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Post by Splattercat on Jun 19, 2006 1:24:15 GMT -5
As you all know, I'm a fan of the TNA product...Lately however, I've found TNA to be increasingly brazen with their WWE bashing...Personally I have no problem with this, as up until recently it's been limited to ex-WWE workers (i.e: 3D, Christian) taking the shots...Much like X-Pac did when he joined DX, they have every right to voice their opinions concerning their former employment...
However, after watching Slammiversary, I noticed that Jim Cornette, as well as Mike Tenay, made some fairly "point-blank" comments towards WWE...All I have to say is that TNA needs to pick their targets, and not take every free shot they can at WWE...As much as the comments made by the wrestlers can be amusing, TNA isn't ready for an open war with WWE...We all remember what happened when Schiavone gave away the Foley/Rock Raw ending right..? Half a million people changed the channel....
TNA isn't in a position to make such a mistake, but I do think they need to tone it down...Let Team 3D have their fun, but leave the rest of the TNA staff out of it and concentrate on making their show work...
Just an observation I wanted to share....
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Post by swarm on Jun 19, 2006 7:28:24 GMT -5
I totally agree with you 100% splattercat. TNA is the "WrestleWars" of modern day wrestling...and we all know how they turned out.
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Post by gwffantrav on Jun 19, 2006 8:57:19 GMT -5
I totally agree with you 100% splattercat. TNA is the "WrestleWars" of modern day wrestling...and we all know how they turned out. Ohhh come on DR, you know Wrestlewars is the cutting edge for dice rolling wrestling games! They had a freaking ad in PWI for goodness sakes!!!  |
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Post by Chewey on Jun 19, 2006 9:26:35 GMT -5
I am very out of the loop on this... Is WrestleWars the "competitor" that was briefly mentioned in Tom's book that called up Tom and promised to put him out of business?
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Post by swarm on Jun 19, 2006 9:29:13 GMT -5
I am very out of the loop on this... Is WrestleWars the "competitor" that was briefly mentioned in Tom's book that called up Tom and promised to put him out of business? yep. any good business man knows you don't build your business by bad-mouthing the competition...TNA has more than a few guys they could talk about and build around vs. always wasting time bad-mouthing the E. and why are they playing off a WWE storyline that happened 13 years ago in Earl Hebner...how stupid. |
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Post by pikemojo on Jun 19, 2006 14:16:47 GMT -5
Well to be fair Cornette worked for/with WWE for a long time. Tenay on the other hand should focus on the action in the ring.
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Post by Chris Ingersoll on Jun 19, 2006 15:07:07 GMT -5
and why are they playing off a WWE storyline that happened 13 years ago in Earl Hebner...how stupid. Well, let's be fair here: it's not like the WWE (or a significant portion of the fanbase) has let it go yet, either. |
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Post by ThePunisher on Jun 19, 2006 15:59:20 GMT -5
I was surprised to hear how the KOTM match ended and with splattercat's insight into the announcing, etc., I think TNA is going the wrong way down a one-way street.
To use your time to mention the competition is just a bad move. No matter how engrained the hate for the WWE is in someone, it just conjures up all of the old memories and happenings in the WWF/E.
Not to forget that if Vince wanted an arrangement like he did with ECW, TNA has thrown that idea out the window. I'm expecting a lot of the TNA youngsters to jump ship (ECW has room for them).
I think TNA is turning into the WWE Reject Therapy Session.
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Post by PureHatred on Jun 19, 2006 16:10:58 GMT -5
and why are they playing off a WWE storyline that happened 13 years ago in Earl Hebner...how stupid. Well, let's be fair here: it's not like the WWE (or a significant portion of the fanbase) has let it go yet, either. But it's THEIR storyline. This is just as lame as the WWE trying to rehash the nWo. |
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Post by swarm on Jun 19, 2006 16:12:03 GMT -5
and why are they playing off a WWE storyline that happened 13 years ago in Earl Hebner...how stupid. Well, let's be fair here: it's not like the WWE (or a significant portion of the fanbase) has let it go yet, either. I see what you're saying but at least in the WWE it's their story-line... it's pretty sorry when you have to borrow story-lines from your biggest competition. |
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Post by swarm on Jun 19, 2006 16:13:14 GMT -5
Well, let's be fair here: it's not like the WWE (or a significant portion of the fanbase) has let it go yet, either. But it's THEIR storyline. This is just as lame as the WWE trying to rehash the nWo. Damn you Purehatred...this is what I get for not reading the whole thread. |
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Post by Chewey on Jun 19, 2006 19:09:30 GMT -5
Hahaha, I know from personal experience what it feels like to have Pure Hatred respond with your own words a couple of minutes before you do so yourself. He seems to have a knack for it. ;D
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Post by Mr. Jimmyface on Jun 19, 2006 21:38:56 GMT -5
One of the paramount things I do in my COTG feds is to protect my Heavyweight Championship. The state of your Heavyweight title must remain strong in order for your company to be solid. Last night, TNA flushed a lot of their momentum and credibility down the drain with a horrible PPV. To re-cap,
Kevin Nash buried the X Division. This is a nice way to tell a group of aspiring young talent that you will never be over so long as big men wrestle on a part time basis. See you guys in ECW.
They introduced Jim Cornette as the new public face of TNA. Cornette stated that he wanted people that had great matches, sold PPV's and drew ratings. In other words, I am going to revisit and rehash every angle and wrestler from the past and squeeze one more drop out of them. Heaven forbid they take the time to build and develop new talent, but then again, see the above statement.
The title gets held up in a controversial manner based on an old WWE storyline. Yeah, I remember the last time a NWA based title went through that treatment when Vince Russo tried it with Bret Hart and Bill Goldberg. That worked sooo well in 1999. It's bad enough to take away the credibility of your world title using a crappy non conclusive finisher - but doing it over an old WWE storyline, man, that's like trying to date that hot cheerleader from high school when your bald, fat and 40-something.
Pathetic!
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Post by PureHatred on Jun 19, 2006 22:25:33 GMT -5
I strongly disagree with most of your post.
Nash didin't "bury" the X-Division. Sabin put on a great match, and had Nash up for the Cradle Sock before Shelley interfered. Saying Nash "buried" the X Division in a match like that is standard issue net fan complaining. C'mon...if the face wins the first encounter then what's the purpose of continuing the feud? Its Booking 101.
Also, Cornette talked about making the guys on the rotser into stars today. The entire promo was basically to push the 'new faces' of TNA. He was saying that he wanted guys that produced ratings, even if they weren't necessarily "names." i think you misunderstood.
BUt I definitely get and agree with you final poiint.
I'll reiterate: really great show, but the ending of the main event was SO BAD that it spoiled the show for me and left a sour taste in my mouth for future TNA viewing.
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Post by Splattercat on Jun 20, 2006 1:45:38 GMT -5
I strongly disagree with most of your post. Nash didin't "bury" the X-Division. Sabin put on a great match, and had Nash up for the Cradle Sock before Shelley interfered. Saying Nash "buried" the X Division in a match like that is standard issue net fan complaining. C'mon...if the face wins the first encounter then what's the purpose of continuing the feud? Its Booking 101. Also, Cornette talked about making the guys on the rotser into stars today. The entire promo was basically to push the 'new faces' of TNA. He was saying that he wanted guys that produced ratings, even if they weren't necessarily "names." i think you misunderstood. BUt I definitely get and agree with you final poiint. I'll reiterate: really great show, but the ending of the main event was SO BAD that it spoiled the show for me and left a sour taste in my mouth for future TNA viewing. Hehehe...Cradle Sock... ;D I agree, as far as endings go, that ranks up there with P**s-poor...At the end I was really enthralled to see who was going to take it...For those who didn't see, Sting and Cristian on either side of the ladder fighting over the belt...If Sting wins he becomes an 8 time (6 WCW 2 NWA) world champion...This opens the probable storyline of Sting defending his belt for a couple months or so until he hacks off Joe, then Joe gets put over in a MAJOR way, by beating Sting for the World Title*...If Christian wins he becomes the only man to retain his title in the KotM match, thus adding more weight to his title reign... Then...Earl Hebner pushes the ladder over, Jarrett scurries up the ladder like a Navy SEAL under fire and wins.... I'm going to be watching TNA on Thursday, though not out of "What's going to happen next?" interest, but of "How the hell are the going to salvage this?" interest.... *Sting has said that he wants to be in a program with Samoa Joe...Personally I think Sting dropping his last World Title to him would be huge... |
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Post by GrumpyBigBee on Jun 20, 2006 10:09:36 GMT -5
agree 100% and I didnt know that Tom was contacted and stuff... wow!
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Post by thefamoustommyz on Jun 20, 2006 15:21:42 GMT -5
I am very out of the loop on this... Is WrestleWars the "competitor" that was briefly mentioned in Tom's book that called up Tom and promised to put him out of business? yep. any good business man knows you don't build your business by bad-mouthing the competition...TNA has more than a few guys they could talk about and build around vs. always wasting time bad-mouthing the E. Not really anything to do with the topic at hand...but wasn't it actually the guys that made the WWF roleplaying game that called him up and taunted him? I was thinking the whole WrestleWars thing didn't happen until after Dark Menace had already seen print. |
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Post by Chris Ingersoll on Jun 21, 2006 9:15:40 GMT -5
yep. any good business man knows you don't build your business by bad-mouthing the competition...TNA has more than a few guys they could talk about and build around vs. always wasting time bad-mouthing the E. Not really anything to do with the topic at hand...but wasn't it actually the guys that made the WWF roleplaying game that called him up and taunted him? I was thinking the whole WrestleWars thing didn't happen until after Dark Menace had already seen print. You may be confusing the WW thing that happened here with one that seems to have happened behind the scenes, possibly while WW was still in production. That's the way I interpreted it, anyway. |
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Post by thefamoustommyz on Jun 21, 2006 18:46:57 GMT -5
I was still thinking it was the WWF Adventure Game guys that called him up...oh well.
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