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Post by swarm on Nov 18, 2006 0:15:31 GMT -5
1.0
hilarious.
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Post by swarm on Nov 18, 2006 0:16:28 GMT -5
Yep. 1.0. Kurt Angle...changing the face of the industry...huge upside...big ratings.
nope.
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Post by GOODZILLA on Nov 18, 2006 0:42:53 GMT -5
Not a surprise at all. Did anyone really expect it to be higher?
TNA has their core fans. They are loyal and will watch every week, some because they honestly love what TNA brings to the table and others because they are so anti-WWE that they will watch whatever crap comes along as an alternative.
What TNA can't do, or at least hasn't come close to accomplishing, is drawing in new viewers. If they thought Kurt Angle would debut and suddenly they would have hundreds of thousands of new fans then they aren't living in the same reality as anyone else.
And, after watching what happened on Impact this week, any new fans that might have checked it out, probably won't be back next week.
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Post by LWPD on Nov 18, 2006 8:31:43 GMT -5
Even more comedic is watching Internet fans 'fantasy book' these shows while casting blame on Jeff Jarrett from the 'wisdom seats' of the the peanut gallery. It's had me laughing for years. Scoring a 1.0 average in the 9-11 PM slot is equal to running a very poorly rated episode of The Ultimate Fighter...with significantly less ad revenue coming in along the way. Going head up with Thursday Night NFL into December probably won't see much of a difference to the upside...but first comes the reality of a cold November rain.
LWPD (one of the biggest fallacies among pro wres fans willingly 'trapped inside the Internet bubble' has been the habitual blaming of Jeff Jarrett for TNA's lack of upward mobility...with the show now airing in prime time for several months without JJ headlining it'll be interesting to see if a sentiment 'learning curve' develops should TNA find itself in the same exact ratings range once the 9 PM deal ends in February...sadly I'd hedge my bets on most fans not learning a thing, finding different 'scapegoats' and retreating into the realms of 'fantasy booking' an alternative reality...'if only...')
And when your fears subside
And shadows still remain
I know that you can love me
When there's no one left to blame- Guns n Roses 'November Rain' |
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Post by cakejedi on Nov 18, 2006 8:39:01 GMT -5
Going up against CSI and Grey's Anatomy, two of TV's HOTTEST shows, didn't help. As much as I enjoy TNA, my wife's favorite show is CSI, so I will only be able to watch Impact during the commercials. I tuned in every week when it was on at 11:00, but won't be able to watch it in Prime Time due to CSI.
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Post by cakejedi on Nov 18, 2006 9:03:25 GMT -5
1.0 is a big disappointment for TNA.
The bad rating doesn't change the fact that Thursday night's Impact was the most enjoyable two hours of wrestling I have watched in a long time. So I decided to take my own advice. In the thread on Thanksgiving, I mentioned how Americans are always quick to complain but are slow to complement. I have written letters to the WWE and USA expressing my disappointment over some of the subject matter in WWE programming. I decided to be positive for a change and contacted Spike TV to let them know how much I enjoyed Impact. My letter doesn't change the bad rating. I just wanted to express to Spike TV how much I enjoyed Impact.
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Post by swarm on Nov 18, 2006 10:40:25 GMT -5
So when TNA blatantly craps the bed not a single TNA mark on these boards enters into the discussion?
you're all there to freak out when I claim they suck...
but when they prove me right...you're nowhere to be heard from.
so for future references, if you can't be a fan of your fed when their down, then I don't see the point of jumping all over people who think the show sucks.
I just wanted to point that out.
edit: ok I take that back. Cakejedi has a great post. sorry buddy. but where are the usual suspects?
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Post by BDS on Nov 18, 2006 11:03:30 GMT -5
but where are the usual suspects? My guess would either be "sleeping in" or "choosing not to participate in the same pointless argument for the hojillionth time." |
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Post by swarm on Nov 18, 2006 11:07:30 GMT -5
ha. that's what I thought. hey I'm a Lions fan. I know what's it's like to stick by your team when the rest of the country rags you to peices.
posers.
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Post by gwffantrav on Nov 18, 2006 11:10:11 GMT -5
I'm not either a fan of the WWE or TNA. I'll watch, but neither is that entertaining. I'd rather play COTG than watch either personally. If anyone thinks that the WWE's booking is better than TNA's...lol....
About the only thing right the WWE has done right is push Edge and turn Cena from a rapper to more of a no nonsense kind of guy. They forget storylines from week to week, which some fans don't mind, but it really bugs me. (This really only goes to Smackdown and Raw...ECW has actually been trying to put together a semblance of storyline).
TNAs problem is they have an hour and by the time things unfold, it becomes a cluster****. Plus, they are pushing the wrong guys...guys like the James Gang, etc. No one cares about them. They blew it with Christian coming in as a face.
They should have had Joe take the NWA Title back a couple months ago. They had given him a years worth of build up. When Angle came in, that would have given him legit reason to want to take on Joe. He has an Olympic Gold Medal, WWE Titles and now wants to win the NWA Title.
Just bugs me that TNA has the talent to make a great wrestling show...they just need to get the guys to make it a decent entertainment show as well. That's the way they are going to get some new fans who have been brainwashed by the WWE's style of sports entertainment.
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Post by BDS on Nov 18, 2006 11:20:26 GMT -5
ha. that's what I thought. hey I'm a Lions fan. I know what's it's like to stick by your team when the rest of the country rags you to peices. posers. I'm a Cubs fan. My uncle lived and died a Cubs fan who stuck by his team his entire life until he died without ever seeing them in the series. Same thing with my wife's beloved and passed grandfather, and I'm both prepared and expecting to do the same thing. I know all about standing behind my team no matter what happens or how bad things get. That having been said, I know better than to argue baseball with a Cardinals fan. There's just no point to it. Cardinals fans are obnoxious, doubly so now that they've won the Series, and me and any random Cardinals fan aren't likely to see eye-to-eye. I hate their team, they hate my team, and it's best that we not even start the argument in the first place. Same logic applies here. You think TNA sucks. A lot of people that post (or used to post) on this board happen to like it quite a lot. Discussing it is rapidly becoming more and more of a waste of time, though, because the hope of actually having discussions instead of arguments continues to dwindle. If not wanting to bang my head against the same wall over and over again makes me a poser, whatever that means, then I'm a poser. I enjoy TNA, their ring work especially. I think WWE is a festering pile of crap masquerading as a wrestling promotion. The rating was disappiointing. Nothing left to say here. |
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Post by swarm on Nov 18, 2006 12:04:50 GMT -5
That's cool. but I hope you can at least understand my point. As of 11/17/2006, TNA has been factually exposed to suck just as much as I ever said it did...I'm just saying the ratings prove WWE rules, and TNA sucks. And now that I've be proved right, it's a ghost town...
Great debaters can debate both sides...I claim DX sucks balls too, but no one cares about me saying that...of course not, it's WWE.
I just find it ironic.
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Post by blueraider2 on Nov 18, 2006 12:20:54 GMT -5
That's cool. but I hope you can at least understand my point. As of 11/17/2006, TNA has been factually exposed to suck just as much as I ever said it did...I'm just saying the ratings prove WWE rules, and TNA sucks. And now that I've be proved right, it's a ghost town... Great debaters can debate both sides...I claim DX sucks balls too, but no one cares about me saying that...of course not, it's WWE. I just find it ironic. its nice to see you guys are loyal to your teams/feds.i used to follow the orioles for years. |
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Post by swarm on Nov 18, 2006 12:44:40 GMT -5
man neilybob is on a roll! again, he gets it. hell yeah nb.
If you love TNA, great. good for you.
I'd just like to hear what you have to say now that, after all the Kurt Angle hoopla, it turns out he did ziltch to help the ratings.
As a Lions fan, I have to defend my team 365 days a year. and I love every second of it because I'm a die hard fan. I don't run and hide when everyone says they are going to suck "this year" and they prove those people right by totally crapping the field 10-12 times a year.
that's all I'm saying.
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Post by thedragonreborn on Nov 18, 2006 12:54:53 GMT -5
Hey I have to deal with the AZ Cardinals!! Eight year season ticket holder here. At least the Lions have been to the playoffs more than once.  Anyways, I think it's disappointing that TNA got such a low rating, but oh well, I'll still watch it every Thursday. I like TNA, Nuff said!! Rahl |
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Post by swarm on Nov 18, 2006 13:03:11 GMT -5
strong.
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Post by PureHatred on Nov 18, 2006 13:15:04 GMT -5
Terrible rating. Even worse is TNA news sites trying to spin the rating (whch was technically a 1.04) by saying it was ALMOST a 1.1.
Awful. The show itself wasn't bad. But that's clearly an indication that TNA has not done anything to make itself appealing to anyone except its most ardent followers.
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Post by PureHatred on Nov 18, 2006 13:30:22 GMT -5
Even more comedic is watching Internet fans 'fantasy book' these shows while casting blame on Jeff Jarrett from the 'wisdom seats' of the the peanut gallery. It's had me laughing for years. Scoring a 1.0 average in the 9-11 PM slot is equal to running a very poorly rated episode of The Ultimate Fighter...with significantly less ad revenue coming in along the way. Going head up with Thursday Night NFL into December probably won't see much of a difference to the upside...but first comes the reality of a cold November rain.
LWPD (one of the biggest fallacies among pro wres fans willingly 'trapped inside the Internet bubble' has been the habitual blaming of Jeff Jarrett for TNA's lack of upward mobility...with the show now airing in prime time for several months without JJ headlining it'll be interesting to see if a sentiment 'learning curve' develops should TNA find itself in the same exact ratings range once the 9 PM deal ends in February...sadly I'd hedge my bets on most fans not learning a thing, finding different 'scapegoats' and retreating into the realms of 'fantasy booking' an alternative reality...'if only...')
And when your fears subside
And shadows still remain
I know that you can love me
When there's no one left to blame- Guns n Roses 'November Rain'You're so right. Pro wrestling is such a hopeless endeavor, why bother even trying to put out the best product possible? I mean, why try to create new stars or change your predictable booking or do anything to improve yourself when the situation is so bleak? Just go ahead and book the same guy who's turned off a big portion of your fanbase no matter what. Screw that audience. ..JJ needs a paycheck. You'll never win so you might as well go out sucking as hard as you can. PureHatred: ( If the choice is between a bad show with no chance of succeeding and a far lass terrible show with ALMOST no chance of succeeding..which do you choose? )Soy un perdedor I'm a loser baby So why don't you kill me? (Get crazy with the Cheez-Whiz) Soy un perdedor I'm a loser baby So why don't you kill me? -Beck "Loser" |
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Post by LWPD on Nov 18, 2006 17:56:38 GMT -5
Wow...a surprise troll. Actually what's 'hopeless' is that you're an adult who has a severe lack of reading comprehension. While quoting and then attempting to troll a post with disconnected content is sophmoric...your copy cat formatting was touching in a 'sincerest form of flattery' sort of way. I could reciprocate with a 'copy cat' style level response...but that would mean purposely misspelling words, poor grammar and slowing myself down to the speed of stupid...so I'll just pass.  This is comedy gold on a variety of levels...yet even if I was willing to waste my time teaching you 'why'...you wouldn't 'get it'...just as you didn't grasp the meaning behind the post that you're initially guilty of trolling. That's actually one of the elements that makes it all so funny. Every public forum needs those who willingly play the role of jesters or clowns to intentionally or unintentionally provide amusement and entertainment value with their folly...and I thank you for volunteering to play that role to perfection.
LWPD (when quoting song lyrics it's best to link the accompanying video in a streaming form...it creates a more substantive posting for those reading and perhaps later even listening...or at the very least it can help to make the posted content somewhat 'lass terrible' than it may otherwise have been ;D)
You can’t write if you can’t relate
Trade the cash for the beef
For the body for the hate
-Beck 'Loser'
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Post by PureHatred on Nov 18, 2006 18:34:11 GMT -5
Wow...a surprise troll. Actually what's 'hopeless' is that you're an adult who has a severe lack of reading comprehension. While quoting and then attempting to troll a post with disconnected content is sophmoric...your copy cat formatting was touching in a 'sincerest form of flattery' sort of way. I could reciprocate with a 'copy cat' style level response...but that would mean purposely misspelling words, poor grammar and slowing myself down to the speed of stupid...so I'll just pass. This is comedy gold on a variety of levels...yet even if I was willing to waste my time teaching you 'why'...you wouldn't 'get it'...just as you didn't grasp the meaning behind the post that you're initially guilty of trolling. That's actually one of the elements that makes it all so funny. Every public forum needs those who willingly play the role of jesters or clowns to intentionally or unintentionally provide amusement and entertainment value with their folly...and I thank you for volunteering to play that role to perfection.
LWPD (when quoting song lyrics it's best to link the accompanying video in a streaming form...it creates a more substantive posting for those reading and perhaps later even listening...or at the very least it can help to make the posted content somewhat 'lass terrible' than it may otherwise have been ;D)
You can’t write if you can’t relate
Trade the cash for the beef
For the body for the hate
-Beck 'Loser' O no..you attacked my spelling. LWPD you are under the mistaken impression that anybody who disagrees with you is somehow not "as smart" as you or "just doesn't get it." This is exaclty what you did during the Eirc Bischoff discussion as well. Your pitch about TNA has been pretty consistent: that anyone who complains about Jeff Jarrett doesn't understand that wrestling is such a poor investment that it doesn't matter whether TNA psuhes Jarrett as its main eventer or not, its pretty much not going to make a difference. You've said that we should be thankfulf for JJ being able to "trick" Dixie Carter and Panda into providing any kind of alternative, since any reasonable person would look at it as a bad investment and stayed away. And now you come in and say "I told you so" because the rating shows that TNA is in a hopeless spot, whereby even if they did push the other people on its roster, it will still struggle to compete. And amybe you're right. Maybe there's no reason to believe TNA will ever, EVER be able be a real national company. But if you were running acompany, wouldn;t you at least give it your best shot? Is that really so insanely unreasonable that you can't even accept that notion? I mean..don't you owe it to the fans who have supported you financially through so many incarnations to at least TRY to put on the best show possible? You absolutely know that Jarrett isn't the solution, so why not try pushing other wrestlers? Even if you fail, you'll fail putting out a better product and you'll give yourself a chance at creating a real draw , even if it is a slim chance. I just don't get how a fan of wrestling in general - or hell, a fan of anything - can accept a sub-standard effort just because the odds oagainst success are long. Because that's the only thing you're preaching: TNA fans should accept a bad product because TNA will never really achieve any real measure of success. So stop complaining. |
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