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Post by gwffantrav on Apr 3, 2006 7:22:36 GMT -5
Just saw some posts and his name was under guest now.
Shame, I'll miss the Swarm/tafkaga feud. I guess Swarm will beat Plethador in a loser leaves town match now
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Post by thefamoustommyz on Apr 3, 2006 14:44:39 GMT -5
Wait...if they posted, and then the account was deleted, does that mean it then reverts to a "guest" post?
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Post by Chris Ingersoll on Apr 3, 2006 19:03:16 GMT -5
Yes, that is what causes this. The board sees posts made under a name that is not an active account and assumes it was posted by a guest, even though we've disabled that option everywhere.
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Post by Knapik on Apr 3, 2006 19:26:09 GMT -5
So when he comes back will he have lost his post count?
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Post by Chris Ingersoll on Apr 3, 2006 20:02:29 GMT -5
Yes.
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Post by canadianpittbull on Apr 4, 2006 12:23:14 GMT -5
I think it is sad that it has to come to this where people start leaving the boards because of someone or a group of someone's decide to use a pack mentality and basically usher someone off the boards. Making fun of someone through a fed on these boards and causing bedlam isn't my idea of reflecting a positive view of the Filsinger Community.
And maybe make others who are coming into the game(s) think twice about coming onto these boards. These boards are in a sad state of affairs as of late. Tafkaga and I may not have agreed on things but that doesn't give the right to ridicule or put down his ideas or opinions. I thought he was rather easy going and would come to agree with ones point or points when properly and positively explained.
I see no humour in fights that go on here, there is enough of this crap in the Real World much less to start here on these boards.
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Post by BrianU on Apr 4, 2006 12:31:28 GMT -5
Canadianpitbull, I echo your comments. It is very unfortunate that a thug mentality has set out to chase someone from the board.
I am curious who will be next, because, they will find someone else.
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Post by Knapik on Apr 4, 2006 13:02:55 GMT -5
I'm curious as to how old everyone who can't solve their own problems is? It is not the moderators job to cull anyone who dislikes someone else. They are doing a FINE job as they are now. After tafkaga found where Swarm worked and emailed his job trying to get him into trouble, how can anyone blame him further for disliking tafkaga?
I think what everyone is missing is the apparent instability of tafkaga. I'm sure he's a really nice guy, but he has reacted inappropriately several times, and it's overlooked because he has a hard time retorting when faced with Joe, Swarm, etc. Hell, I'm usually cheering for the underdog, but tafkaga's sensitivity is what is hurting the board, not Swarm's personality.
I HATE the mentality of "If you don't like it, leave", but you know the only thing that bothers me about this board? People's incessant whining about the state of the board. You want Swarm, gatekeeper, and Joe banned because what they do bothers you? Well you bother me.
And Swarm's Plethador is harmless if not worn out. You don't see humor in the silly internet fight going on? You don't have a sense of humor.
QUIT WHINING. GO TALK ABOUT WRESTLING. THINGS ARE GONNA BE OKAY.
Christ...
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Post by canadianpittbull on Apr 4, 2006 13:06:20 GMT -5
Canadianpitbull, I echo your comments. It is very unfortunate that a thug mentality has set out to chase someone from the board. I am curious who will be next, because, they will find someone else. Reminds me of a quote from the movie Enemy Below- "You cut the head off a snake, and it grows another one. You cut that one off, and you find another. You can't kill it, because it's something within ourselves. You can call it the enemy if you want to, but it's part of us; we're all men." A little dramatic but the underlining message is there.  |
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Post by Chris Ingersoll on Apr 4, 2006 14:08:59 GMT -5
"You cut the head off a snake, and it grows another one. You cut that one off, and you find another. You can't kill it, because it's something within ourselves. You can call it the enemy if you want to, but it's part of us; we're all men." A little dramatic but the underlining message is there. If the message is "the person speaking this has confused a snake with the mythical beast known as a hydra", then yes. When you cut off a snake's head, it dies. There isn't a creature on this planet higher on the evolutionary scale than "flatworm" that can regenerate it's head -- even a common "nightcrawler" can only regrow its tail. That's the price you pay for having a brain in the first place. But I didn't come here to talk about fundamental facts of biology... As I occasionally need others to remind me, you people are not children. I am for damn sure not your babysitter, and neither are the rest of the staff. If you want me to have any sympathy for your cause, then you need to act like the adults you claim to be. I went to bat for Gordon in December and temporarily banned Swarm (his subsequent "permanent ban" wasn't directly related to this issue; the original intent was always a one-week ban, which was enforced). I arbitrated email exchanges between them, and I had thought that the matter was closed, for better or for worse, when Gordon deleted his account (the first time). Then he came back. And I was glad to see it; I don't like seeing anyone leave this community, especially over something so petty and stupid. And indeed, it looked as if he and Swarm were getting along fairly well (or as well as could be expected), and any remaining public bickering between them seemed to be more in fun than in malice (Exhibit A: the "Invisible Users" thread in Off-topic Polls). To be honest, I have no idea what the hell happened (specifically) lately to cause things to regress, but they did. And this time, I couldn't see where Swarm or his buddies were in the wrong. If the first instances of trouble were caused by Swarm's total (and in many ways, unjustified) over-reaction to the WrestlingWars nonsense, then this time they were apparently caused by Gordon's over-reaction to something Swarm, Joe, or someone else said in a TNA thread, which possibly wasn't even directed at him in the first place. Like I said, it was hard for me to follow since it seemed to come out of nowhere (and I don't follow the TNA threads that closely anyway). So then we get Hawk's "new rule" thread and everything that happened there, the end result of which was apparently Gordon leaving. I also have no idea why Gordon decided to leave again, but if I had to guess it was because his side was finding no support from the mod staff (here's a useful tip: if you want someone to see things your way, calling their previous actions and judgement into question is a losing game plan). That's not "ganging up" -- that's giving up. |
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Post by Joe on Apr 4, 2006 15:03:27 GMT -5
I can only speak for myself, but I didn't try to "usher" Tafkaga off the board. Truthfully, once I log off of this board, that fool never enters my mind. I wish he had not left the board, though, as his borderline-insane ravings were somewhat entertaining.
The "thug mentality" that you two spoke about makes little to no sense. First of all, if you actually believe there is such a thing as an "Internet thug" then you have never met a real thug. Secondly, in a community as small as this, if four or five people disagree with someone's comments, what is "thug"-like about that? It just sounds to me like someone said something that was incorrect, or at least expressed a sentiment that was hard to understand, and people called him on it.
The whole "let's feel sorry for Tafkaga" thing is great. He is obviously lacking something in his own life, which is why he cries out for attention on this board like he does. As I asked him, why didn't he just stop posting and e-mail his friend(s) explaining why. His 12-paragraph exit post the first time around was stupid. He followed that up with his "I'm Back!!!" thread that had me laughing out loud as he explained that people better not push him, or he would leave the board again. After that, he proceeded to start several threads in which the topic was, well, himself.
Who gives a shit?
Face it, folks. Your boy, Taffy, has some serious problems. I hope he resolves them, so he can get back on here and kick out some more nonsensical rants.
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Post by canadianpittbull on Apr 4, 2006 22:44:45 GMT -5
I really hope this constant BS going on in these forums stops because ultimately it hurts Tom's company.
Case in point, I peruse the boards and I see a newcomer to the boards Splattercat already being attacked and judged because of how many posts he has on the boards. Also I have seen his posts as objective not attacking people in anyway but hey lets discourage others from participating thus sending out the message that unless your apart of the "Filsinger Circle of Friends" you have no place here.
Make people feel welcome, this backlash of anger and rage from so many on here needs to stop. Christ, we want people to come here and enjoy themselves instead of a witch hunt mentality from some on these boards. If you respond on the defensive against my post, obviously you must be in that minority.
Help nurture others who maybe new to these boards but are not new to the game. That also applies to those who are new to the product and these boards. I am sure there are others much like Splattercat who have been in the shadows lurking about reading and taking in the various discussions on the board(s).
Heck I would not want to join if I saw all the insanity running rampant through the boards. It is much like a zombie infection one gets bit and then another and then another. Ravenous some have become. I am just saying lets get it back on topic and enough with pro TNA or pro WWE garbage since we all sound like broken records. Get it together and be mindful of what you say and how you say it on these boards.
If your making a joke,show that by a smiley or that you are kidding. To just assume one will understand your meaning by simply posting makes your post come off as if your wanting to start some BS that is not needed on these boards. As it can be easily misunderstood (as I am sure some will miss the point here)
Hopefully people will understand that treating anyone like garbage regardless of whether they deserve it or not is and should not be tolerated by anyone. This goes for everyone and lets get these forums, especially the wrestling ones back to being productive and fun again.
Lets remember the real reasons we came here; to be apart of this Filsinger community.
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Post by offspring515 on Apr 4, 2006 23:40:41 GMT -5
By the same token some people are just far too sensitive. Pitbull, I made a joke in the videogame forum about you loving the new TNA game. It, in my mind, was a harmless jab. I wasn't putting you down, I wasn't saying you're wrong...it was a joke.
You responded by telling me to get off your ass. I felt that was a bit of an overreaction. You took it in a way I didn't intend. Now I COULD have put a smily face or a "j/k" in there...but are we all that coddled? Do we need an applause sign or a laugh track in daily life? Can't humor and sarcasm have a place without it being taken as some personal attack?
Generally when a group of men get together they can joke around. It's a big part of how we tend to communicate. I don't see anything wrong with it so long as it's not overly mean spirited.
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Post by Knapik on Apr 4, 2006 23:46:14 GMT -5
Well put, offspring.
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Post by tenzan on Apr 5, 2006 0:02:53 GMT -5
This is a trouble on a lot of boards -- some people not knowing when others are being sarcastic. That's why it's just good manners to put a smiley face or "lol". It's not the humor that puts a lot of people off -- it's not knowing you well enough to know if you're taking a jab or just doing some good natured ribbing. I don't really know what all of this is about but I see a lot of talk of people being sensitive -- just making yourself clear when you're joking around helps a lot to prevent folks from taking it wrong. Most of the time when there's problems the fault falls some on both sides.
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Post by offspring515 on Apr 5, 2006 0:06:17 GMT -5
Well why not just ban jokes altogether if we have to slap a bunch of smiley faces or lol's after each one?
Someone else mentioned spoonfeeding those who don't get it...I think this would be applicable here as well.
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Post by canadianpittbull on Apr 5, 2006 0:07:39 GMT -5
Amen to that Chang, thank you someone who gets it.
Not knowing you and seeing your and others "handiwork" on these boards as of late offspring, automatically gets me into the defensive. How is one not suppose to know where you or any others are coming from. It is not about coddling anyone it has to do with being mindful, as I has stated in a post.
There is all this talk about being men,yet all I keep hearing from are boys trying to be men. Knock off the personal attacks. I don't have any issue with anyone and I would like to keep it that way. Show respect to me and I will with you.
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Post by tenzan on Apr 5, 2006 0:12:58 GMT -5
Well why not just ban jokes altogether if we have to slap a bunch of smiley faces or lol's after each one? Someone else mentioned spoonfeeding those who don't get it...I think this would be applicable here as well. You missed the point here, friend -- other people don't necessarily know you well enough to know when your joking, especially if your style of humor is a dry or sarcastic one -- they also can't hear your tone or see your facial expressions. Thing about good natured joking is its supposed to be for the amusement of the joker as well as the reader -- if the reader can't tell whether or not you're joking, you might as well not attempt it. Using a ;D or when you're ribbing someone is just good board manners. |
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Post by Knapik on Apr 5, 2006 0:22:42 GMT -5
What your saying makes a lot of sense, Chang. At the same time, however, I would say it's not the person joking at fault, but rather the person taking offense to the joke. While they may be unable to differentiate, and it may be courteous to help that along, I find it hard to fault the good-natured person.
Some people are very sensitive to not just sarcasm, but people disagreeing with them - this is evident on the pro wrestling forums. I feel this is for them to overcome, not for the good-natured to be forced into a coddling situation. I myself am rather impatient with this sort of sensitivity, so I'm a bit biad here.
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Post by tenzan on Apr 5, 2006 0:30:19 GMT -5
Not about coddling -- just about good manners. Seems that's what this thread is about, so I thought I'd put in my 2 cents based on experience on other boards. What I see are some poeple faulting others for being sensitive. Just saying it usually works 2 ways. Some people are sensitive -- often because of misunderstandings. The joker and the reader can both prevent misunderstandings by following a couple simple rules -- 1) Don't take it for granted that what you write will accurately reflect your tone or be automatically understood as a joke. 2) Don't jump to conclusions that the posts are meant to offend. Saves everyone a lot of trouble when these guidelines are followed.
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