Sting/Samoa Joe

[hooligans2]

So supposedly now Joe is going to be Sting's partner at the PPV against JJ and Steiner? Um, where does this make sense? I understand that Joe will get the rub from Sting and make him more popular, which the fans want anyway, but I like Joe as a bad-@$$ in the X-Division. I just don't get it. Of course, I don't really watch TNA anymore anyhow. My mom watches it (she likes the old-timers like Nash, Steiner, Luger, etc.), and she told me about this.

[PureHatred]

This paragraph says a lot about the TNA product.

[floydthebarber]

When I first saw the news I thought 'nice...this will help push Joe to the Main Event, which is what TNA should be doing.' Thinking about it more, a lot will depend on what Joe does (or what they do with Joe). Joe could either get over as a 'Goldberg' type fan favorite...or he could turn on Sting and cement his status as one of the most feared and hated men in the fed (along with JJJ of course). I guess it all depends on what kind of World Champion they want him to be...heel or face.

The PPV from top to bottom is pretty solid...I like the all cage match PPV idea (don't love it though...) and it gives TNA a chance to have a yearly PPV where guys can look to settle old scores and end feuds.

[hawk]

I haven't defended TNA in awhile...but this move makes sense.

A couple weeks ago, Jeff disrespected Joe by interupting him post match. Thats all Joe needs to hurt someone. That's his motivation. Jeff and Steiner disrespected him. They must die. Sting's just an easy way to do it.

[floydthebarber]

Oh it makes a lot of sense because of that 'interaction' they had before...but there is also the possibility its a set up as well and Sting is going to be locked in a Cage with 3 guys? I'd lean towards him taking JJJ and BPP to task for showing him no respect...but either way its a nice bit of booking and helps ease Joe into the BIG Title picture...

[Mr. Jimmyface]

It makes sense if you look at if from a different view point.

That view point is that a good chunk of people watching this know of Sting, then Steiner, and then Jarrett. Their names are familiar to the masses, whereas Joe has not gotten too much mainstream exposure. If this match is booked right with Samoa Joe pulling off some incredible spots, this will make the people watching this who are unfamiliar with the name of Samoa Joe go, "Wow! Did you see that guy?", and repeat that sentence to fans who may not be watching him or the show.

Of course, all of this is subject to a good match, so I'll wait and see if that theory can be proven true or not.

[PureHatred]

Hey FloydTheBarber: This PPV is Sacrifice. the All cage PPV is Lockdown and the happened last month.

I honestly think that Joe and Steiner will have some sort of interaction and JJ wil gety a 'cont4oversial' win over Sting leading into the next PPV where Sting and JJ will face off and Joe will get a match against Steiner, built as the two most destructive guys in the business, or something similar.

[floydthebarber]

I thought Lockdown was taking a long time to go down. So Cage beat Abyss at Lockdown, but Abyss stole his belt?

S***, just googled the results...I remember reading about them, but for some reason I forgot the PPV even happened. My bad...

[Mr. Jimmyface]

That is sad when you cannot remember a company's PPV.

This is not a criticism of Floyd The Barber, who is a knowledgable and awesome poster, and can cut my hair anytime. This is a criticism of the quality of TNA PPV when nothing stands out.

[LWPD]

It'll be interesting to see how much of SJ's offense established older vets like Jeff Jarrett and Scott Steiner agree to take. I can't see Steiner agreeing to 'Face Wash' or 'Ole Kick' spots or Jarrett allowing himself to take a 'Muscle Buster'. Makes things interesting for those who watch with a critical eye.

LWPD (if they do a turn after the match to keep Samoa Joe 'independent and without allegiance'...you still face the same limitations if he works a program with Sting)

[PureHatred]

larstoxik said:

That is sad when you cannot remember a company's PPV.

This is not a criticism of Floyd The Barber, who is a knowledgable and awesome poster, and can cut my hair anytime. This is a criticism of the quality of TNA PPV when nothing stands out.

Dude this thread started out with a poster saying he didn't even watch the product anymore, but his MOM did because "she likes the old-timers."

That's not exactly a rave review, either.

[hooligans2]

You've got that right...she only watches it WHEN they show the old-timers. I try to convince her that that's not necessarily a good thing, but what do I know?

[hawk]

Steiner will take some of Joe's stuff, but if Joe even attempts the Muscle Buster on him, Steiner will blow apart.

Jeff's going to bump like he's never bumped before probably.

[floydthebarber]

I could totally see JJJ bumping in an attempt to look like HHH does when he's in the ring 'selling' another superstar. If JJJ stars doing that more, and maybe takes the 1b slot instead of the 1a then that will be a step in the right direction.

As for Steiner, I'd expect him to take his fair share of punishment and stiff shots, just like he's going to dish out his fair share...maybe these 'old timers' are really going to do the right thing and start elevating some of the other talent. HHH picks and chooses his spots...so I'm not expecting these guys to job to everyone on the roster...but it can't hurt to have one or two more guys who can Main Event...they've done it with Abyss and Styles...and Joe is almost there.

[thefamoustommyz]

Given Steiner's rep, he and Joe might go for an all-out stiff-fest.

But it makes sense t me, from a kayfabe point of view...Sting needs a partner. Previous partner Christian is busy, as is AJ. He went to his old buddies, but Jarrett backed off on it. So he went to the most dangerous man in the company and let Jarrett pick his own poison. As for Joe...well, Joe needs a reason to kill someone? And from the kayfabe viewpoint, it was two weeks ago that Steiner and Jarrett confronted/disrespected/interrupted Joe...Sting's offer to team with him is just a means to an end.

And from a smark perspective, they've built Joe up like a huge deal here. Jarrett looked afraid and Steiner looked cautious, after they had ran down Sting "pathetic" choices in the weeks prior, basically saying "Those guys are jokes, but Joe might kill us."

[thefamoustommyz]

lwpd said:

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LWPD (if they do a turn after the match to keep Samoa Joe 'independent and without allegiance'...you still face the same limitations if he works a program with Sting)

Not necessarily...it's not like Sting has a huge track record of refusing to take guys moves...honestly, neither do Steiner and Jarrett. In fact, Sting volunteered to take Jindrak and O'Haire's double-biel from the floor to the ring, against the advice of Lance Storm and Kevin Nash, and nearly got killed in the process because they couldn't get him over the top rope from the floor.

His reasoning? (rough paraphrase, source is Lance Storm) "Hey, I'm just tryin' to get these kids over."

[daytondave]

It will be verrrrrry interesting to see where this goes. LWPD makes an interesting point about Steiner and JJ being willing (or even capable) of selling for Joe.

If I were booking this, I would give Sting and Joe a huge push. Put them over Steiner and JJ. Put them over AMW and put the belts on them. Then the payoff happens when Joe turns on Sting in a Dusty / Ole moment during the rematch against JJ and Steiner. With that heat, Joe becomes a monster heel with a defining moment.

Sadly, nobody on TNA's booking committee has asked my opinion yet. ;D

[Tournament Master]

I think its in the best interest of Jarret to put Joe over, as Joe is the guy that can help TNA out in the long term. Then again, JJ doesn't have the best track record of doing what is the best thing for the company.