Wildfire on Oct 5, 2006 15:40:17 GMT -5
I can tell actually.. I work in a PSYCHOLOGY book store, I'd know if you were crazy.. it was meant as a compliment  I figured you weren't accusing me of being Big Dreamer Swank or anything like that. I just like sucking up to the wife in public whenever possible for the brownie points to trade in at the Holli Store at a later date. *nods* brownie points are very important.. I'm hope to score a holy Splattercat-on-THREAD pile of them for my plan tommorrow (surpising WIFE with dinner and a movie for our anniversary a week early... as long as her friend that's sitting on the children hasn't blown it on me) |
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Post by Chewey on Oct 5, 2006 15:40:41 GMT -5
it's only about the battle of Red Cliff though mind you, so you won't see Lu Bu or Sima Yi for example... I'm not immediately familiar with a "Kwon" in Three Kingdoms...Unless you mean "Guan" as in Guan Yu... Guan Yu has also been deified. I have never seen a statue of Liu Bei or Zhang Fei in a Chinese restaurant before. That red-faced, black-bearded, guy in green with a halberd is present everywhere though. Although right now one of the top stars in Singapore has a song called "Cao Cao," so maybe Cao Cao is a distant second. The Character of Guan Yu was developed from the Legend of General Kwon. The basically took the huge guy who was a fierce warrior, and helped the greatest melee weapon ever, the kwon dao, and made him into the more mythic figure of Guan Yu I find it amusing that in the Dynasty Warriors video games, although they do give Guan Yu a Glaive, they never give him an actual Kwon Dao, which also has a pike on the other end. |
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Post by Wildfire on Oct 5, 2006 15:41:42 GMT -5
BTW, WB Chewey.. just realize it was you I was responding too
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Post by Chewey on Oct 5, 2006 15:47:33 GMT -5
this being the one that was done in China? Did they ever translate that into English? I've only watched like the first five episodes of that one... up to the part where Lu Bu shoots an arrow through his halberd in order to prevent Cao Cao and Liu Bei from killing each other. The Moss Roberts translation of the book is by far the best English translation available. Yeah, that's the one I have... I think each of the two volume run $19.95... luckily, I get to pay wholesale  I think the older version of the translation is on Threekingdoms.net, if you can stand reading from the screen I've seen manga in English of the story... unfortunately its the ONLY thing they publish, so I couldn't get a discount  I've only heard of the anime second hand, never actually seen it for sale, so you'd have to let 'Cat answer that one. Xiahou Dun is my favorite too... he's always the guy I use first in all the video games Xiahou Dun is awesome. He's hardcore. Do you like other Chinese Wuxia fiction stuff? I'm a big fan of Jin Yong novels. |
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Post by Chewey on Oct 5, 2006 15:49:06 GMT -5
Heya, Chewey! When did you sneak in? that's exactly it. I'm sneaking in for a few minutes before I have to go back to the law school. ...I see you totally demolished my previous record of twenty unanswered posts, with what -- 80 straight? All hail Big Daddy Swank! All hail Big Daddy Swank! Big Daddy Swank is Swank! Big Daddy Swank is your Daddy! |
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Post by Wildfire on Oct 5, 2006 15:50:21 GMT -5
Pages 226-230 where talk of a uniform for the collective was brought to the fore, not to mention Valerie Bertinelli.
THREAD's top acolytes.
1. One of Nine ('Cat) : 726(+10.. very consistent of you)
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2. Four of Nine (BDS): 448 (+16) jackpot!
3. Two of Nine (Chewey): 434
4. Three of Nine (Ace) : 373
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5. Jeri Ryan (Wildfire) : 275 (+7)
6. First of Many (Turkish): 225(+21)
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7. Nine of Nine (Incognito): 148
8. Five of Nine (DMK): 123
9. Eight of Nine (Werner) : 103
10. Six of Nine:(nellybob): 102
Honorable Mention: Four-Point-One of Nine (BDS Keeper) 85, Behindthebook 79, Trav 71, Jon Diamond 51, Frank2 49, Cakejedi 28
You might want to get a designation ready for BehindtheBook, Four of Nine... he's coming up fast!
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Post by Wildfire on Oct 5, 2006 15:51:52 GMT -5
Yeah, that's the one I have... I think each of the two volume run $19.95... luckily, I get to pay wholesale I think the older version of the translation is on Threekingdoms.net, if you can stand reading from the screen I've seen manga in English of the story... unfortunately its the ONLY thing they publish, so I couldn't get a discount I've only heard of the anime second hand, never actually seen it for sale, so you'd have to let 'Cat answer that one. Xiahou Dun is my favorite too... he's always the guy I use first in all the video games Xiahou Dun is awesome. He's hardcore. Do you like other Chinese Wuxia fiction stuff? I'm a big fan of Jin Yong novels. I've only read Three Kingdoms (Koei send me there) ... there's other stuff? I always equated it to the King Arthur Legend in the west... sorta a one of a kind thing. |
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Post by Chewey on Oct 5, 2006 15:52:06 GMT -5
pgs 191-195 .. move trivia, and discussion of ancient Chinese history... No one can kick my butt in Chinese history. No one. I studied with the greatest masters of Chinese history, while in China. ;D |
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Post by behindthebook on Oct 5, 2006 15:52:16 GMT -5
Survived another meeting to return to the comforting embrace of THREAD.
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Post by Splattercat on Oct 5, 2006 15:52:53 GMT -5
Heya Chewey... I'm actually mid-Episode 79 of the RoTK series...During Sima Yi's Coup...So I'm almost done the series... |
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Post by Chewey on Oct 5, 2006 15:55:10 GMT -5
Xiahou Dun is awesome. He's hardcore. Do you like other Chinese Wuxia fiction stuff? I'm a big fan of Jin Yong novels. I've only read Three Kingdoms (Koei send me there) ... there's other stuff? I always equated it to the King Arthur Legend in the west... sorta a one of a kind thing. Well, ROTK is considered one of the Four Great Literary Classics of Chinese Literature (not to be confused with the Five Great Classics of Confucian-era China). The others are Dream of Red Chamber (kind of like a Chinese version of Pride and Prejudice - not for me) Journey to the West (they make this into a cartoon all of the time, because it is about the Monkey King.) and Outlaws of the Marsh (also known as the Water Margin.) Outlaws of the Marsh is sort of a cross between ROTK and Robin Hood. It is the least known to Western culture of the Four Classics, partly because for a good while the story is repetitive. But if you like reading about patriotic bandits who were forced into their way of life by the corrupt government but would risk their lives for the glory of their countries, this is a great book. |
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Post by gwffantrav on Oct 5, 2006 15:55:43 GMT -5
Pages 226-230 where talk of a uniform for the collective was brought to the fore, not to mention Valerie Bertinelli. THREAD's top acolytes. 1. One of Nine ('Cat) : 726(+10.. very consistent of you) ------------------------------------ 2. Four of Nine (BDS): 448 (+16) jackpot! 3. Two of Nine (Chewey): 434 4. Three of Nine (Ace) : 373 ------------------------------------- 5. Jeri Ryan (Wildfire) : 275 (+7) 6. First of Many (Turkish): 225(+21) ------------------------------------------- 7. Nine of Nine (Incognito): 148 8. Five of Nine (DMK): 123 9. Eight of Nine (Werner) : 103 10. Six of Nine:(nellybob): 102 Honorable Mention: Four-Point-One of Nine (BDS Keeper) 85, Behindthebook 79, Trav 71, Jon Diamond 51, Frank2 49, Cakejedi 28 You might want to get a designation ready for BehindtheBook, Four of Nine... he's coming up fast! I'm about ready to ban that woman!!! No woman shall go before me!!!! 14 ahead of me my foot!!!! |
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Post by Chewey on Oct 5, 2006 15:56:01 GMT -5
By the way, Outlaws of the Marsh in Chinese is "Shui Hu Zhuan"
The main character of the story is named "Song Jiang."
ONE MORE POINT FOR CHEWEY, BABY!!
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Post by behindthebook on Oct 5, 2006 15:56:44 GMT -5
You know what frosts my cookies?
Texas politics.
Rick Perry has one of the lowest gubernatorial approval ratings in the country. Recent polls show 60% of Texans want someone else as governor . . . And the guy’s going to win reelection by 20 points if not more. What kind of nut house do I live in?
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Post by Chewey on Oct 5, 2006 15:58:10 GMT -5
Heya Chewey... I'm actually mid-Episode 79 of the RoTK series...During Sima Yi's Coup...So I'm almost done the series... Sima Yi threw the coup? I thought it was Sima Yan or one of the other descendants. Whatever, so the Cao clan gets usurped after they usurped the Liu clan's rule. A fitting ending, I would say. I would say more, but don't want to spoil it more if you didn't know. |
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Post by BDS on Oct 5, 2006 16:01:16 GMT -5
Heya, Chewey! When did you sneak in? that's exactly it. I'm sneaking in for a few minutes before I have to go back to the law school. ...I see you totally demolished my previous record of twenty unanswered posts, with what -- 80 straight? All hail Big Daddy Swank! All hail Big Daddy Swank! Big Daddy Swank is Swank! Big Daddy Swank is your Daddy! I'm still not sure it's a good thing. ;D I think it might be the posting equivalent of drinking two gallons of Jack. |
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Post by Splattercat on Oct 5, 2006 16:01:18 GMT -5
Favorite moments:
5)Zhuge Liang debates a man literally to Death...
4) Zhang Fei guards the bridge and screams at Cao Cao's army to try to cross it...The man beside Cao Cao vomits green stuff and falls over dead from fear...
3)Guan Yu, on his way back to Liu Bei after serving Cao Cao, goes on a killing spree, slaying 5(?) Generals on his way there...
2)Zhuge Liang single handedly repels Sima Yi's army of 300,000 soldiers with.....A Lute....
1) Zhao Yun rushes past Cao Cao's army of 1 million men to rescue Liu Bei's wife and son...The wife kills herself, so Zhao Yun wraps Liu Bei's infant son in his armour and rides back, THROUGH Cao Cao's army of 1 million troops...A massacre ensues and Zhao Yun not only kills 50 generals and hundreds (thousands?) of troops, but he manages to steal Cao Cao's prized sword in the process..!!
Honourable mention: Zhao Yun, now 70 years old, has an arrow shot at him while he's duelling...He catches the arrow, and throws it back, killing the sniper...Note that he THREW it back, he didn't shoot it....
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Post by Chewey on Oct 5, 2006 16:01:38 GMT -5
one of my favorite moments is when Cao Pi succeeded his father for the throne, even though his brother Cao Zhi was his father's preferred choice.
Cao Pi made his brother compose a poem within walking seven paces. Then he forced him to compose a poem about their relationship as brothers. His brother responded with the following:
Zhu dou ran dou qi,
Dou zai fu zhong qi.
Ben shi tong gen sheng,
Xiang jian he tai ji.
In English, this translates roughly to:
Boiling the beans to create the soup,
filtering them to extract the juice.
The beanstalks were charred amidst the flames,
and of this the beans thus wailed:
"Borne are we of the same root, brothers two;
should you now burn me with such disregard?"
Note: I copied and pasted this part from Wikipedia, although I had the four-line poem memorized from before. Hence the reason the lines don't match up word for word.
Touched, Cao Pi let his brother live out the rest of his life in seclusion.
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Post by BDS on Oct 5, 2006 16:03:02 GMT -5
Pages 226-230 where talk of a uniform for the collective was brought to the fore, not to mention Valerie Bertinelli. THREAD's top acolytes. 1. One of Nine ('Cat) : 726(+10.. very consistent of you) ------------------------------------ 2. Four of Nine (BDS): 448 (+16) jackpot! 3. Two of Nine (Chewey): 434 4. Three of Nine (Ace) : 373 ------------------------------------- 5. Jeri Ryan (Wildfire) : 275 (+7) 6. First of Many (Turkish): 225(+21) ------------------------------------------- 7. Nine of Nine (Incognito): 148 8. Five of Nine (DMK): 123 9. Eight of Nine (Werner) : 103 10. Six of Nine:(nellybob): 102 Honorable Mention: Four-Point-One of Nine (BDS Keeper) 85, Behindthebook 79, Trav 71, Jon Diamond 51, Frank2 49, Cakejedi 28 You might want to get a designation ready for BehindtheBook, Four of Nine... he's coming up fast! Next time you post, post out to like 15 or 20 instead of 10. Then we'll add in an entirely new set of designations (and even give a proper one to the wife!) |
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Post by behindthebook on Oct 5, 2006 16:04:12 GMT -5
So, I'm writing a spaceship miniature combat game with a friend of mine. We had six basic ship attributes, right? Well, my co-author sent me an e-mail today suggesting that we drop one of them. His reasoning? The remaining 5 can be arranged to make an acronym. Why am I telling you this? The acronym is: S.W.A.R.M.  |
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I think the older version of the translation is on Threekingdoms.net, if you can stand reading from the screen
