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Post by swarm on Dec 2, 2006 10:28:58 GMT -5
TNA cameras come to WWE house show A TNA camera crew featuring B.G. & Kip James, as well as Vince Russo and Jeremy Borash, showed up at the WWE Raw show tonight in Knoxville.
They filmed outside the arena. Some of those involved bought tickets and went into the building and played it up. HHH even acknowledged them at ringside similar to how he treated Kanyon when Kanyon tried to shoot his own angle. ________________________________________________
I kind of hope Vince buys out TNA and turn them into a parking lot.
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Post by gatekeeper on Dec 2, 2006 10:45:37 GMT -5
It's such a tired angle. Damn Russo is trying to recreate what DX did to WCW. It won't work.
The least of TNA's problems is the WWE. They need to worry about not screwing up how they use Kurt Angle and how to book their top guys.
Russo is a clown and he could lead to the demise of TNA.
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Post by Vidtek on Dec 2, 2006 10:56:10 GMT -5
Oh look, Payback and Swar agree on something....wow there's a surprise. And I bet when D-X did the same things to WCW you two thought it was some of the best stuff ever. Really, guys, come on. They did that stupid angle where they went to Target, that sucked. Now they actually do what they say they will do and you still think it sucks. Can TNA do anything that won't make the two of you holler about how much you hate the fed (short of closing its doors)?! Honestly! Big Time
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Post by euritar on Dec 2, 2006 12:13:10 GMT -5
If Russo is such as genius, why does he insist on using the same angles over and over again? He did the same thing in WCW, and look where they ended up. Is it that hard to come up with new material? Heck, Tom does it all the time. Maybe he needs to write for........no, I don't want to lose him, or he lose his mind trying to do it.
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Post by Vidtek on Dec 2, 2006 12:24:36 GMT -5
NO one has come up with new ideas for pro wrestling since the hayday of the Golden Age. ALL pro wrestling angles are just rehashes of the same stuff someone else did somewhere at some other time. Big Time
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Post by gatekeeper on Dec 2, 2006 12:51:00 GMT -5
NO one has come up with new ideas for pro wrestling since the hayday of the Golden Age. ALL pro wrestling angles are just rehashes of the same stuff someone else did somewhere at some other time. That's true to a point but you can't do the exact same thing over and over. Plus, my point was that they need to focus on THEIR product, not Vince's. You have to learn from history. That was a main reason of the downfall of WCW. Vince just focusses on the WWE. The TNA higher ups should do the same thing.
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Post by gatekeeper on Dec 2, 2006 12:51:25 GMT -5
Oh look, Payback and Swar agree on something....wow there's a surprise.
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Post by markoda on Dec 2, 2006 13:04:27 GMT -5
I will admit I am a fan of the TNA product.
BUt, Vince will completely run them out of business. There are so many problems right now I do not even know where to start.
Booking is the main problem. There needs to be future plans, not just ahead only 3 months (if that). I do not think that TNA will be around much longer the rate they are going.
That being said, WWE doesn't seem to be trying with Smackdown either. Look at last night's show. Finlay has not been winning and Batista decimated him. But last night's show Finlay was involved with the World Title and all of a sudden he holds his own and puts on a damn fine performance.
The Krystal and Layla thing. A few weeks ago they looked to head for a feud. Nothing for a few weeks. And then they fight with no mention last night about their former problems. (Maybe I just missed it as I am not a big fan of the Smackdown Women as wrestlers. None are beleivable! Now the Raw Women....YES!!!)
Does anyone know if the Smackdown brand is going to be removed? Is that why the show has been so bad lately? Haven't heard about it, but is just seems that way.
As the human torch says......FLAME ON!
I know I will be getting some heat for this, but this is just my opinion.
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Post by ewt on Dec 2, 2006 14:10:35 GMT -5
Smackdown and garbage. They both need taken outside and burned. I have stated I want TNA to be a success, BUT they are headed down a path that only ends in the end. I have said before get new writers, non wrestling ones...comic book writers. Then get rid of the old guard. Sting, VKM, the Dudleys except Runt and then try to make a long run with it. Otherwise in a year or less all that will be left is the cockroaches and well nothing else. I can't bring myself to watch the WWE. ECW is as close as I get. Only once in a while at best.
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Post by GOODZILLA on Dec 2, 2006 23:28:49 GMT -5
The least of TNA's problems is the WWE. They need to worry about not screwing up how they use Kurt Angle and how to book their top guys. Excellently stated my friend. How is that EVERYONE seems to understand this except for TNA?
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Post by PureHatred on Dec 3, 2006 14:12:49 GMT -5
Oh look, Payback and Swar agree on something....wow there's a surprise. And I bet when D-X did the same things to WCW you two thought it was some of the best stuff ever. Really, guys, come on. They did that stupid angle where they went to Target, that sucked. Now they actually do what they say they will do and you still think it sucks. Can TNA do anything that won't make the two of you holler about how much you hate the fed (short of closing its doors)?! Honestly! Big Time This is a terrible statement. The early HHH-led DX stuff was actually pretty innovative. The WWF had for years never even knowledged the existence of NWA and now not only had XPacbroekn kayfabe on live TV but they were going to create conflict iwth the competition on live TV, What TNA is doing is cheap and second-rate. Taking shots at the WWE when you are nowhere near being competition makes you look ridiculous. Plus, and I've said this before about this VKM nonsense, let's say this angle somehow works and you get some heat for it. You've now spent MONTHS pushing The James Gang!!! With all the talent on that roster, why are you wasting your time trying to push those has-beens? There is not a sinlge good or interesting thing about this storyline.
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Post by GOODZILLA on Dec 3, 2006 23:24:16 GMT -5
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Post by Joe on Dec 3, 2006 23:37:45 GMT -5
That was beyond wack. Since I know there is no chance in hell TNA actually paid T.I. for that beat, I hope he sues the hell out of them for putting one of the hottest beats of the year under that garbage.
John Cena is no Rakim or Jay by any means, but anything on his CD absolutely murders the crap that Killings did on this clip.
I must have missed where Cena dissed Killings, so I am curious as to what was said.
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Post by dukedave on Dec 4, 2006 8:34:04 GMT -5
Do the cool kids still say "wack".
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Post by Knapik on Dec 4, 2006 12:37:30 GMT -5
Well Joe is cool and he said 'wack', so I suppose there's your answer.
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Post by Joe on Dec 4, 2006 14:32:00 GMT -5
Well Joe is cool and he said 'wack', so I suppose there's your answer. Thanks, Knapik. Related to the topic, however, it would be greatly apprectiated if anyone could post a link or the actual comments Cena made about Killings. I don't recall Cena saying anything on his CD, so I am assuming it must have been in an interview.
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Post by swarm on Dec 4, 2006 16:42:32 GMT -5
Excerpt from John Cena's interview where he rags on Killings...
Interviewer: ...so what do you think of Ron Killings...he kind of has a rap thing goin' on too ya know...
Cena: Who?
Interviewer: Ron KIllings...
Cena: Who?
Interviewer: K-Qwick...
Cena: The skinny black dude who dances like an epileptic on dance fever?
Interviewer: yes...him...
Cena: Who does he wrestle for again?
Interviewer: TNA...
Cena: Oh yeah, he sucks.
Interviewer: Why do you say that?
Cena: well, he wrestles for TNA doesn't he?
Interviewer: good point...
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Post by Wildfire on Dec 4, 2006 17:22:46 GMT -5
Heh.. that's great.. its really too bad the E insists on trying to make Cena an uber-face... the man does a great job ripping on people.
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Post by ewt on Dec 4, 2006 22:44:24 GMT -5
It's also to bad that Cena & Ron the Truth KKwick Killings mean nothing to the universe of wrestling. Cena=bad...Killings=sharp object into ones own ear.
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Post by GOODZILLA on Dec 4, 2006 22:47:33 GMT -5
It's also to bad that Cena & Ron the Truth KKwick Killings mean nothing to the universe of wrestling. Cena is the WWE Champion, which is the most presitgious title in wrestling. (Even if it's for some reason being booked below DX right now.) So I wouldn't really say he means nothing in the universe of wrestling.
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