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Post by dukedave on Dec 9, 2006 11:56:22 GMT -5
...it's name is Hulk Hogan.
Rumors are that TNA is preparing a big offer to Hogan. Please no, God. Please.
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Post by gatekeeper on Dec 9, 2006 11:57:16 GMT -5
...it's name is Hulk Hogan. Rumors are that TNA is preparing a big offer to Hogan. Please no, God. Please. Yeah, why would you want the most recognized name in the history of professional wrestling on your show?  |
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Post by dukedave on Dec 9, 2006 13:36:29 GMT -5
...it's name is Hulk Hogan. Rumors are that TNA is preparing a big offer to Hogan. Please no, God. Please. Yeah, why would you want the most recognized name in the history of professional wrestling on your show? Because he's 50+ and too banged up to do a leg drop and would be a complete locker room cancer pushing down the wrestlers who actually have futures. Is he gonna bring Flair, Piper, Rhodes, and Slaughter with him too. Maybe then they can have a Heavyweight champ, X-Division Champ and a Depends 50 and Over heavyweight title. If you even think this is a good move for TNA you are either fooling yourself or are just hoping it leads to the death of TNA that you and Swarm are wishing for. |
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Post by welsh on Dec 9, 2006 14:52:05 GMT -5
To be fair, whilst everything you say is true about his behaviour in WCW without someone who was strong enough to stand up to him (i.e. Vince) there are a lot of people who watch MTV and who watched WWF 20 years ago who have absoloutely no idea TNA even exists, or who Kurt Angle is. In today's market, something like signing Kurt Angle is only actually going to steal fans from WWE. Hogan is in fact the only person apart from the Rock who anyone from outside the wrestling community has actually heard of. Seriously, if it wasn't for the Longest Yard nobody would ever have heard of Stone Cold or Kevin Nash or Goldberg or Khali (and even that was only if someone who was already a wrestling fan explained who they were !)
Hogan could actually make people watch this show who weren't already wrestling fans. Of course whether they watch again...
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Post by dukedave on Dec 9, 2006 17:04:51 GMT -5
To be fair, whilst everything you say is true about his behaviour in WCW without someone who was strong enough to stand up to him (i.e. Vince) there are a lot of people who watch MTV and who watched WWF 20 years ago who have absoloutely no idea TNA even exists, or who Kurt Angle is. In today's market, something like signing Kurt Angle is only actually going to steal fans from WWE. Hogan is in fact the only person apart from the Rock who anyone from outside the wrestling community has actually heard of. Seriously, if it wasn't for the Longest Yard nobody would ever have heard of Stone Cold or Kevin Nash or Goldberg or Khali (and even that was only if someone who was already a wrestling fan explained who they were !) Hogan could actually make people watch this show who weren't already wrestling fans. Of course whether they watch again... I'm not doubting there will be a spike in viewers but a Hogan signing in the long run would kill TNA. I don't buy you lumping Austin in with Nash, Goldberg, and Khali. Austin, Rock, and Hogan are the three biggest draws in history. Rock would be the only one that could go there and be productive, not that that would ever happen. A redicated Chris Jericho would be a much better signing. If he recommits to wrestling after a botched singing/acting/XM radio host gig he still has numerous good years left. |
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Post by Joe on Dec 9, 2006 20:07:46 GMT -5
Hogan is in fact the only person apart from the Rock who anyone from outside the wrestling community has actually heard of. Seriously, if it wasn't for the Longest Yard nobody would ever have heard of Stone Cold or Kevin Nash or Goldberg or Khali (and even that was only if someone who was already a wrestling fan explained who they were !) Steve Austin was very much a mainstream, household name. Although I cannot recall the source, as it was nearly a decade ago, a non-WWE source reported that there were more Austin 3:16 shirts being sold than either Mark McGwire or Sammy Sosa jerseys in the summer of 1998. Granted price, multiple styles and regional sales being less of a factor could all be reasons for this, the fact remains that Austin and his slew of catch-phrases became a huge part of mainstream popular culture. Kevin Nash and Bill Goldberg also saw their popularity peak during a period of time that pro wrestling enjoyed its largest viewing audience. To say that no one outside hardcore wrestling fans know who they are, especially Goldberg, is simply inaccurate. Hulk Hogan in TNA may draw an immediate spike for TV ratings or a PPV, but that would probably be all. His showing up now would not carry the same weight as his arrival in WCW in the mid-90s or WWE in 2002. He hasn't really gone away recently, so it wouldn't be a comeback or a revival of Hulkamania, but rather a relocating to a smaller market. It is also hard to envision Hogan having a good, Hogan-style match with any of the TNA guys. Its even harder picturing him putting any of the guys over who would deserve such a push. That road was already was travelled when Vince Russo came fascinated with having Billy Kidman feud with Hogan, excuse me, Terry Bollea, and that feud was a disaster. To see a feud with Christopher Daniels or AJ Styles going any better is a stretch. It has been said before, but TNA needs to concentrate on TNA. The company needs to stop going after anybody WWE lets go of and focus on the talent it has. The company has plenty of talent, but it does not know what to do with it. Bringing in Kurt Angle has done very little to bolster the overall quality of TNA, so it is doubtful signing anyone else the WWE lets go would be any better for them. |
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Post by welsh on Dec 11, 2006 9:26:06 GMT -5
Thanks Joe, I stand corrected. I have a very poor view of the most lucrative market in wrestling (ie the US of A) as I live in the UK. Wrestling here is so underground that there is no bar in the country that would even entertain the idea of showing a PPV (good job Swarm doesn't live here). Wrestling is somewhere below D&D on the cool-o-meter over here (which makes me pretty low on said scale...  ) I was obviously incorrect, and I am quite suprised that the Attitude era was actually mainstream over there. There is a good reason why most events are held in the US I suppose... |
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Post by gatekeeper on Dec 11, 2006 10:45:07 GMT -5
Yeah, why would you want the most recognized name in the history of professional wrestling on your show? Because he's 50+ and too banged up to do a leg drop and would be a complete locker room cancer pushing down the wrestlers who actually have futures. Is he gonna bring Flair, Piper, Rhodes, and Slaughter with him too. Maybe then they can have a Heavyweight champ, X-Division Champ and a Depends 50 and Over heavyweight title. If you even think this is a good move for TNA you are either fooling yourself or are just hoping it leads to the death of TNA that you and Swarm are wishing for. Well, first off, I'm not wishing for a death of TNA. Just wishing they would do things better. My point is that if you are a small company desperate for more viewers, trying to compete with a gigantic company with a stronghold on most of the market, getting Hogan to appear on your show is about the best thing you could have happen. |
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Post by mwjergs on Dec 11, 2006 18:27:15 GMT -5
A Hogan appearance would bring the ratings.
As much as people want him to go away, in small doses Hogan can bring in fans.
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Post by Splattercat on Dec 11, 2006 22:42:43 GMT -5
Besides, Hogan's probably only holding their offer over Vince's head to get a bigger pay for Wrestlemania...
Hey, he's Hogan...Fault him at your peril... ;D
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Post by Pride on Dec 12, 2006 1:06:14 GMT -5
hmmmm Hogan in small doses yeah.TNA can use it.i am an TNA fan but they should do like the old ECW dont compete with the big guy just out story and out wrestle him.ie the only reason i watch TNA really is i heard of an wrestling show called ROH never ever saw an show,but me and some friends started hearing names like Samoa Joe holding an belt for 8 months straight at the time.ChrispherDanials and A J Styles matches that must be seen.Chris Sabin the new inproved pure wrestling version of RVD.and if he's the new RVD then Petey williams is his Jerry Lynn.and we heard things like "Dude i just visted my grandma and saw the most [cencer] thing ever,this guy called Homo[cencer]side,and he burned this guy it was alsome."TNA have the talent they just need to work with the wrestlers givem a good solid story line,then let them do what they do best....WRESTLE. these guys can make TNA as great as they want it to be. JUST LET THEM WRESTLE THEIR WAY TO THE TOP!they really dont need anyone,but they need to let that no good writer go or TNA will be history.
"those who dont learn from history,becomes history"-
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Post by JED-SE on Dec 12, 2006 9:29:59 GMT -5
I just don't see Hogan joining TNA while Russo is booking. It seems as though Russo tried to bury Hulkamania back in the final days of WCW and I doubt Hogan has any intentions in going throught that again.
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Post by JED-SE on Dec 12, 2006 9:31:14 GMT -5
When I saw the title of this post, I assumed you were talking about the Voodoo Kin Mafia, and one of their lame skits.
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Post by dukedave on Dec 12, 2006 10:39:17 GMT -5
When I saw the title of this post, I assumed you were talking about the Voodoo Kin Mafia, and one of their lame skits. No, VKM is like a benign tumor that, while painful, won't kill you. You just need to remove it and then you'll feel better. The Angle situation is like Hodgkins disease. It may kill you but if you catch it early and get Chemo you probably will get better. Hogan is like a brain anurysm. It's there and you appear to be just fine and then bam, you're dead. |
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