REVENGE of the SITH

[Swarm]

I have to say I really, really, liked this movie. Now, I am not the guy who collects the toys, or dresses up for the premier, but I am a pretty big Star Wars fan...I had really been looking forward to this movie and I think it was just about perfect.

My favorite part was finding out where the storm-troopers came from...that really surprised me.

But I have a few questions for anyone who may have read the books...

Tying Episode 3 and Episode 4 together:

I'm figuring there is about a 20 yr. span between the two?

How do Han Salo and Chewbacca hook up?

How do r2-d2 and C-3PO end up on tatooni? with the jawas?

Where is Boba Fett during all this?

Was the Death Star being built during this 20 or so yr. gap?

I'm sure I have a few more I just can't remember them right now.

Thanks.

[Gunslinger]

I've seen Luke and Leia being referred to as 18 at the time of Star Wars, so 18 years? The same source gives Han's age at the time as 27.

While in the Imperial Navy, Han saves Chewbacca from other Imps and gets himself kicked out in the process. Chewie latches on to Han because Han saved his life.

The ship R2 and 3PO are on in the beginning of Star Wars is Captain Antilles' ship. Senator Organa basically gave the droids to Antilles at the end of Ep3.

I'm told there's a series of young Boba Fett novels that tell his story at the time of Ep3, but I haven't read any of those.

As for the Death Star, I'm guessing it took a REALLY long time to figure out how to put it together properly. Hence, the pesky exhaust port.

[Swarm]

Cool. Thanks! I'm considering picking up some of these books.

[Gunslinger]

I had about 40 Star Wars novels at one point, but got rid of 90% of them when I was short on cash a few years ago. I kept the Han Solo trilogy by A.C. Crispin and some of the anthologies. I really enjoyed the Han Solo trilogy. It tells how he ends up with Chewbacca, where he gets the Millenium Falcon, even how he ends up in Mos Eisely in Ep4.

[baldue]

I've read the Han Solo books
and they are a good read...
I think with the episode III
we knew going in that this was
the fall of Anikin and the rise
of Lord Vader, and everything
else was background. I had no
problem with that, I would have
loved to see Solo or Bobo Fett...
but this was a good film.

[Nemecys on AOL]

I agree with the Han Solo books being excellent, not only for Solo's background, but for the background of the Rebellion itself (including the big battle that is talked about in the opening crawl of ep 4).

According to the books there's about 19 years between ep 3 and 4.

I find it interesting that it took the Empire about 19 years to create the first Death Star but only about 3 years to build the second (talk about leaps in technology!).

As for ep 3, I really enjoyed it, but the book is better. The movie seemed to jump too quickly from scene to scene in some parts.

I will say though that I could have easily sat through a 3-hour version of the move if they made the beginning space battle and Wookie battle longer.

Jay

[Chris Ingersoll]

Nemecys said:

I find it interesting that it took the Empire about 19 years to create the first Death Star but only about 3 years to build the second (talk about leaps in technology!).

The second time they clearly built the planet-destroying part FIRST, hence the half-finished look.

BTW, Nemecys, we can arrange it for you to access your account normally; just send one of the mod staff an email.

[More Palpatine]

Swarm said:

How do r2-d2 and C-3PO end up on tatooni? with the jawas?

In Episode IV they jettisoned an escape pod on the Tantive IV (the blockade runner) to avoid capture...Leia gave R2 a message to deliver to Obi Wan. They landed on Tatooine and while on the planet they were captured by Jawas.

[Nemecys X]

Chris,

What are the email adresses for the staff? I tried looking under their profiles but couldn't find them.

Thanks,

Jay

[Chris Ingersoll]

Nemecys said:

Chris,

What are the email adresses for the staff? I tried looking under their profiles but couldn't find them.

They're on the profile pages, but sort of hidden. Look for the envelope-looking icon under the avatar (in my case it's underneath my the AIM icon).

[Pete Beck]

Finally got a chance to see this movie today...I will tell you, I think it might be the best over all and definitely has me in the mood to go watch episodes IV - VI. While none of the saber fights quite matched Episode I's Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan vs. Darth Maul, the Obi-Wan vs. Ankin Battle was very good and the Obi-Wan vs. General Grievous was very good as well. Well worth the money I paid to see it.

I don't say this about many films bit I think it is worth seeing again on the big screen.

[Darth Turkish]

I also liked the movie. I was very critical of it as I watched, but I have to say I got sucked in. Perhaps my critical view was based upon that we all knew the outcome.
Christensen's acting was much better. If it was bad it was due to clunky scripting. Love scenes were kinda silly, but we did not really go to watch those, yes?
I loved that we learned who Sideus' Master was, even in name only.
Very sad to see all of the cool Jedi die. Saesee Tiin, Kit Fisto, Plo Koon, Mace, were some cool guys. I was really cheering to see Mace strike down Sideus, even though I knew it wasn't going to happen.
Lots of lost hands in this one.
I loved all of the little references to the ANH.: Grand Moff Tarkin, Tantive IV hallway, Beru and Owen's movie ending pose, "Search your feelings..", "Too clumsy ". Just awesome. Also have enjoyed the evolution of the ships and armor over the last three movies.
In retrospect, I am glad that, if Lucas was going to do six movies, that he started where he did. If he had started with Episode I, Darth Vader would probably have turned out to be more of a sympathetic and mediocre villian instead of one of the greatest and most ruthless movie villians in history.
Vader is the yardstick by which other villians are measured.

[pravusdeus]

I thought I would post on this as today is the conclusion, of what could be the first ever complete STAR WARS SAGA marathon (yes it included the Clone Wars cartoon AND the Star Wars Holiday Special)

Its funny watching the trilogy as it was meant to be I through VI, a lot of stuff changes (You pick up on things like Guiness in the first one says he never owned any droid but he seems to recognize artoo, a lot of things like that you pick up on, also Anakin is Red 5 in ROTS and Luke is Red 5 in ANH).

Right now we are currently showing Return of the Jedi and I have to say I really like Vader's character a lot more. The entire trilogys big moment I think now is Anakin turning instead of the "I am your father" moment. The only major problem is that its somewhat noticeable shift between the new and old trilogys as the old trilogy feels more gritty more real as there is no digital effects. Anyway just thought Id chime in.

I also really liked ROTS, definetly my second favorite of the series behind Empire. Empire is just what every movie should be lol. ROTS though is very very close behind it as it the darkest of the six.

[Barnestormer]

pravusdeus said:

Its funny watching the trilogy as it was meant to be I through VI, a lot of stuff changes (You pick up on things like Guiness in the first one says he never owned any droid but he seems to recognize artoo, a lot of things like that you pick up on, also Anakin is Red 5 in ROTS and Luke is Red 5 in ANH).

At least 20 years have passed since Obi-Wan parted company with R2 and 3PO and settled on Tatooine. That's a lot of years, even I can't remember everybody that's passed in and out of my life. And if you think about it, he never really owned the droids to begin with, In truth, Anakin really "owned" 3PO, since he was the one who built him, and Padme really owned R2, since it served aboard her ship in Ep1: TPM. So what he told Luke was the truth, "from a certain point of view." (Sorry, I couldn't resist.)

[Wad]

Nemecys said:

I find it interesting that it took the Empire about 19 years to create the first Death Star but only about 3 years to build the second (talk about leaps in technology!).

Not really. The first thing of anything is always the hardest to build. Figure in R&D, engineering and testing, 19 years is a reasonable amount of time. Once they got that out of the way, it's all just a matter of following instructions.

It takes Boeing about 3-4 years to build a plane from the time of purchase to first delivery.

[jsanudo]

Nemecys said:

According to the books there's about 19 years between ep 3 and 4.

I find it interesting that it took the Empire about 19 years to create the first Death Star but only about 3 years to build the second (talk about leaps in technology!).

Actually, they stated the second Death Star was being built before the first one exploded, if my memory serves me correct.

[Big Bri]

pravusdeus said:

I thought I would post on this as today is the conclusion, of what could be the first ever complete STAR WARS SAGA marathon (yes it included the Clone Wars cartoon AND the Star Wars Holiday Special)

What was the Star Wars Holiday Special and when was it released?

I saw ROTS today and it was great. There were enough links to ANH to satisfy. My girlfriend understood most of what was going on despite having never seen any Star Wars film (yes, there are a few people like this, LOL). Also, I might be the odd man out for saying this, but I'm SO SICK OF LONG DRAWN-OUT LIGHTSABER FIGHTS!!! I'm more into the storyline stuff at this point. All in all, totally worth the money (including refreshments).

Some people I've talked to said that seeing ROTS got them pumped to see IV-VI again, but it pumped me to come home and play some COTG, because the storylines of both are so similar. I play EC right now, kinda like the PM or AOTC of the game. I'd say ROTS was 2086 all the way.

[Nemecys X]

I don't remember the details of the holiday special, only that it included some terrible-looking wookies and an animated Boba Fett (it was released between eps 4 and 5).

Jay

[thefamoustommyz]

pravusdeus said:

The only major problem is that its somewhat noticeable shift between the new and old trilogys as the old trilogy feels more gritty more real as there is no digital effects. Anyway just thought Id chime in.

Total agreement there.

I was joking to a friend of mine at the beginning space battle and said about a starfighter "Ha! I can see the strings!"

Of course, I was being an @ss, because it didn't have strings.

And then it hit me.

I *like* the big rubber suits and the scale models. They feel more *real* to me than all the CGI aliens and ships.

Not saying I hate the new movies...just figured out why I'll probably never like them as much as I do the old.