emotional responses are the chasis 4 immac?

[DUCE]

Take your vitamin M and attent that church of xyienctology or... you know not troll and act like a tool. Seems pretty easy to make fun or hate people who actually put a good measure of thought and creativity in their posts to make a top ten then to actually do it yourself. This is why I don't like an undeserving blow to someones legacy. Something guys like Dana White do. So I am going to bash him back when he acts like a baby about not getting Fedor or having problems with Randy. If you think White's legacy trumps all of the fighters who are making him money you are a tool.

[habbalah]

 So I am going to bash him back when he acts like a baby about not getting Fedor or having problems with Randy.  

I'll be waiting. I thought my first top ten was pretty good for being on the fly. I forget Matt Lindland. I will go cry now. I kinda hate Matt Lindland, but it was a mistake. Hell I enjoyed the list more with out him so I'm keeping it that way.

As for legacy shots you never did Answer Whites question I keep asking you?

IF Josh Barnette is such a great fighter how come he's not working in mma right now? I mean it's a damn fine question?

[DUCE]

habbalah said:

By the way Duce.. I'm not a troll I believe what I'm saying.
8 Ninja (BWHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHA) okay that was trolling. .. (sniffs) ninja in a top ten.. or even on a waiting list to get into top ten? BWAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHA. I'm running out of names so I guess he gets a spot.
9 Dean (time to go to the bathroom cause a dean lister fight is on) Lister.
10 That other borrowing fighter who beat Dean Lister that never got aired.. marquete?... It doesn't matter what his name is! (thanks Rock).

Oh Damn I forgot Okami.... and Mcdonald.. alright lets kick ninja of the weighting list and put mcdonald there. Thanks your a life savor Whew.

Okami's easily in the top 5. And like I said Robbie should be a bit lower.

[DUCE]

joshbarnett.proelite.com/
Watch inside MMA he is working in MMA.

[habbalah]

I hate specail dark.

So Pilgrim what do you need now? Oh and just in case you missed it... I was nice enough to post it one more time.

IF Josh Barnette is such a great fighter how come he's not working in mma right now? I mean it's a damn fine question?

So he has a fight booked? I mean technically Randy's still involved in mma if you want to be like that. He's trainning people. How come he's not fighting.

[DUCE]

Enjoy TUF 6

Any predictions other then Rickson by armbar?

[DUCE]

question already awnsered he is working in MMA(managing a team in the phillipines and working out a Fedor fight for the middle of 08) and he has steady work as a pro wrestler in Japan since he defeated Randy and popped(meaning he has a steady job thats why he isn't jumping at contracts).

[habbalah]

I have no use for the gracies (save Ryan. He's my kinda scum).

I'm picking Huerta over Clay... But I really like both fighters. I was shocked that Clay beat ...(I sware I'm not trolling) that one bjj guy that beat Gomi... I always forget his name.. and I'm being to lazy to see it on fight finder.

Before I saw the fight I just assumed the ufc screwed him. Guida really took the fight to him.

[habbalah]

 Wrestling Observer is reporting the UFC is stripping Sherk of the LW title.

Merry Christmas Duce. Tell me that don't make you smile? Now stop wailing on Dana's nuts.

Why because he plays up the bad guy role

Oh come on.. Sometimes it's fun to chear a jerk or two on. I recall him being a punk to the ref after beating mr 100 percent in Pride me and all my friends where laughing. Hell it made the fight. Shockwave 2004?

Besides he did beat Inconsistant the can Minowa.. The (Giggles) ace of Bushido..bwhahahahahaha oh God.. that always kills me.

If it makes you feel better I have no use for Yvel.. so I don't like all the jerks in mma.

[habbalah]

Ahem,
www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=10289

Sherk stripped of the title.
The words you were looking for Duce sound like "I'm sorry, my all powerful, all knowing, bald beautiful high potent Dana White.. for ever doubting your awesome sage like wisdom!"

White did the right thing, man up.

[DUCE]

By no longer believing in Sherk. Some passive aggressive leadership once again.

Minowa=big draw in Japan. 8-3 since the beginning of 2006. His training gets news coverage and promotes the card. If there was a game that had promoting MMA you'd use Minowa to. He is not invincible, he has a large fan base, he promotes the card during training, mastered the toe hold, and is a veteran of over 50 fights.

[habbalah]

So in other words you were prepared to give Dana a hard time if he left sherk with the title or took it away?

I mean at least when I say I'm going to hate on Big Tim no matter what I come clean about it.

And I just like to rib on Minowa. I recall in the old days pride fans use to bust my balls when I suggest Tanner would beat him.

I'd be happy enough with in the ufc. Hell I'd mark out with a fight between him and Leben.. and I'd honestly be worried about him fighting Ed herman. It's fun to pick on a guy who talks about wrestling four armed aliens okay? Is that unreasonable?

[DUCE]

You kind of beat a dead horse with the repeated "but Minowa..." "Minowa vs. Cro Cop!". Four armed aliens and Japanese pop culture make him Minowa.

Now Dana and Tim can make turn arounds. I don't have complete hate for anyone. Arlovski is a joke to me. He lost to the biggest clown in Russia and then beat Vladdy. Is destroyed by Pedro and takes advantage of a WEAK heavyweight scene when UFC was bearly number 2 and is now considered an elite heavyweight. I've got little respect for his legacy but as a fighter he has come together.

With Sherk Dana was in a no win situation. Look at UFC's title picture and heavyweight division. The guys at inside MMA were all laughing and yuking it up over plastic regional titles but everyone of them(fighterwise) would stab a few people in the back to get that Serra recognition. That because UFC has solid weight classes that have been run well. If the division is ran into the ground or your champion looks like a fink you've got alot of work to do. So whos fault ultimately is it when Sherk test was botched, Randy doesn't like missing pay days or who he is fighting, Arlovski's contract, Fedor, and Pride being gutted -Dana White.

If handled himself better and didn't bash everyone he has a problem with. Maybe he could turn it around. Eitherway all of his pros can fall on other people( four people created the ultimate fighter series and Joel Silva) and cons on others(above mentioned contractual probelms).

In the end we have someone who counterdicts himself constantly. (Fedor is the best-Fedor SUCKS! Without you guys we wouldn't have made it! THOSE FANS ON THE INTERNET ARE SPREADING RUMORS AND RANDY BELIEVES IT! Sherk. His openning speach when Zuffa bought out UFC from SEG.) I don't like or trust him. What use does he have? If anything he is the elite fan. He hates agents but he himself was an agent to Tito Ortiz and Chuck Liddell! He has been around the sport forever but his vision is clouded with $$$. The only reason UFC is as big as it is now is its fighters, hardcore fans(the internet kind) and Spike TV. It has nothing to do with Dana White. Any MMA agent could do his job.

[habbalah]

  Pride being gutted -Dana White.

Um that was a good thing. I wanted Dana to do that. Is it possible if he ran both... the ufc and Pride might have both failed? Hmmm? Besides with the Neveda Athletic State commision breathing down Whites neck even if Pride did run.. it would have never been something you wanted.

You have alot balls Duce. I mean an insane amount.
You thinK Arlvoski sucks.. and than you come out and say "DANA WHITE Is ruining Arlovski!"

Okay... you should be happy. Correct me if I'm wrong.
You whine for the sake of whinning.

Besides... if it was part of the net fans fault that Randy left the UFC... it's not like you or anyone would man up about it. Have you ever seen a fight you wanted to see for years... and years.. finally happen.. come out and straight up suck?

Okay.. did you turn around and apoligize to the fight org that put it on after it happened? Or did you just complain for them not getting your fantasy match done right?

You complained.

I'm not calling Dana White a saint.. but I'll take his word over yours every day of the week and twice on sunday. (by the way one more chance to drop a duce (pun) but Xience isn't even sponsoring zuffa anymore).

Yeah... Find a new catch phrase.
And if you want to bring up Arlovski back in the day.
your Pride god Sakuraba lost to Kimo. Hay look Duce can use fight finder. Good job sure sheap.

Heaven forbid fighters grow. I guess Kongo's doomed to suck in Duce land for ever and ever because he lost to Yvel.

And it's not, "No you," it's "and you."

[DUCE]

habbalah said:

  Pride being gutted -Dana White.

Um that was a good thing. I wanted Dana to do that. Is it possible if he ran both... the ufc and Pride might have both failed? Hmmm? Besides with the Neveda Athletic State commision breathing down Whites neck even if Pride did run.. it would have never been something you wanted.

You have alot balls Duce. I mean an insane amount.
You thinK Arlvoski sucks.. and than you come out and say "DANA WHITE Is ruining Arlovski!"

Okay... you should be happy. Correct me if I'm wrong.
You whine for the sake of whinning.

Besides... if it was part of the net fans fault that Randy left the UFC... it's not like you or anyone would man up about it. Have you ever seen a fight you wanted to see for years... and years.. finally happen.. come out and straight up suck?

Okay.. did you turn around and apoligize to the fight org that put it on after it happened? Or did you just complain for them not getting your fantasy match done right?

You complained.

I'm not calling Dana White a saint.. but I'll take his word over yours every day of the week and twice on sunday. (by the way one more chance to drop a duce (pun) but Xience isn't even sponsoring zuffa anymore).

Yeah... Find a new catch phrase.
And if you want to bring up Arlovski back in the day.
your Pride god Sakuraba lost to Kimo. Hay look Duce can use fight finder. Good job sure sheap.

Heaven forbid fighters grow. I guess Kongo's doomed to suck in Duce land for ever and ever because he lost to Yvel.

And it's not, "No you," it's "and you."

Lets just go down your comments with corrections-

Boxercise agent with no amateur boxing record White wouldn't have to run Pride. Lorenzo Fertitta is a former NSAC commissioner. So they can breath on each other all they want. Again with the words in my mouth and yes I have balls. Arlovski has contractual problems and his legacy((so far)) sucks.

"Besides... if it was part of the net fans fault that Randy left the UFC... it's not like you or anyone would man up about it. "
LOL!!!! WHAAAAT! OH HELL NO! ;D You can't be serious. Randy Couture asked Wanderlei Silva, Shogun, and other what they are getting payed and they told him. If you honestly think Randy is that dense... to freak out because someone wrote that White was lieing to him when he asked him if he was the second highest payed guy in the UFC. I... I... don't know... you will defend him to a fault then. HE ASKED WANDERLEI SILVA! Its easy Wand's at his gymn. He asked him how much he is getting paid and then asked Dana. Dana then lied to his face.

You don't even know me and you wont know me. So big ho hum whatever on the "I'd trust Dana over you!" You don't have to trust me you would have to trust your favorite fighter Randy Couture.

There you go again looking for one of my "gods" because you can't handle the truth. No MMA fighter is my god.

Cry all you want you know the truth. I am starting to think my simple comments pointing out truths you don't wish to see are destroying the wonderful candyland full of shoots and ladders that you've painted your icons in.

[habbalah]

Wow and here I thought that might be hard to beat.

So Wanderlei who clearly is scared out of his mind of Randy Couture (which is why he wimped out and didn't fight Randy back in the day when he came out in the ufc with his big gold Pride belt) has no reason in the world to see Randy retire?

None? Not even a little? Because lets be honest.. If Randy couldn't pick up a win against Nog for the belt we could have easily seen Randy drop back down and fought the axe murdered for the belt (if Wandy picks it up down the road).....

Damn i'd give my left nut to see that fight. I never gave a damn about seeing Chuck vs Wandy.. I hate both those guys. Sadly when it happens I think I just might route for the axe murder because..... Well Chuck fans bother me more than pride elitists (LOL) There I said it. If I hear one more nut sack telling me how he'd take Fedor I'm gonna puke.

Now while Randy vs Fedor... and picking Randy as the winner would be a hard.. hard argument... Wandy vs Randy.. now thems some odds I'd argue for.

Hell even before Dan mopped the floor with the axe murder, Arona showed that Wandy's ground is his weak spot (I would used Tito's fight but you would have said to old to use as a good example). And I know Randy is at least as good as Arona (give or take a step).

You know that would been my ultimate fairwell Randy fight. Sorry to get off track... but I just realized how close it came to happening with Wanderlei finally coming to the ufc.

[DUCE]

habbalah said:

Wow and here I thought that might be hard to beat.

So Wanderlei who clearly is scared out of his mind of Randy Couture (which is why he wimped out and didn't fight Randy back in the day when he came out in the ufc with his big gold Pride belt) has no reason in the world to see Randy retire?

None? Not even a little? Because lets be honest.. If Randy couldn't pick up a win against Nog for the belt we could have easily seen Randy drop back down and fought the axe murdered for the belt (if Wandy picks it up down the road).....

Damn i'd give my left nut to see that fight. I never gave a damn about seeing Chuck vs Wandy.. I hate both those guys. Sadly when it happens I think I just might route for the axe murder because..... Well Chuck fans bother me more than pride elitists (LOL) There I said it. If I hear one more nut sack telling me how he'd take Fedor I'm gonna puke.

Now while Randy vs Fedor... and picking Randy as the winner would be a hard.. hard argument... Wandy vs Randy.. now thems some odds I'd argue for.

Hell even before Dan mopped the floor with the axe murder, Arona showed that Wandy's ground is his weak spot (I would used Tito's fight but you would have said to old to use as a good example). And I know Randy is at least as good as Arona (give or take a step).

You know that would been my ultimate fairwell Randy fight. Sorry to get off track... but I just realized how close it came to happening with Wanderlei finally coming to the ufc.

LOL!!! You are such a troll! Are you kidding me? Its went from "I wouldn't be man enough to admit I started the rumor that poisoned Randy's mind" to "WANDERLEI FEARS RANDY SO HE IS AT FAULT!!!" Randy wouldn't even have to talk to Wanderlei he can talk to Wanderlei's agent through his agent. Who knows maybe they have the same agent?

Yeah, sure Wanderlei ducked Randy Couture. See Wanderlei's website and past articles on how he ducks fights. Okay this is better no more lame personal attacks on me just you going off in a completely different direction because Wanderlei Silva is still considered elite and is headlining the biggest UFC show of the year against the most popular UFC fighter.


Your thinking is WEIRD XYCIENCE!

[habbalah]

Well ge he's been ducking Tito for years. He ducked Dan Handerson for years till he finally ran out of bs exscuses not to fight him.

Tel me duce how long did it take Arona to get his title shot? Because he had to wait behind greats like MINOWA FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! Your such a tool.

Tell you what.. if Wanderlei wins the belt and fights Alesia Sakura (the guy who got knocked out by Housten) will you admit he has a fixation for fighting cans?

Hell the man was already trying to get a fight with Forrest.

And besides if you want another personal attack.. I dont' see why you should even be aloud to watch Wanderlei vs Chuck if Dana white sucks so bad.

I'm sure you would been waiting here to complain about the fight if it never happened like it was all Dana's fault... but now that it's going down.. did you thank Dana even once?
Course not.

[habbalah]

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Hay look.. we use to talk like civil fans. Maybe your not the same guy i use to post with (kidding).

Duce

I could see Ninja and Randy going at it. Unless Pride's still got a contract on him then Ninja would be fighting from mid to top.

MAgog

think the first time I saw Ninja lose was to fellow team quest member Dan Handerson( least I think that's the guys name), so yeah that would be a great fight.


God I loved that fight.
Objectively, Duce... Can you honestly tell me Ninja has been improving or getting worse from what you've seen?

I'll give credit.. he's always been well rounded in mma when that was a rare find. Maybe even more than Wanderlei...
But the day of being well rounded.. isn't a gift anymore.. it's almost the standard.

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The old Dana hatred burns.
Duce
which is why I route for Tito and for Tito to get this match
down with Dana  


DUCE
Otsuka isn't a jobber  

BWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH oh God... have mercy. No mas, no mas!

The man who has the balls to giggle at Housten Alexender losing, use to champion that can. You know what's sick guys? Duce isn't trolling on that one..he honest to God thinks of the diet butcher as real talent. Mfff.

Oh you haven't said pony boy in years. Why did you ever decide to stop using a priceless, ageless gem like that?

I mean technically is it because Wanderlei is now Dana's pony boy? Hmmmm?

[habbalah]

Oh yeah.. Vitors looking to return to the ufc. Thoughts?