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Post by gatekeeper on Oct 15, 2006 10:09:21 GMT -5
I'm going with Michigan. Not just because I'm from Michigan but USC never plays anybody during the season and they almost lost to Arizona St. West Virginia looks to be a great team, but again, haven't played anybody yet.
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Post by Mad Dog on Oct 15, 2006 15:16:56 GMT -5
It shouldn't even be a question. Michigan has been dominate all season. Even though yesterday's game was 17-10 it was still total domination on Michigan's part. USC has been just barely sliding by weak teams all season.
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Post by Pete Beck on Oct 15, 2006 16:12:57 GMT -5
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Post by Pete Beck on Oct 15, 2006 16:15:01 GMT -5
It shouldn't even be a question. Michigan has been dominate all season. Even though yesterday's game was 17-10 it was still total domination on Michigan's part. USC has been just barely sliding by weak teams all season. 17 - 10 is not dominating in any aspect...that is a win by a touchdown with the other teams 3rd string QB in for most of the game...yeah dominating... |
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Post by Mad Dog on Oct 15, 2006 16:23:54 GMT -5
It was 17-3 until the very end and Michigan was never in any real danger of losing the lead in the 2nd half.
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Post by GOODZILLA on Oct 15, 2006 16:47:07 GMT -5
Penn State had -14 rushing yards. As in negative 14.
DOMINATING performance.
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Post by gatekeeper on Oct 15, 2006 22:23:59 GMT -5
Plus, UM was without their #1 WR in Mario Manningham.
It wasn't very close. UM gave up a bad TD with 3 minutes to go. PSU was never really in the game.
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Post by Pete Beck on Oct 16, 2006 0:56:49 GMT -5
trust me i saw the game...i know that Michigan won and pretty handily, but Penn St didn't give and even Michigan fans were sitting on the edge of their seats when the Lions got the onside kick after the TD in that last few minutes.
Basically, you can kick someones rear all over the stadium for 58 minutes, but if you let them stay in it and have the ball within striking range...that is not a dominating performance. It is a win by a TD.
You guys are crapping all over USC for doing the exact same thing against Arizona St....Did USC Domiante...early on yes they did 21 - 0. Michigan was up early as well. Did Arizona St. get back into the game? Yes they did and so did Penn St. Did both teams win by 7 points? YEP. Who cares how many yards they gave up rushing...Michigan played a good game defensively and still could have lost the game...same goes for USC. When USC needed to they came with the drive to put themselves ahead and played D on the next series to close out the game. Michigan held on in the same way...both teams could have lost if their opponents had executed...but it didn't happen in either game. 7 point wins for each school and both stay undefeated for the time being.
Look we can go on and on about this and it doesn't matter. Manningham is out...so are two of USC top three receivers and top 3 full backs.
Penn St was playing with it's #3 QB who was probably getting more reps at practice pretending he was Henne than he gets with running his own team's offense...and was in position to get him team within striking range to tie the game.
See this is a no win argument until the teams get on the field and play each other, it is a mute point, but one i'll gladly go point for point with. Not saying anything particular about the folks in this board, but anyone east of the Rockies doesn't know a darn thing about West Coast Football because you are all asleep when we are playing. All you hear is the bias coming the "impartial" new services that need to reassure fans that the east coast is where the best teams are...while in all actuality that isn't the truth. Why are people so shocked when West coast teams come to the east coast and win? Why are people so shocked when east coast teams come to the west and lose? It is not shocking to those of us who follow west coast football, because year in and year out it is just as good, if not better than what is played in the Big 10, Big 12, SEC or Big East.
In reference to this Poll, really when it comes down to it who cares who is #2? Ohio St. is #1 and before all is said and done Michigan will get their shot at them. If they win, then they deserve to be #1. If USC wins out, they will be in the Title game, easy as that and then the teams will decide who is #2.
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Post by GalactiKing on Oct 16, 2006 9:40:55 GMT -5
Well I'll go different and go with WV as they're smashing everyone right now.
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Post by bmurderh8s on Oct 16, 2006 10:17:15 GMT -5
To be honest, the Big Ten doesnt need respect from the west coast or any coast for that matter. It's the oldest conference in college football and sports arguably the most tradition out of any existing conference. Teams have had trouble on the west coast, but Pac 10 teams have also had trouble playing on other teams' home turf.
USC is tough to say. They've looked unimpressive and have had to squeak out victories against competition that frankly...shouldn't be able to beat them or even keep it close.
Most of the Pac 10 teams, besides from USC haven't played anybody. Cal got roasted by Tenn and Oregon probably didn't beat Oklahoma. Besides from USC, their most impressive teams, Cal and Oregon don't look like they could beat other top teams in the country. (Ie the Cal/Tenn game and the Oklahoma/Oregon game)
Putting WV at no. 2 is a huge stretch. Their offense is strong but their defense if you watch it, is not on par with some of the better teams in the nation. Don't let your judgement be skewed by their margin of victory over cupcakes. They can't beat OSU, USC, Florida, Michigan or probably even Aurburn. At least I don't think so.
Michigan is No. 2 because of that defense. And if you don't believe it, watch the Penn St. game and take a gander at the 7 sacks and the -14 rushing yards allowed.
Happy valley was the loudest game I have watched thi syear. Those fans were out of control. That win again Penn St. was impressive.
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Post by bmurderh8s on Oct 16, 2006 10:22:41 GMT -5
Pac 10 fans amaze me. They think teams in the midwest want or need the west coasts respect. Besides from USC in recent years, the PAC 10 has been garbage. Flat out.
The TD Mich gave up late was a garbage TD. At no point afterwards did Penn St. at all threaten to tie it up. Happy Valley is a tough place to play and it was louder then hell there. Michigan was able to pull it out. USC doesn't have a win in a hostile enviroment like that. You can bring up Arkansas, but the stadium at no point was anywhere near as loud at Happy Valley.
I catch Pac 10 games every now and then. They're all offense with little defense. That gives the appearance of a dominent team. But thats the reason USC didn't win last years NC. Their defense couldn't hold. Plus giving up a 21-0 lead is a lot worse looking then being up 17-3 and giving up a TD with 3 minutes to go.
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Post by bmurderh8s on Oct 16, 2006 10:25:31 GMT -5
Basically, you can kick someones rear all over the stadium for 58 minutes, but if you let them stay in it and have the ball within striking range...that is not a dominating performance. It is a win by a TD. You guys are crapping all over USC for doing the exact same thing against Arizona St....Did USC Domiante...early on yes they did 21 - 0. Michigan was up early as well. Did Arizona St. get back into the game? Yes they did and so did Penn St. Did both teams win by 7 points? YEP. Who cares how many yards they gave up rushing...Michigan played a good game defensively and still could have lost the game...same goes for USC. When USC needed to they came with the drive to put themselves ahead and played D on the next series to close out the game. Michigan held on in the same way...both teams could have lost if their opponents had executed...but it didn't happen in either game. 7 point wins for each school and both stay undefeated for the time being. . Oh, by the way, Michigan went into No.2 Notre Dame and kicked them right in the crotch. Another reason why they are prolly No. 2. |
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Post by Mad Dog on Oct 16, 2006 10:30:45 GMT -5
West Virginia also hasn't played anyone. Maryland is about it for big time opponents.
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Post by bmurderh8s on Oct 16, 2006 10:35:13 GMT -5
In the end, WV is going to end up screwed out of the NC game. You can already see it with the BCS rankings. Strength of schedule, although not the biggest part of the computers, still factors in. PLus if your basing SoS on maryland, you're in for a whole world of hurt. Even Lousiville and Rutgers probably won't help all that much. Sucks to play in the Big East.
And, what of the loser of the Mich and OSU game? Do they get the Rose Bowl Bid? I had heard the tournament of roses wants the loser of that game and if they dont get it they may back out of the BCS. Considering they currently aren't happy with it after the fiasco in 2005 with Texas/Michigan. I felt California deserved to be in that game and actually thought that would be a better matchup. But considering how everything turned out, I don't know anything.:-)
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Post by bmurderh8s on Oct 16, 2006 10:40:04 GMT -5
One last thing I promise. How good does Mich's win over Wisconsin look? They've been destroying other Big Ten teams left and right. They could very well be the No. 3 team in the conference. And I was wondering, does OSU have them on their schedule this year? or did they luck out?
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Post by GOODZILLA on Oct 16, 2006 12:46:31 GMT -5
Ohio States remaining schedule .... Indiana Minnesota at Illinois at Northwestern so they will easily run the table until the UNDISPUTED #2 RANKED (just razin ya Pete  ) MICHIGAN WOLVERINES invade Columbus on November 18th. |
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Post by incognito on Oct 16, 2006 12:52:28 GMT -5
despite the fact your Wolverines ended my Badgers undefeated hopes; I'll say your number #2, and good luck against Ohio.
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Post by bmurderh8s on Oct 17, 2006 11:04:19 GMT -5
Wisconsin looks pretty good this year and could go 11-1. Too bad they aren't getting nay pub because of OSU and Mchigan's run.
As far as USC goes, i don't think anybody is crapping all over them. I think they are just syaing they don't believe they are the no. 2 team. Rather the no.3 or 4 team.
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Post by Dale on Oct 17, 2006 17:04:57 GMT -5
i would love to see any Pac10 school or florida school say go to Wisconsin on the first weekend in December. Wisconsin wins, this would be an even more lopsided loss for any pac 10 school in ann arbor or columbus. Or any SEC school later in the year, LSU in late november or early december history for the PAC 10, same if they would ocme to Tennessee or Auburn, etc...
Now I think that the GAME will also be in the national championship as either Michigan or Ohio State go with one loss to face the winner of the GAME.
okay the last part is an attempt at BCS joke.
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Post by bmurderh8s on Oct 18, 2006 10:17:54 GMT -5
if everything falls into place, this years Michigan/Ohio St. game will rival the snow bowl game and even the 10-10 tie from the early 70's.
The hype has already started, I can't even imagine how huge ESPN and other sport networks are gonna be pushing this game on Nov 18. My god..I'm on pins and needles already.
Maybe this year could be the begginning of a new era in the rivalry where both teams are really good at the same time. Leading to many top 5 showdowns between the teams. That would be very cool.
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) MICHIGAN WOLVERINES invade Columbus on November 18th.
