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Post by swarm on Jan 25, 2007 20:54:06 GMT -5
And if you didn't have enough Angle, trust me, it gets better
by Phil Adams
The Kurt Angle fantasy tour continued today.
He put over Dixie Carter. She's paying him more than Vince ever did. She's
a better businesswoman than Vince could ever dream of being (maybe because
Vince isn't a woman?). He says that her backers could buy and sell Vince
and that an NFL owner may be backing TNA soon. They are talking with Hogan
and Jericho.
Kurt says TNA's ratings are now beating ECW and Smackdown.
Vince treats the guys who give him respect far worse than the guys who
don't. A Dr. told Kurt that the blood vessels on Vince's nose (which he
covers with makeup) indicate that Vince has humungous high blood pressure
and is a ticking timebomb for a heart attack.
Shane has done more businesswise for the WWE than Vince. Shane is in charge
of the international marketing and has deals with China and Russia set up.
Kurt said that he (Kurt) is actually responsible for the deal with China
becuase when he was in Japan, China (I assume the country) gave Kurt its
phone number and Kurt gave it to Shane who closed the deal. (Intersting that
"China" has a phone number, must be some kind of red phone, hotline deal
like Batman had). Kurt likes Shane alot and says Shane has a heart, unlike
Vince.
HHH is a slimeball.
Adding Hogan, Big Show and Jericho will easily put TNA over WWE.
Can't understand why Test has been buried in WWE. Says that Test is a great
worker. he compares Test to a young Kevin Nash (I assume he meant that as a
positive thing).
Kurt said he has done more jobs than any top guy in the history of wrestling
(Flair?) and is still over.
He concludes by plugging tonight's episode of TNA at 9:00 p.m. on Spike
(nice product awareness).
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Post by bigeasy on Jan 25, 2007 22:19:47 GMT -5
A young Kevin Nash? How dare he bestow such praise on the cess pool of mediocrity that is Test!
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Post by dukedave on Jan 25, 2007 22:20:21 GMT -5
Swarm,
I don't know who Phil Adams is but if you ripped this from a wrestling news service why is it not mentioned that this is from an appearance on Bubba the Lave Sponge. "Phil Adams" comes across as the interviewer, plus whose comments are in parenthesis.
I saw a report on this interview in a little more detail and yes, Kurt Angle is delusional. However, although he did call HHH a slimeball he did give him props by saying that he has good ideas and will be even better for the E when he is out of wrestling.
Either you or Phil Adams rip on a Test to a young Kevin Nash comparison as (I assume he meant that as a positive thing). Kevin Nash has blown for a majority of his career but as Diesel he was over for three years during a very high period in WWF popularity. Any up and coming big man would kill to be compared to a young Kevin Nash. Now the Nash of the last 10 years, maybe not so much.
Another cool thing mentioned was how much Kurt thought of Big Show as a worker and that he would have a huge undeated streak if he came over
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Post by swarm on Jan 25, 2007 22:43:06 GMT -5
Swarm, I don't know who Phil Adams is but if you ripped this from a wrestling news service why is it not mentioned that this is from an appearance on Bubba the Lave Sponge. "Phil Adams" comes across as the interviewer, plus whose comments are in parenthesis. I saw a report on this interview in a little more detail and yes, Kurt Angle is delusional. However, although he did call HHH a slimeball he did give him props by saying that he has good ideas and will be even better for the E when he is out of wrestling. Either you or Phil Adams rip on a Test to a young Kevin Nash comparison as (I assume he meant that as a positive thing). Kevin Nash has blown for a majority of his career but as Diesel he was over for three years during a very high period in WWF popularity. Any up and coming big man would kill to be compared to a young Kevin Nash. Now the Nash of the last 10 years, maybe not so much. Another cool thing mentioned was how much Kurt thought of Big Show as a worker and that he would have a huge undeated streak if he came over From the same site. WO, who also happen to be huge TNA marks... Kurt Angle the crazy quote machine continues by Darren Chan Angle just on Bubba has just claimed the following: Dixie has an NFL owner backing her. He claims it is a "rumor" just to be clear. Dixie has contacted Hogan. Getting Hogan and Paul Wight would change the face of the industry. Hesistated at the thought of bringing in Waltman if they were to do an nWo Wolfpack angle. (He didn't know about the MTV show) Jericho rumors again. Called HHH a "Slimeball." (wow) Didn't want to make light of HHH's injury, though. Thinks HHH would be better served once he retires from in-ring activities. Too politically motivated right now. Said he once told Steph that and she got really mad at Angle. Said an unnamed Doctor told him to look at Vince McMahon's purple vessels on his nose. Sign of high blood pressure. Heart attack waiting to happen. Says Shane has done more for the company than Vince has. Kudos to Shane for doing the business end of things well. Namely international. Says he heard the rumors about Jericho choking out Goldberg. Says Jericho is tough and one time when Jericho was drunk, he went toe-to-toe with Test, who Angle says is a tough SOB. Met Bobby Lashley years ago. He was 198 when they met at the olympic training center. A year later, he weighed 280. Called him a "freak." Christian needs a good run with the title. Says Christian is 6-1 225 legit. Says Christian looks like 180 on TV. Says he'll have a Match of the Year with Christian when the time comes. Not sure if he's a heel or a face, but he loves it. Bubba made fun of Angle when he was green. Angle supposedly didn't know the carny language. He says he has a hard time calling matches with the mouthpiece. Says his King of the Ring match with Hogan (when he wore that wig) was a ***** match. "Stole the show" Has lots of respect for Hogan. "A businessman." Wants Hogan more than anything at TNA. Called himself an agent, a writer, and a wrestler. If he brought in Wight, he'd not have him lose for 5 years. Shawn Michaels is a "jerk." Said he was not a team player. Angle did more jobs than any other top player in the business and he's still over. Told a story about Michaels refusing to go to SmackDown. Said he was going to call Dixie regarding Hogan as soon as he got off the phone with Bubba. Says RVD called him the only guy in ECW that "knows how to work." That line comes off a 20-minute TV match Angle had with Sabu. McMahon called for no gimmicks to be used. Angle called the match and they had a straight match that was great. RVD told him that line when he went to the back. Wants Bubba to get Tito Ortiz on the phone next week with him. Wants to work out a fight out. Bubba ended the show claiming that TNA wants him (yes, Bubba) to come in in some capacity. Quite the show. |
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Post by Wildfire on Jan 25, 2007 22:50:30 GMT -5
I wonder if Angle has truly lost his mind, or if he's trying to mimic/outdo Hulk Hogan in over the top-ness
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Post by dukedave on Jan 25, 2007 22:55:01 GMT -5
I wasn't doubting the original post. I just knew there was more and still thought it was confusing (and possible illegal) for Mr. Adams to post those thoughts and not mention where they were from.
Nonetheless, while still a lunatic, Kurt said some interesting things. The one I didn't mention earlier was his props to Christian. This one probably seems a little biased, though, from the Angle/Edge/Christian comedy gold days.
As an aside - the more I think of the Edge/Christian days, the more I miss it. They were comedy gold and great in the ring. I think that they will always be shortchanged when it comes to the great tag teams of the generation due to their singles success.
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Post by Coheed on Jan 26, 2007 0:02:19 GMT -5
Wow Kurt has lost his friggin mind
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Post by Hegemony on Jan 26, 2007 12:11:07 GMT -5
Very sad to see the fall from grace of one of the top talents in recent memory. Angle fit in perfectly with WWE's style of wrestling with his great personality (although I would have written him to be less of a goof) and excellent wrestling matches. In 2001-early 2003 he was consistently putting on spectacular matches and seemed destined to be one of the all time greats. However, his body broke down and it seems he was never the same, something he would apparently be the last to admit.
His recent behavior is frightening considering the state of his body, for example his wrestling at the Impact tapings the DAY AFTER suffering a concussion in his match with Joe. Apparently Angle will continue to push his body until something truly disastrous happens, which is very scary. In addition, his delusional comments, including his apparent desire to fight MMA with no training, indicates that Angle should be the last person deciding his body's condition, since he has apparently lost all basis of reality in his competitve mind.
My comments regarding Vince McMahon in other posts demonstrate that I am not his biggest fan in the world, but his release of Angle is something that I wholeheartedly support. It is really a shame that his name is worth so much that others were willing to put his health at risk, although Russo is doing his best these days to make sure that Angle's name will mean nothing in six months. Maybe Russo is not so bad after all...
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Post by ewt on Jan 26, 2007 16:17:02 GMT -5
And if you didn't have enough Angle, trust me, it gets better by Phil Adams The Kurt Angle fantasy tour continued today. He put over Dixie Carter. She's paying him more than Vince ever did. She's a better businesswoman than Vince could ever dream of being (maybe because Vince isn't a woman?). He says that her backers could buy and sell Vince and that an NFL owner may be backing TNA soon. They are talking with Hogan and Jericho. Kurt says TNA's ratings are now beating ECW and Smackdown. Vince treats the guys who give him respect far worse than the guys who don't. A Dr. told Kurt that the blood vessels on Vince's nose (which he covers with makeup) indicate that Vince has humungous high blood pressure and is a ticking timebomb for a heart attack. Shane has done more businesswise for the WWE than Vince. Shane is in charge of the international marketing and has deals with China and Russia set up. Kurt said that he (Kurt) is actually responsible for the deal with China becuase when he was in Japan, China (I assume the country) gave Kurt its phone number and Kurt gave it to Shane who closed the deal. (Intersting that "China" has a phone number, must be some kind of red phone, hotline deal like Batman had). Kurt likes Shane alot and says Shane has a heart, unlike Vince. HHH is a slimeball. Adding Hogan, Big Show and Jericho will easily put TNA over WWE. Can't understand why Test has been buried in WWE. Says that Test is a great worker. he compares Test to a young Kevin Nash (I assume he meant that as a positive thing). Kurt said he has done more jobs than any top guy in the history of wrestling (Flair?) and is still over. He concludes by plugging tonight's episode of TNA at 9:00 p.m. on Spike (nice product awareness). Wow so little time so much "stuff". This is one of the most amazing reads in a while. WOW! I watched the RR Legends on the dish today...I remember when Kurt was normal and you...I just figured it out he has "Old-timer's" disesase, just like my Grandmother...she can'trelate to the real world either. Kurt Angle=Helen, an old woman. |
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Post by bmurderh8s on Jan 26, 2007 16:22:41 GMT -5
And if you didn't have enough Angle, trust me, it gets better by Phil Adams The Kurt Angle fantasy tour continued today. He put over Dixie Carter. She's paying him more than Vince ever did. She's a better businesswoman than Vince could ever dream of being (maybe because Vince isn't a woman?). He says that her backers could buy and sell Vince and that an NFL owner may be backing TNA soon. They are talking with Hogan and Jericho. Kurt says TNA's ratings are now beating ECW and Smackdown. Vince treats the guys who give him respect far worse than the guys who don't. A Dr. told Kurt that the blood vessels on Vince's nose (which he covers with makeup) indicate that Vince has humungous high blood pressure and is a ticking timebomb for a heart attack. Shane has done more businesswise for the WWE than Vince. Shane is in charge of the international marketing and has deals with China and Russia set up. Kurt said that he (Kurt) is actually responsible for the deal with China becuase when he was in Japan, China (I assume the country) gave Kurt its phone number and Kurt gave it to Shane who closed the deal. (Intersting that "China" has a phone number, must be some kind of red phone, hotline deal like Batman had). Kurt likes Shane alot and says Shane has a heart, unlike Vince. HHH is a slimeball. Adding Hogan, Big Show and Jericho will easily put TNA over WWE. Can't understand why Test has been buried in WWE. Says that Test is a great worker. he compares Test to a young Kevin Nash (I assume he meant that as a positive thing). Kurt said he has done more jobs than any top guy in the history of wrestling (Flair?) and is still over. He concludes by plugging tonight's episode of TNA at 9:00 p.m. on Spike (nice product awareness). Wow so little time so much "stuff". This is one of the most amazing reads in a while. WOW! I watched the RR Legends on the dish today...I remember when Kurt was normal and you...I just figured it out he has "Old-timer's" disesase, just like my Grandmother...she can'trelate to the real world either. Kurt Angle=Helen, an old woman. He's probably right about HHH being a slimeball.  |
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Post by gatekeeper on Jan 26, 2007 22:08:25 GMT -5
Just another case of sour grapes from another guy who WWE didn't re-sign. Too bad, Angle was one of my all time favorite guys.
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Post by jester on Jan 27, 2007 0:29:25 GMT -5
Superstar Graham
Bob Backlund
Hulk Hogan
Brett Hart
Stone Cold
and now.... Kurt Angle
Just another in the long list (only a few listed) that carried that damn company and then when they out lived their usefulness or had too many injuries they were very unceremoniously let go... Sour grapes, is people's memories really that short? What other American wrestler has ever moonsaulted off the top of a cage. But that's neither here nor there, the point is Vince uses people up and says , not thanks for all the hard work but rather what have you done for me lately. That's business "I guess" but man give people credit for what they did and helped shape the "cough...um" sport into what it is today. You guys thrash Samoa Joe but Umaga is okay??? Joe was first, Jamal was just WWE's way of trying to copy an undefeated Samoan. Angle is angry I'm sure and probably talking out his @$s but give the guy some credit. And yes he has put a lot of people over, and that's a bad thing? Too many people in that business have huge egos and refuse to put anyone over. Anyway that's my two cents.....
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Post by bmurderh8s on Jan 27, 2007 1:33:42 GMT -5
Superstar Graham Bob Backlund Hulk Hogan Brett Hart Stone Cold and now.... Kurt Angle Just another in the long list (only a few listed) that carried that damn company and then when they out lived their usefulness or had too many injuries they were very unceremoniously let go... Sour grapes, is people's memories really that short? What other American wrestler has ever moonsaulted off the top of a cage. But that's neither here nor there, the point is Vince uses people up and says , not thanks for all the hard work but rather what have you done for me lately. That's business "I guess" but man give people credit for what they did and helped shape the "cough...um" sport into what it is today. You guys thrash Samoa Joe but Umaga is okay??? Joe was first, Jamal was just WWE's way of trying to copy an undefeated Samoan. Angle is angry I'm sure and probably talking out his @$s but give the guy some credit. And yes he has put a lot of people over, and that's a bad thing? Too many people in that business have huge egos and refuse to put anyone over. Anyway that's my two cents..... The only fans that honestly in their heart of hearts think Umaga is better than Joe are the WWE Fanboys. No smark or anybody with a keen eye for wrestling thinks Umaga is more talented than Joe. The only reason fanboys think Umaga is better is because he works for Vince and is being pushed by Vince. I say bring back 3 Minute Warning, WWE could use the tag teams. |
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Post by swarm on Feb 10, 2007 11:16:59 GMT -5
Superstar Graham Bob Backlund Hulk Hogan Brett Hart Stone Cold and now.... Kurt Angle Just another in the long list (only a few listed) that carried that damn company and then when they out lived their usefulness or had too many injuries they were very unceremoniously let go... Sour grapes, is people's memories really that short? What other American wrestler has ever moonsaulted off the top of a cage. But that's neither here nor there, the point is Vince uses people up and says , not thanks for all the hard work but rather what have you done for me lately. That's business "I guess" but man give people credit for what they did and helped shape the "cough...um" sport into what it is today. You guys thrash Samoa Joe but Umaga is okay??? Joe was first, Jamal was just WWE's way of trying to copy an undefeated Samoan. Angle is angry I'm sure and probably talking out his @$s but give the guy some credit. And yes he has put a lot of people over, and that's a bad thing? Too many people in that business have huge egos and refuse to put anyone over. Anyway that's my two cents..... The only fans that honestly in their heart of hearts think Umaga is better than Joe are the WWE Fanboys. No smark or anybody with a keen eye for wrestling thinks Umaga is more talented than Joe. I believe I have a keener eye than almost anyone on this board, also gifted with the ability to understand pro wres for *everything* it is and is supposed to be, including the business aspect of it. While I cannot disagree that "smarks" think Joe is better, the fact is there is not a shred of evidence to even suggest he is half as good as Umaga let alone "better" than him which is just laughable. While certainly a subjective matter, it is still quite bone headed and "smarky" to claim that a stiff, out of shape, mid card indy wrestler is anywhere in the same league as a WWE Main Eventer. With that said, in the efforts to stay on topic, her is more from the delusional Kurt Angle... 2/9/2007 10:42:00 PM Kurt Angle's latest by Phil Adams Kurt was on with Scotty Ferrall. Scott and Kurt went to same High School in Pittsburgh, Kurt is a bit younger, though. Kurt went over his previous addictions, claiming up to 65 Vicodins per day, including 18 just to get out of bed which impressed Ferrall to no end. Kurt went through the story of Vince forcing him to rehab on the road. Kurt told the heartwarming story of his fight with Eddie Guererro. Eddie shot on him, trying a leg dive on Kurt. Kurt avoided it and put him in a rear naked choke. Another (nameless) wrestler asked Eddie why he would try a single leg on an Olympic champion. Eddie replied "because I'm fucking stupid". Kurt actually promoted TNA. He predicted his match this Sunday with Christian will be match of the year. He said that Samoa Joe is a tremendous athlete, can do a 4.5 40 yd dash and has a 44" verticle leap. He said his deal with TNA is financially better than at WWE and at WWE he had a one million dollar guarantee and usually made 2.5 to 3 million. Talking about his WWE days, he has seen Trish Stratus naked, but wouldn't give the details. In response to question from Eric the Midget, he reiterated his claim that HHH is a slimeball, saying he is a slimeball because HHH would never put Kurt over knowing Kurt could surpass him. He is negotiating for a big deal with EXC. He claimed that although UFC, through Dana, didn't want him after he told them he would continue to wrestle, they now want him again after hearing he is negotiating with EXC. He is now negotiating with both. Spike wants him to go UFC. Of course, he can beat anybody in MMA since he has superior quickness. He wants to fight three times before he is 40. He is probably too big to fight at 205, so a special weight class will have to be made for him. From listening to alot his interviews with Bubba, I can say that at least alot of his stuff consistent. |
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Post by Mr. Jimmyface on Feb 10, 2007 11:34:59 GMT -5
First off, thanks to Big Easy. Because of him, "cesspool of mediocrity" has entered my lexicon.
Second, listen to Swarm. Whether or not you agree with him, listen to him because he is an intelligent poster with insight.
Third, I politely disagree with DMK's recommendation to reunite 3 Minute Warning because the WWE needs tag teams. WWE currently is using tag teams as a weak secondary attraction, and Umaga is hot right now. Trust me, in a world of Deuce & Domino and The Highlanders, tag team wrestling is not as attractive of an option these days. If the WWE wanted to have a strong tag team division, John Cena and Shawn Michaels would not have the tag titles right now.
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Post by LWPD on Feb 10, 2007 17:56:04 GMT -5
He is negotiating for a big deal with EXC. He claimed that although UFC, through Dana, didn't want him after he told them he would continue to wrestle, they now want him again after hearing he is negotiating with EXC. He is now negotiating with both. Spike wants him to go UFC. Of course, he can beat anybody in MMA since he has superior quickness. He wants to fight three times before he is 40. He is probably too big to fight at 205, so a special weight class will have to be made for him. EXC is a new MMA promotion being fronted by Showtime and Boxing Promoter Gary Shaw. They have deep pockets and there's a very real chance they'll sign Angle...but it will probably end in disaster with his first fight. It's a real shame to see what's become of him. |
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Post by blueraider2 on Feb 10, 2007 18:06:30 GMT -5
seems like ever time you turn around theres a new mma fed popping up.  |
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Post by LWPD on Feb 10, 2007 18:10:11 GMT -5
seems like ever time you turn around theres a new mma fed popping up. We need to enjoy it while it lasts Neil...this won't go on forever. |
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Post by blueraider2 on Feb 10, 2007 18:11:32 GMT -5
not saying this is a bad thing lwpd.course i've never see mma or ufc myself.
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Post by gatekeeper on Feb 10, 2007 23:38:35 GMT -5
First off, thanks to Big Easy. Because of him, "cesspool of mediocrity" has entered my lexicon. Second, listen to Swarm. Whether or not you agree with him, listen to him because he is an intelligent poster with insight. Third, I politely disagree with DMK's recommendation to reunite 3 Minute Warning because the WWE needs tag teams. WWE currently is using tag teams as a weak secondary attraction, and Umaga is hot right now. Trust me, in a world of Deuce & Domino and The Highlanders, tag team wrestling is not as attractive of an option these days. If the WWE wanted to have a strong tag team division, John Cena and Shawn Michaels would not have the tag titles right now. Great points here. I wish there were some more tag teams on RAW but they've got some good ones. Cryme Tyme, Highlanders, World's Greatest Tag-Team. They do need a few more though. Actually, I wish they would've kept the Spirit Squad around after Kenny left just to have some more teams. |
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