GOLDBERG is coming to TNA...

[madacapa]

According to "Lords of Pain" Bill Goldberg is in talks with TNA, which means that it is inevitable that he will make a deal with them. It will probably be the same type of deal that Sting has with TNA. I would like to see a Goldberg v. Steiner match, but thats just me. I am not expecting that much from Goldberg, because he is very limited in the ring...so is Steiner...I expect a short match...

[Joe]

Thanks for the update. I'm sure it is inevitable that Goldberg will come to TNA and feud with Steiner, thus single-handedly killing any "wrestling" credibility that TNA has.

[PureHatred]

LoP is generally full of crap, but this is being reported on 1wrestling.com:

In his latest journal entry on BillGoldberg.com, Goldberg says the following:

TNA Wrestling moved to Thursday nights (11 p.m. ET) on Spike-TV. That's a positive sign for TNA. The appearance of some of my old buddies on TNA, such as Scott and Rick Steiner, certainly will help their cause. I wish TNA nothing but the best and, yes, I can tell you that I've been in contact with TNA officials. The potential for a comeback definitely exists.

Based on Bill's blog on his website, it sound slike he's negotiating and probably=(based on the deals he's gotten in WCW and WWE) wants more money than TNA can pay. Not sure if its's "inevitable"..but I doubt Goldberg would be interested in doing anything except wrestling his buddies.

Too bad. i think Bill *could* be a draw, but he'd only want to come in if he could destroy everyone on the roster and be paid as if it was 2001.

[madacapa]

Goldberg is coming back and he will sign with TNA. It will not be for WCW money, because 2001 was 5 years ago, and he realizes that. It will be a short term deal, like Sting's, and it will designed just to get a***s in the seats for PPV's. If used properly, Goldberg can be a great draw...just like the ULTIMATE WARRIOR! YES!

[swarm]

Bad move. Why can't these idiots just let the past be the past and push the few solid guys they do have to the top of thier cards?

It's not F'ing rocket science TNA...damn, do you suck.

[canadianpittbull]

They should get Umanga!!! he has the size , beat Ric Flair and gasp!... Tattoos!;D (just kidding with ya!).

[GalactiKing]

Goldberg signing won't do much. He was only successful during the streak...once that ended, people stopped caring. Unless you want TNA to sacrifice everyone to him, what good will it do? It's not like he's going to job.

[swarm]

canadianpittbull said:

They should get Umanga!!! he has the size , beat Ric Flair and gasp!... Tattoos!;D (just kidding with ya!).

oh. good one.

[PureHatred]

madacapa said:

Goldberg is coming back and he will sign with TNA. It will not be for WCW money, because 2001 was 5 years ago, and he realizes that. It will be a short term deal, like Sting's, and it will designed just to get a***s in the seats for PPV's. If used properly, Goldberg can be a great draw...just like the ULTIMATE WARRIOR! YES!

It's posts like this that pretty much prove you're a troll.

[Joe]

Truthfully, TNA sign Goldberg would probably benefit the company short-term. TNA would do better TV ratings and PPV sales with Goldberg than ever before, because unlike the other fossils on its roster, he is still a pretty legitimate name.

Then, after he's decimated the entire roster or blasted the company for misusing him by not allowing him to do so, he will leave. A few of the new fans will probably stick around, but in all likelihood, TNA will be right back where it is now.

[madacapa]

I would like to see the Ultimate Warrior sign with TNA for the same reasons I want Goldberg too. A short term deal just to get a***s in the seats. By the way, I resent being called a troll, because it is not f*****g true.

[Splattercat]

I still think so of you guys can't see past the streak....

Maybe Goldberg doesn't want to walk through everyone and crush the entire roster...If, like Sting, he has a few guys in mind that he wants to face, what's the harm..?

I personally think that if someone homegrown in TNA can give Goldberg a Clean loss, that would certainly put that person on the map...

[Splattercat]

madacapa said:

I would like to see the Ultimate Warrior sign with TNA for the same reasons I want Goldberg too. A short term deal just to get a***s in the seats. By the way, I resent being called a troll, because it is not f*****g true.

Then you do know that Ultimate Warrior isn't a wrestler anymore, nor will he ever be right..?

[thefamoustommyz]

The problem is that many of us saw past The Streak. That is, we saw what a horrible failure Goldberg was, as a performer and as a draw, once the streak was over.

In fact, you can almost draw a line detailing the decline of business in WCW with Goldberg's push. They basically peaked shortly before Starrcade '97...then, as The Streak was picking up steam, business began dropping off.

For Christ's sake, they piped in "Goldberg" chants to make the fans cheer for him. And don't tell me that won't work...a crowd of pliable people can be led so easily it's nuts. All they have to do is think someone else is chanting it, and there they go....

Fact is, Goldberg wouldn't sell for Jericho because he was "too small"...Jericho's the same size as, or larger, than most of TNA's roster. Do that math.

As far as putting butts in seats...well...TNA has a packed crowd every taping...since they don't charge admission. He might pop a buyrate...but really...what are the chances that he'll even consider sharing the spotlight with a TNA star...any TNA star? Much less putting them over?

There's better chance of Nash following through with this whole "Put over Sabin" plan.

[PureHatred]

Nah..a lot of people who know what they're talking about (Heenan, Cornette, Heyman, even Vince) have admitted that Goldberg was good for business and that he was a big reason for WCW ratings after the nWo began tailing off. As a matter of fact, those people have even said that the biggest mistake WCW made was killing off his heat by giving him a title and then sticking him in the midcard (while Hogan and Savage main evneted PPVs) and then by having him job to Nash which led to the finger poke of doom.

I'm not defending Bill as a worker. He's still fairly bad there. But he was a draw. Fans cheered for him before the piped in chants. Fans counted his wins before the WCW was pushing 'the streak.' He was a legit star.

The probelm I'd have with him being in TNA is that he works only one style of match and only one type of character.

He's below mediocre on the mic and really the one thing his crappy run in the WWE proved is that Goldberg is not really entertaining (and doesn't really put in much of an effort) unless he's squashing people. I'd have a problem as a fan paying to see him come in and wrestle his fans because I don't watch TNA toi see WCW reruns. I like the new stars. I have zero - ZERO - interest ina Goldberg/Steiner or Sting match. Seeing Joe/Goldberg..yeah, I'd be interested.

But Bill isn't putting anyone over. He might pop a buy-rate but he's bad for the company in the long-run...just like Savage and Nash and DDP and Buff and Lex and ..

[PureHatred]

madacapa said:

I would like to see the Ultimate Warrior sign with TNA for the same reasons I want Goldberg too. A short term deal just to get a***s in the seats. By the way, I resent being called a troll, because it is not f*****g true.

No reasonable person would pay money to see Warrior. They might tune in to Impact in the same way people slow down to watch car crashes, but no one is buying a PV to watch him. He's a joke. He's been a joke since his last run in WCW and its even worse now. The last time most fans have seen him was the WWE DVD that completely trashed him and/or when he was on CNN saying "QUEERING WON"T MAKE THE WORLD GO AROUND!" adn spazzing out at college kids.

[pikemojo]

purehatred said:

madacapa said:

I would like to see the Ultimate Warrior sign with TNA for the same reasons I want Goldberg too. A short term deal just to get a***s in the seats. By the way, I resent being called a troll, because it is not f*****g true.

No reasonable person would pay money to see Warrior. They might tune in to Impact in the same way people slow down to watch car crashes, but no one is buying a PV to watch him. He's a joke. He's been a joke since his last run in WCW and its even worse now. The last time most fans have seen him was the WWE DVD that completely trashed him and/or when he was on CNN saying "QUEERING WON"T MAKE THE WORLD GO AROUND!" adn spazzing out at college kids.

I don't always agree with you but I just can't possibly disagree with this. There are very few people that would waste their time on Warrior at this point much less spend their hard earned money.
Goldberg is quite a bit more profitable than Warrior in my eyes but still would be a bad move for TNA unless he was willing to put over the younger guys which most likely he isn't. So, TNA, don't do it.

[billy]

is it me or is TNA becoming like WCW all over again. Sting ,Steiner Luger, Jarrett, DDP. TNA doesn't need Goldberg. They have the talent to survive with what they got. X division! These guys are making TNA really worh watching and they are better than WWE has offered up in years.Stope bringing in has beens or never was's and use the talents that brought you to the dance and or be orginal and sign people that no one has heard of from other indies to use as fresh new talent to keep things fresh and exciting instead of the old boring Goldberg, Nash and Sting.

[ringsyde]

Therein lies the problem; TNA doesn't have the clout or the measured success to say no to the old WCW machine or the WWE cast-offs. This leads to TNA ultimately eating its young (from Daniels to Styles and all points in between) to make room for the "name" talent that stinks up the joint with the odor of a failed WCW of years past.

I love TNA when Low-Ki (screw the new name), Styles, Brown, Daniels and other young and undiscovered talent were allowed to shine and carry the company, but I lose tolerance everytime an over-the-hill Vader, Dusty, Nash, Sting (face it, people), Steiner or Goldberg shows up. TNA's banking on their names to get people excited, but fans have become so accustomed to the athleticism of the current WWE (say what you will, but most of the current roster is in better shape and has better stamina than at any time in recent memory) and the athleticism that TNA force-fed us for the first two years of its existence that seeing Kevin Nash pass out and Sting struggle to recover from a dropkick ain't gonna cut it. Ultimately, Total Nonstop Action becomes Total Sellout to the Past.

[swarm]

ringsyde said:

Therein lies the problem; TNA doesn't have the clout or the measured success to say no to the old WCW machine or the WWE cast-offs. This leads to TNA ultimately eating its young (from Daniels to Styles and all points in between) to make room for the "name" talent that stinks up the joint with the odor of a failed WCW of years past.

I love TNA when Low-Ki (screw the new name), Styles, Brown, Daniels and other young and undiscovered talent were allowed to shine and carry the company, but I lose tolerance everytime an over-the-hill Vader, Dusty, Nash, Sting (face it, people), Steiner or Goldberg shows up. TNA's banking on their names to get people excited, but fans have become so accustomed to the athleticism of the current WWE (say what you will, but most of the current roster is in better shape and has better stamina than at any time in recent memory) and the athleticism that TNA force-fed us for the first two years of its existence that seeing Kevin Nash pass out and Sting struggle to recover from a dropkick ain't gonna cut it. Ultimately, Total Nonstop Action becomes Total Sellout to the Past.

excellent post. I think we have a winner.