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Post by PureHatred on May 11, 2006 11:35:03 GMT -5
Credit: PWTorch Newsletter
Last week on TNA iMPACT!, we saw Part 1 of Alex Shelly's interview with Kevin Nash (Part 2 airs tonight). Nash put himself over as the biggest draw in the history of the wrestling business, with a chart that showed he generated more money than Hulk Hogan, Steve Austin, The Rock or Bret Hart ever did.
Nash also went on a rant about how the stars of the X-Division were "good little guys who can give you a good little match. It's basically filler." Many people may have seen this and felt the X-Division was about to get officially burried. However, this is not the case - as there are big plans for this storyline.
Nash has been outspoken against smaller wrestlers for years, coining the phrase "vanilla midgets" back in WCW - for the way the smaller guys had great matches but had very bland [if any] personalities.
Originally proposed by Kevin Nash, the idea for the TNA storyline is that Nash will begin by speaking about about how the X-Division guys are talented, but all they can do is put on spotfests and they are not "main event" caliber talent. Nash will wrestle X-Division stars and defeat them easily at first. As time goes by, he'll have a harder time defeating the X wrestlers, perhaps having to cheat to get the wins. In the end, the plan is for Nash to cleanly put over one of the top X-Division stars and hopefully in the process show the fans that the X-Division really is on par with the heavyweight division.
Nash proposed that A.J. Styles beat him in the conclusion of his X Division angle, but more recently, the belief is that Styles does not need the rub from Nash, as he's already seen as a legitimate star in TNA. The latest plans are for Chris Sabin to be the man to defend the honor of the division. Sabin is considered a favorite of booking committee head Scott D'Amore.
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Post by PureHatred on May 11, 2006 11:36:14 GMT -5
This actually sounds like a great way to use a name to build one of your homegrown stars. How'd they slide this past Jarrett?
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Post by swarm on May 11, 2006 11:38:20 GMT -5
his quad will never make it throught that story-line...
Nash may not sell, but his quad sells everything...
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Post by Joe on May 11, 2006 11:48:30 GMT -5
If Nash's health holds up, this is a good angle. Truthfully, it is the first good, well thought-out storyline I have heard involving TNA. Sabin is a good choice, as he is so young and has displayed personality in the past. AJ Styles, although a big name already, would be an excellent choice, too.
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Post by gwffantrav on May 11, 2006 11:51:59 GMT -5
Not a bad storyline at all...if it plays out, would really be nice to see Nash giving back to the sport that made him a very rich man.
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Post by Wildfire on May 11, 2006 12:16:27 GMT -5
Sounds like a cool story, but I second that I'm VERY skeptical that Nash will hold up physically...
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Post by swarm on May 11, 2006 12:42:31 GMT -5
I agree it's a nice story-line but c'mon already...I am not stupid enough to think beating guys like Sting and Nash at this point in thier careers means anything at all cause it does not...
there are a hundred better ways to get the X divison guys over than having them beat and old and broken down peice of crap has-been like Nash...
if you don't agree, you are basically telling me that if I tackled Jim Brown TODAY, I am all of a sudden an amazing NFL player...
it's stupid.
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Post by sickman on May 11, 2006 13:06:27 GMT -5
Actually Jim Brown today may be better than Nash of today. ;p
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Post by Splattercat on May 11, 2006 23:33:59 GMT -5
Well then, what would happen if say, Brock Lesner went to TNA and did the same thing, calling out all the X-Division guys..? Would that give them credability..?
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Post by PureHatred on May 11, 2006 23:49:19 GMT -5
Well then, what would happen if say, Brock Lesner went to TNA and did the same thing, calling out all the X-Division guys..? Would that give them credability..? That's really not a fair comparison. Lesnar is at a really different point in his career than Nash. But going off your question, having an X Division guy go over Brock would be a huge boost to their career.
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Post by Splattercat on May 11, 2006 23:52:02 GMT -5
I dunno, I just pulled a name out of the air that didn't work for WCW...
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Post by pistonhurricane on May 12, 2006 7:38:27 GMT -5
i watched a little of the show last night, and is it me or does it look like they are trying to play Sonjay Dutt in the role Rey Mysterio had with Nash a few years ago in WCW?
Hopefully, Nash will play the roll of "catcher" to the high flyers and tear his quad... im not sure if that would give credibility to the x division, but i think it would make for fun tv.
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Post by madacapa on May 12, 2006 10:37:35 GMT -5
Yes, if TNA is using Nash to put the X-Division guys over, then it is a good storyline. It was one of the few entertaining parts of last night's show. HOWEVER, Nash is an ego maniac and I can not believe he will accept the role of a high paid jobber...which is what HHH has become...
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Post by thefamoustommyz on May 12, 2006 12:42:39 GMT -5
i watched a little of the show last night, and is it me or does it look like they are trying to play Sonjay Dutt in the role Rey Mysterio had with Nash a few years ago in WCW?[/ quote] Looking at the original post, I'd say it's not Sonjay's destiny to be humiliated by Nash and then score the shocking upset...I'd say it's Sonjay's destiny to be his first victim...then they'll gradually get around to someone beating him.
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Post by Splattercat on May 12, 2006 15:46:53 GMT -5
Yes, if TNA is using Nash to put the X-Division guys over, then it is a good storyline. It was one of the few entertaining parts of last night's show. HOWEVER, Nash is an ego maniac and I can not believe he will accept the role of a high paid jobber...which is what HHH has become... Just because Trips doesn't have the belt, and hasn't for a while, doesn't make him a jobber...You can't tell me that every time you see Triple H in a match, you don't expect him to win...I expected him to win at Wrestlemania, I expected him to win a Backlash, and I expect him to win at the next Pay Per View, and I CERTAINLY expect him to win everytime he steps into the ring on Raw...I think Jobbers are the other way around no..?
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Post by pikemojo on May 12, 2006 16:16:49 GMT -5
I am pretty sure Sonjay will be one of the first few people Nash bowls over. I am not so sure that Sabin has the personality to get way over with the fans. We will have to see about this one. Does it mean something to beat someone like Nash or Sting at this point in their career? Of course it does. Are you kidding me? It does not mean as much as it did 10 years ago but it is still the same as beating a 7 foot tall former champ. You can't tell me it didn't mean anything for Umaga or Shelton Benjamin to beat Flair at 55 years old. He is a senior citizen and it still means that these guys are moving up on the card. Did it mean something for Edge to beat Mick Foley in a hardcore match (Mick's match). Does it mean whenever someone beats Shawn Michaels. Yes it does. Even HHH is gettin up there in age. And you better believe it means something when Batista and Cena beat him.
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Post by swarm on May 12, 2006 18:43:42 GMT -5
Does it mean whenever someone beats Shawn Michaels. Yes it does. Even HHH is gettin up there in age. And you better believe it means something when Batista and Cena beat him. Dude you're cool and all, but Booker T just asked if you said that... Comparing Nash and his ever-jobbing quad to Flair? HBK? HHHpuff, puff, pass old friend...puff, puff, pass...
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Post by Splattercat on May 13, 2006 2:00:56 GMT -5
Does it mean whenever someone beats Shawn Michaels. Yes it does. Even HHH is gettin up there in age. And you better believe it means something when Batista and Cena beat him. Triple H will be 37 in July...Is that really "getting up there"..? I suppose in 10 years will will be "up there" but 10 years is a long time in the wrestling business...Just a thought...
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Post by sickman on May 13, 2006 2:20:37 GMT -5
I am pretty sure Sonjay will be one of the first few people Nash bowls over. I am not so sure that Sabin has the personality to get way over with the fans. We will have to see about this one. Does it mean something to beat someone like Nash or Sting at this point in their career? Of course it does. Are you kidding me? It does not mean as much as it did 10 years ago but it is still the same as beating a 7 foot tall former champ. You can't tell me it didn't mean anything for Umaga or Shelton Benjamin to beat Flair at 55 years old. He is a senior citizen and it still means that these guys are moving up on the card. Did it mean something for Edge to beat Mick Foley in a hardcore match (Mick's match). Does it mean whenever someone beats Shawn Michaels. Yes it does. Even HHH is gettin up there in age. And you better believe it means something when Batista and Cena beat him. Does it mean anything to beat Nash or Sting? Today? No. Why? Because the last thing anyone remembers about Nash is him tearing his quad a few years ago in a WWE ring. And Sting? Maybe it means a little bit; but it would have meant so much more if he would have wrestled more in the last 7 years. As far as Edge beating Mic? Means nothing as far as I'm concerned. Go back a few years ago when Mic was on top; just before Edge broke his neck. Monstrous push. Just my opinions though.
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Post by swarm on May 13, 2006 7:59:17 GMT -5
you're right, beating Foley did nothing for Edge...at best, he cemented himself as a top guy simply for taking the punishment he took in thier WM match and for the flaming table spot...but that all could have been done vs. Hardy and it would have elevated both men...
I also think it's kind of lame that Edge and Foley "joined forces" last week on RAW but whatever...I won't totally judge until I see where it goes.
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