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Post by Trent Lawless on Jan 23, 2008 22:11:19 GMT -5
And the country continues snoring...
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Post by Chewey on Jan 25, 2008 19:54:09 GMT -5
Well, they say that the best liars of the world are actors, lawyers, and politicians. And Fred Thompson was all three.
Not that the character of any of the other candidates are more credible...
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Post by Trent Lawless on Jan 25, 2008 23:21:23 GMT -5
Not that the character of any of the other candidates are more credible... I don't know. I'm pretty sure Duncan Hunter is WYSIWYG. Not that that's in and of itself a good thing, but at least he's not deceptive! |
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Post by Chewey on Jan 29, 2008 22:13:30 GMT -5
So John McCain wins big in Florida.
Tim Russert on MSNBC is suggesting that McCain is dangling the vice presidency in front of Huckabee right now... if Huckabee stays in past next Tuesday, he will continue to help split the social conservative vote with Mitt Romney, and help McCain on the national ticket.
Huckabee as VP is too close to the Oval Office for me, personally...
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Post by Trent Lawless on Jan 29, 2008 22:15:52 GMT -5
With a septuagenarian president beginning his first term? Yeah, pretty close.
But smart move on McCain's part if so. He needs the social conservatives on board somehow. That might get some to tag along.
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Post by stephenvegas on Jan 29, 2008 22:17:09 GMT -5
It also looks like Rudy Guliani's campaign is over. He was counting heavily on Florida and he wasn't even close today.
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Post by Trent Lawless on Jan 29, 2008 22:24:31 GMT -5
Rudy had about the dumbest strategy ever. Way to waste your money. I think he knew he had no chance in those early states and this was his only hope, but man...
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Post by azfan on Jan 29, 2008 23:49:48 GMT -5
Hillary vs. McCain. Should be a low turn out election. Hillary is losing the black vote, McCain doesn't have conservatives. Huckabee as VP will be another reason to keep me away.
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Post by Trent Lawless on Jan 30, 2008 6:12:04 GMT -5
I think McCain is pretty well a given now, but Hillary I'm not as sure about. Next Tuesday will definitely tell a lot about where we're headed in November.
I think turnout could also depend on some ballot issues in a lot of states. Things like gay marriage votes bring people out in election years, too.
Personally, I think some Hillary/McCain debates could be entertaining.
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Post by Chewey on Jan 30, 2008 6:19:48 GMT -5
well, they're saying something along the lines that Florida's Democratic primary was like Michigan's Democratic primary in that it doesn't really matter anyway. Obama didn't really campaign there, and everywhere he has campaigned, he has done really well. So we'll have to wait until next Tuesday to find out.
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Post by Chewey on Jan 30, 2008 6:21:32 GMT -5
if Rudy had actually campaigned in the earlier states, I'm betting that Mitt Romney would be in the position that McCain is in now. McCain certainly would not have gotten all of his votes if Giuliani was in the race.
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Post by mwjergs on Jan 30, 2008 13:12:33 GMT -5
McCain.
In my opinion he should have gotten the nomination 8 years ago.
When he gets away from the political machine, he appears knowlegeable and heartfelt in his convictions. You don't find that much. I think he learned alot from his defeats and has had to "play the game" to get elected. It should happen for him.
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Post by azfan on Jan 30, 2008 18:17:50 GMT -5
One thing i will say is that he flip flopped on the Confederate flag. He says now that was a mistake. But he is doing the same thing with taxes. He opposed the tax cuts in 2001, now he is for them. I'd respect him more if he stuck to that. He also just seems to have a certain attitude that he is owed the nomination. I recall when Guliani said in a debate that he was for the Iraq 'surge" too, McCain looked at him like "what are you doing talking?"
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Post by MikeMcKinney on Jan 30, 2008 22:07:14 GMT -5
I'll say McCain. Even though I'm a Democrat, McCain is one of the few Republicans that seems like he knows what he's doing and could be a good President. Well said. My words exactly |
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Post by Tournament Master on Jan 30, 2008 23:18:03 GMT -5
I'll say McCain. Even though I'm a Democrat, McCain is one of the few Republicans that seems like he knows what he's doing and could be a good President. Well said. My words exactly I'm with you guys, thats who I wanted to win in 2000. At this point, the big questions are who his running mate will be and can Obama do enough next week to win the Democratic nod. Since the Republican field looks set, I think I will be declaring as a Democrat next Tuesday and voting for Obama...as I can't stand Hillary. If ya smell what Barack is Cooking! |
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Post by azfan on Jan 30, 2008 23:27:32 GMT -5
i liked McCain back then, but i feel his time has sort of passed. I also don't like that no matter what topic they bring up, he brings up war. I really think he'd push even more war. Plus he just has a nasty attitude. Living in Arizona there's also a lot of talk about his temper and the way he treats people.
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Post by Chewey on Jan 31, 2008 8:28:53 GMT -5
With a septuagenarian president beginning his first term? Yeah, pretty close. But smart move on McCain's part if so. He needs the social conservatives on board somehow. That might get some to tag along. Actually, I was thinking about how Huckabee might even hurt McCain as a running mate. Conventional wisdom goes that McCain would need to get the social conservatives on board. Would the social conservatives vote Hillary or Obama over McCain? I think McCain is safe there. The people he really needs to get on board are the fiscal conservatives, given his reputation as a big government spender, and his own self-professed limited knowledge of the economy in these financial hard times and worldwide fears of economic recession. Huckabee is not the answer for that. If anything, I know a few investment bankers and venture capitalists who told me that though they usually vote Republican, they would vote for the Democrat this year if Mike Huckabee got anywhere near the party ticket. Huckabee would help Hillary or Obama more as a running mate, probably. |
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Post by behindthebook on Jan 31, 2008 9:22:01 GMT -5
I worry about McCain's age. If he's elected he'll be the oldest president ever. He'll be older at the end of his first term then Regan was leaving office.
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Post by azfan on Jan 31, 2008 10:02:15 GMT -5
I don't know where you get McCain as a big Government Spender. He's noted for being against that. Huckabee is a disaster though. All the Dems need to do is play the clip of him saying the Constitution needs to be replaced with God's law.
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Post by Trent Lawless on Feb 1, 2008 5:50:42 GMT -5
Actually, I was thinking about how Huckabee might even hurt McCain as a running mate. Conventional wisdom goes that McCain would need to get the social conservatives on board. Would the social conservatives vote Hillary or Obama over McCain? I think McCain is safe there. But...would social conservatives even come out to vote at all if Huckabee wasn't on the ticket? They just might stay home otherwise, and if he's on the ticket, that will surely bring some of the social conservatives out, at least, and in the case of a key state like Ohio, that could be huge. I still say he'd be better off with Huckabee than with, say, Giuliani, although it definitely is a gamble. |
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