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Post by Vidtek on Sept 27, 2006 17:55:40 GMT -5
I hate to do this as I am not one for censorship in any form, but I must suggest that the TNA portions of this board be closed. Permanently. If someone wishes to discus TNA they should find elsewhere to do it. These boards are not friendly to TNA and almost every thread in that area ends the same way, one promoter arguing "TNA sucks" and others trying to defend themselves only to be shot down. We can not actively discus TNA in peace and as such the TNA forums should be shut down.
And it really sucks that I think this way as I like some of the wrestlers in TNA, but this board is no longer friendly to anyone pro-TNA. Shut it down.
Big Time
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Post by traviz on Sept 27, 2006 18:10:14 GMT -5
I agree.
Oh, and while we're at it shut down the bootleggers forum too. Who do they think they are with they're super stacked cards.
Fed Forum? Get rid of it. People's feelings might get hurt if someone pokes fun of them.
The GWF section gets intense, too. Lock it up before it gets out of hand.
aCe is fine. Wait, someone said that CPC is better. Squash it.
Chris, Paul, WTIC, Trav...put the brakes to this rollercoaster...for the love of god!!!!
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Post by blueraider1 on Sept 27, 2006 18:37:58 GMT -5
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Post by LWPD on Sept 27, 2006 18:42:36 GMT -5
No offense Adam Smasher but this discussion board doesn't 'have to be' friendly toward TNA or anything else for that matter. If you don't feel you get any value from the time you spend participating in the TNA Forum then by all means feel free not to participate. For better or worse I'm confident the TNA Forum can survive without your stellar insights and prescient analysis.
Yet to suggest that something myself and others enjoy should be 'taken away from us' just because it doesn't meet 'your' personally standards is...regardless of your intentions... inconsiderate and disrespectful. While I respect that you have a right not to enjoy the TNA Forums...I'd kindly ask you refrain from making public posts about removing a forum I enjoy contributing toward and participating in.
LWPD (there's quite a few things I've read on this forum over the years which I've found to be stupid, inane and mindless...while possessing absolutely no substantive value whatsoever...but at the end of the day one has to respect that different posters have different intrinsic motives, values and interests...and just move on...there's no need or 'right' to 'delete' the tone, interests or topics of discussion of those whom we see little value in)
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Post by Vidtek on Sept 27, 2006 18:49:20 GMT -5
No look seriously folks. I'm not saying that the problem stems from people getting made fun off in a few threads or whatever, or that diffrent oppinions are a bad thing. All I am saying is that the TNA forums are nothing more than a real breeding ground for flame wars and spite!
I have no problems with bootlegs. Just becasue one rather proficiant poster and his buddies have that problem does not make them wrong. I have no problems with the fed forums. I have no problem with ANY part of this board becasue the other parts of this board at least can have inteligent disscusion! On the TNA boards, almost EVERY GORRAM THREAD ends in Swarm's predictible "This stuff sucks, why do you want it to succeed?" and the inevitble decline from there. Nearly every one! And I for one think it's time that forum be shut down to prevent anymore animosity growing from there. I'm looking to stop flame fights, not shut down the whole boards. Give me a break I like this place. It serves a purpose. The TNA boards however no longer do.
Big Time
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Post by thefamoustommyz on Sept 27, 2006 18:59:28 GMT -5
I have no problems with bootlegs. Just becasue one rather proficiant poster and his buddies have that problem does not make them wrong. Isn't that rather applicable to the TNA boards? |
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Post by Vidtek on Sept 27, 2006 19:00:39 GMT -5
And paint, you enjoy having a fed run down at every turn? You enjoy hainvg all discussion grind to a screaching halt at the behest of one single poster and his predictable statements? You like to read page after page after page of "No, this sucks and you suck," "No you suck," "No I think this all sucks," "But you said I suck," "No I said this sucks," "No you didn't!," "I agree with the first guy," "STRONG!". You like that? Then by all means lets keep it open. And you're right. I won't be there anymore. There is no reason to go. After all, I want to talk about TNA and how much I enjoy IT, not try and defend it to someone who wants it dead.
Big Time
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Post by Splattercat on Sept 27, 2006 19:10:57 GMT -5
Okay, AdamSmasher, I know you're not liking the TNA threads right now, but...Well, this is coming from someone who's more often than not in the middle of what you just described, so I think you should hear me out... We had a more than harsh weekend what with the TNA pay per view and all...But, I think we need to give the mods a chance... And Holy crap, did you just say Gorram..?? That's so awesome..!!! Dude, see if you can figure out my quote ... ;D Anyway, before I ramble I'll get to the point...Things have quieted down a bit, I mean, look at the nonsense in the General Discussion board...Hell even Payback's in there, and you know what, he's more than welcome to partake in our nonsense...  We had a harsh weekend like I said, but things have lightened up...You know, it's exactly what I've been saying in the TNA boards about Kurt Angle...I think instead of writing it off, we should just give it a couple weeks...Maybe....Three or four...And see what happens... |
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Post by Matt on Sept 27, 2006 20:04:14 GMT -5
Listen to Traviz and LWPD - they're dead on.
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Post by gwffantrav on Sept 27, 2006 23:38:59 GMT -5
Yeah, I mean TNA fans should be rejoicing this week! I really think they got their attention from many mainstream fans with the signing of Angle.
I'd ignore all the detractors.
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Post by offspring515 on Sept 28, 2006 6:10:26 GMT -5
Kurt Angle's signing really does give TNA the chance to be on par with the WWE by having a main event star die while under contract to them.
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Post by Vidtek on Sept 28, 2006 7:05:19 GMT -5
OK, so maybe we could give it a few more weeks. I just hate the way the thread all seem to end up the same way. I'm not retracting my request, just maybe leave it be for now. But I still say that if it doesn't clear up some sort of action to be taken.
Big Time
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Post by Mad Dog on Sept 28, 2006 7:23:31 GMT -5
There's really only one problem with the TNA folder and that's Swarm. Everyone else in there is pretty reasonable for the most part. There are some different opinions on things.
But he goes in there for one reason and one reason only and that's to derail threads and just ruin the discussion for everyone else. Just look at what happened over the weekend. Huge news for TNA and he was totall irrational about it by the time all that stuff was closed. He has 2 ways in which he operates in that folder 1. try to make the topic about the WWE and 2. to make something up and then stick to that as a fact no matter how much debunking goes on thus ruining another thread. Plus half of his weekend posts were just wastes of space. It was just a quote of the previous post with some stupid strong phrase or some other garbage.
He seems to act ok for the most part in other areas of the board but he trolls when he goes in there. So maybe some type of agreement can be reached in that area. I don't know other than he is definately the problem in that situation.
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Post by Joe on Sept 28, 2006 8:32:08 GMT -5
I have no problems with bootlegs. Just becasue one rather proficiant poster and his buddies have that problem does not make them wrong. Isn't that rather applicable to the TNA boards? I'm quoting this because it is not applicable to the TNA boards over the weekend. Following the announcement that Kurt Angle had signed with TNA, there were several people, not just "one proficient poster and his buddies," that seemed to find fault with the move. Chris even agreed with what I said about the signing of Angle, and if Mr. Ingersoll agrees with something said about TNA, then it cannot just be blasting of TNA for the sake of blasting. I do not understand why people are so upset that the TNA threads became heated the way they did. That is the type of reaction TNA was shooting for with the signing of Angle. TNA's signing Kurt Angle is controversial in every sense of the word. In any other sport, if a superstar of Angle's level was released from a team because he had well-known drug problems (but for the sake of realism, had not failed any tests) and career-threatening injuries, only to picked up by another team a month later, the reactions from people on this board would pale in comparison to the media firestorm and special-interest circus that would surround the signing. Getting rid of the TNA boards would be a horrible idea, because it basically sends the message that your contributions are not wanted if they are not in total harmony and agreement with those of everyone else. By the way, I would like to point out this is the second thread that has popped up since Swarm's banning in which he is the main topic or a heavily-featured part. Just like last time. |
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Post by bmurderh8s on Sept 28, 2006 8:35:21 GMT -5
Shutting down the TNA section wouldn't change a thing. The suff would just end up happening in another section, probably the WWE threads. So if you're gonna shut down the TNA section, you should shut down the rest of the real world wrestling section. It's not fair to TNA and the TNA fans that are a member of the board.
If you really want to stop the crap, you need to stop the persons causing the crap. And that goes for everyone on both sides. Shutting the TNA boards would be punishing everyone for the faults of a few, and although life is not fair, there is probably a better solution to the problem. And I'm sure the moderators will figure out what the best solution is on their own. I have faith in the discussion board gods...
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Post by Vidtek on Sept 28, 2006 8:40:10 GMT -5
Isn't that rather applicable to the TNA boards? I'm quoting this because it is not applicable to the TNA boards over the weekend. Following the announcement that Kurt Angle had signed with TNA, there were several people, not just "one proficient poster and his buddies," that seemed to find fault with the move. Chris even agreed with what I said about the signing of Angle, and if Mr. Ingersoll agrees with something said about TNA, then it cannot just be blasting of TNA for the sake of blasting. I do not understand why people are so upset that the TNA threads became heated the way they did. That is the type of reaction TNA was shooting for with the signing of Angle. TNA's signing Kurt Angle is controversial in every sense of the word. In any other sport, if a superstar of Angle's level was released from a team because he had well-known drug problems (but for the sake of realism, had not failed any tests) and career-threatening injuries, only to picked up by another team a month later, the reactions from people on this board would pale in comparison to the media firestorm and special-interest circus that would surround the signing. Getting rid of the TNA boards would be a horrible idea, because it basically sends the message that your contributions are not wanted if they are not in total harmony and agreement with those of everyone else. Ok, that's a good point. And if these problems only came up becasue of last weekend's announcement then it wouldn't be so bad becasue it would indeed be the type of response TNA would welcome. HOWEVER this has been going on basically since the inception of the TNA section of the boards. And nearly every thread has at least one page dedicated to the whole "This Sucks," "No it doesn't," "Yes it does" "STRONG" line of discussion. If it was just about Angle I wouldn't have even brought it up, but it's about how a few people see fit to go into a section of the board specifically to make trouble and I for one think they shouldn't be given the chance. Now does it suck that those of us who DO like TNA and wish to see it grow and prosper might have to find a ew place to talk about it? Yes, but in the intrest of keeping the flame wars down I think it's a worthy sacrifice. Just call me the fireman. Big Time. |
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Post by Splattercat on Sept 28, 2006 8:45:05 GMT -5
I personally feel no need to get into this any further...You all know my opinion on the matter, so I won't say it again unless someone missed it or wants me to expand on it...Same goes for Joe's last statement, which with me could mean one of two things....
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Post by Chris Ingersoll on Sept 28, 2006 9:20:32 GMT -5
Shutting down the TNA section wouldn't change a thing. The suff would just end up happening in another section, probably the WWE threads. So if you're gonna shut down the TNA section, you should shut down the rest of the real world wrestling section. It's not fair to TNA and the TNA fans that are a member of the board. If you really want to stop the crap, you need to stop the persons causing the crap. And that goes for everyone on both sides. Shutting the TNA boards would be punishing everyone for the faults of a few, and although life is not fair, there is probably a better solution to the problem. And I'm sure the moderators will figure out what the best solution is on their own. I have faith in the discussion board gods... Without going into details, I agree with this pretty much in its entirety, especially the "both sides" part (although maybe not so much the "gods" part  ). We can not and will not close the TNA boards without closing the entire "real wrestling" forum area. The former is simply not an option we're considering, and the latter seems like burning down the forest unnecessarily because of one or two problematic trees. Splattercat, this problem won't be solved in 3-4 weeks. But I'd like to think it can/will be solved in 7-8, one way or the other. Thank you all for your input. |
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Post by bmurderh8s on Sept 28, 2006 10:03:13 GMT -5
Shutting down the TNA section wouldn't change a thing. The suff would just end up happening in another section, probably the WWE threads. So if you're gonna shut down the TNA section, you should shut down the rest of the real world wrestling section. It's not fair to TNA and the TNA fans that are a member of the board. If you really want to stop the crap, you need to stop the persons causing the crap. And that goes for everyone on both sides. Shutting the TNA boards would be punishing everyone for the faults of a few, and although life is not fair, there is probably a better solution to the problem. And I'm sure the moderators will figure out what the best solution is on their own. I have faith in the discussion board gods... Without going into details, I agree with this pretty much in its entirety, especially the "both sides" part (although maybe not so much the "gods" part ). We can not and will not close the TNA boards without closing the entire "real wrestling" forum area. The former is simply not an option we're considering, and the latter seems like burning down the forest unnecessarily because of one or two problematic trees. Splattercat, this problem won't be solved in 3-4 weeks. But I'd like to think it can/will be solved in 7-8, one way or the other. Thank you all for your input. It's only by your benevolent will that us disconssion boardites are allowed to exist. |
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Post by Chris Ingersoll on Sept 28, 2006 10:06:20 GMT -5
I have a benevolent will? News to me...  |
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). We can not and will not close the TNA boards without closing the entire "real wrestling" forum area. The former is simply not an option we're considering, and the latter seems like burning down the forest unnecessarily because of one or two problematic trees.