OK GROUP HUDDLE THIS MEANS EVERYBODY.

[traviz]

adamsmasher said:

I voted "no". I wouldn't mind it getting an update, but I don't think it should be dumped all together. I think it is cool that a wrestler has options on those rolls, either go with the printed move and kow you'll hit it but not sure how bad or go for some other move that may not work but has a better chace at paying off. Personally I don't see a reason for having Level 2 moves on the chart because most of us will go for the Level 3 move, but that's just me.
Big Time

There are times when it's more advantageous to go for a lvl 2 move, for instance Tristan isn't going to go for a power move-3 against Monolith. He's better going for the agility based lvl-2 move.

[BDS]

What I do to get over the redundancy of them is just use the move that's listed on the card with the mechanic on the chart. Thantos has a Shoulder Breaker on his card with a Ch on it, for example, and when I roll it, I go to the chart and play like the rules say. I just decide that whatever I pick for him is a shoulder breaker, it's just delivered with different effectiveness and potential for failure against different opponents.

I personally don't mind the offensive wrestler's PW and AG directly figuring into the roll, either. On a well-designed card, they're compensated for by the choice and placement of the Ch's. That's not something that sets of my anal-retentive radar the way "bite to face" and DEATH AFTER DEATH do.

[Darth Turkish]

All right, what is wrong with DEATH AFTER DEATH?

[BDS]

turkish said:

All right, what is wrong with DEATH AFTER DEATH?

I can't picture it in my head. Rage applies some sort of submission after the Paralyzer, but according to the rules of the game Paralyze should be the legal man in the ring after the move, not Rage. It doesn't make sense to me.

[Darth Turkish]

bigdaddyswank said:

turkish said:

All right, what is wrong with DEATH AFTER DEATH?

I can't picture it in my head. Rage applies some sort of submission after the Paralyzer, but according to the rules of the game Paralyze should be the legal man in the ring after the move, not Rage. It doesn't make sense to me.

Yeah, I have the same problem with it. I cannot imagine it in my head.

Maybe Rage applies a standing kata getame (arm triangle choke) and as the opponetn is going out he tosses him to Paralyze who scoops him up for the muscle buster?

Or maybe Rage applies the double hammer lock, Paralyze comes over, guillotines and cranks the opponent's neck as he picks him up for the muscle buster?

Just a few suggestions.. I have Rage and Havoc teamed right now and Rage applies the double hammerlock as Havoccomes from behind, and uses Rage as a base, to literally swing in on the opponent's neck and hit an impant reverse DDT. Pretty sweet!