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Post by sportstalk75 on May 10, 2006 10:07:34 GMT -5
Hello everyone,
Just thought I would throw this scenerio out to everyone, it seems alot of fans question how TNA is handling its product in the sense of trying to compete with the all mighty WWE.
Here is the question: if Dixie Carter came to you and said ok hotshot you have the keys to this kingdom how would you change TNA in all aspects, without shutting the company down cause that would be the easy way out, how and what would you do.
Thanks for your time,
Rob
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Post by Vanilla Gorilla on May 10, 2006 11:16:12 GMT -5
First off, establish the talent who will be slated as the main eventers then the mid carders and so on, then production will be like yester year, the only part of the arena that had light would be the ring, second have the starts of yester year begin to pass the torch to the guy or guys in which will lead the charge then slowly faze out the old guys by at first teaming them with someone for a while until they are completely fazed out, then begin to create a story based on championship chases, feuds caused by competition not by soap opera, bring back jobbers to let the talent showcase their skills, cut down on PPV's so that a proper build up could be made with two guys in a feud. This is just the begining of the growth that TNA should be doing my ideas go on and on but this is all I will list as of now!!!
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Post by PureHatred on May 10, 2006 11:30:42 GMT -5
First off, establish the talent who will be slated as the main eventers then the mid carders and so on, then production will be like yester year, the only part of the arena that had light would be the ring, second have the starts of yester year begin to pass the torch to the guy or guys in which will lead the charge then slowly faze out the old guys by at first teaming them with someone for a while until they are completely fazed out, then begin to create a story based on championship chases, feuds caused by competition not by soap opera, bring back jobbers to let the talent showcase their skills, cut down on PPV's so that a proper build up could be made with two guys in a feud. This is just the begining of the growth that TNA should be doing my ideas go on and on but this is all I will list as of now!!! Outisde of hardcore wrestling traditionalists, who would watch this kind of promotion? |
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Post by PureHatred on May 10, 2006 11:38:44 GMT -5
My own ideas for TNA: fpr the product: scrap the ring, ditch as many of the has-beens as possible, focus on the X-Division and spotfest type talent , try to get another hour of TV, work the partnership with youtube to death, push the envelope with CrashTv type segments and characters and especially with the net show where there is no censorship, and make sure that there is a pay-off with great matches when rivals face off.
Financially: Smaller roster. Make whatever cuts necessary to put TNA in the black. Tour somewhere, anywhere.
I also don't think the goal should be to BATTLE THE WWE. Worry about making money and creating something different that people will want to watch.
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Post by floydthebarber on May 10, 2006 15:59:16 GMT -5
Hard to answer this one without getting too in depth...but if I were to start up a wrestling company, I would partner myself up with New Japan Pro Wrestling, CMLL and maybe an NWA affiliate or two and run a sort of North American Pro Wrestling federation that would have its own Main Title...but also allow for other 'Title' fights to be fought on a NAPW card. I'd run a nice sized show once a month, bringing in 2 or 3 guys from Japan, Mexico and Europe as well as a couple of names in North America (Christopher Daniels, Raven...for the die hard fans) to go along with (hopefully) the 8-12 core guys I have on my 'official' roster.
I'd tape all my shows and sell the DVD's on my website...and try to build up enough of a following as well as enough 'cred' to get a weekly 1 hour TV show...
From there...I'd try to get 1 or 2 big money sponsors and try to steal away 1 or 2 big name WWE guys (RVD, Edge, Lashley, Benoit, Shelton Benjamin, Big Show) to draw the TV fans...and go from there...
I would never expect to eclipse the WWE...but I would hope that one day, if the two of us were on at the same time, our ratings would rival each other...4.8 to 3.8...
I would expect WWE to try and steal away some of my talent, I would expect them to succeed with most of them...
I'd also hire 2-3 other 'writers' to help keep storylines fresh, but would also respect the wrestlers and work with them to find characters that fit them. No soap writers for me...strictly wretling minds...maybe have Jake The Snake on speed dial or something...
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Post by thefamoustommyz on May 10, 2006 19:50:40 GMT -5
My own ideas for TNA: fpr the product: scrap the ring, ditch as many of the has-beens as possible, focus on the X-Division and spotfest type talent , try to get another hour of TV, work the partnership with youtube to death, push the envelope with CrashTv type segments and characters and especially with the net show where there is no censorship, and make sure that there is a pay-off with great matches when rivals face off. And the problem with this is that Crash TV generally only works with heaping helpings of Sports Entertainment, while most of the spotfest guys can't act or speak to save their lives...so you have spotfests that only half the smark crowd cares about and sports entertainment segments that bomb out because everyone looks like deer in headlights reading off teleprompters. |
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Post by PureHatred on May 10, 2006 21:11:40 GMT -5
My own ideas for TNA: fpr the product: scrap the ring, ditch as many of the has-beens as possible, focus on the X-Division and spotfest type talent , try to get another hour of TV, work the partnership with youtube to death, push the envelope with CrashTv type segments and characters and especially with the net show where there is no censorship, and make sure that there is a pay-off with great matches when rivals face off. And the problem with this is that Crash TV generally only works with heaping helpings of Sports Entertainment, while most of the spotfest guys can't act or speak to save their lives...so you have spotfests that only half the smark crowd cares about and sports entertainment segments that bomb out because everyone looks like deer in headlights reading off teleprompters. Y'know..I'd possibly debate this but based on LWPD's post in the Cornette thread, I'm going to go ahead and admit that there's no hope for success by any means and call it a day. |
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Post by thefamoustommyz on May 11, 2006 1:46:23 GMT -5
Well, LWPD will find a way to prove there's no hope to anything...=)
Hey, I freely admit that I have no clue what to do here.
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Post by PureHatred on May 11, 2006 10:09:50 GMT -5
Well, LWPD will find a way to prove there's no hope to anything...=) Hey, I freely admit that I have no clue what to do here. LWPD...Lowering Will Power Daily. |
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Post by sickman on May 11, 2006 13:18:16 GMT -5
Thats pretty funny.
As someone else already stated; don't try and compete with the WWE. Just be yourselves.
As far as what would work to be a good promotion? You would have to find that thing that takes off; like the "Attitude" era or the NWO.
But you would have to keep the internet out of it. Stop leaking things to the press. I really think that the internet and fans becoming "smarter" ruined wrestling. We all knew that wrestling was a work, but we watched wrestling for the entertainment of it. I stopped watching wrestling for a year in the 90s and when I came back; holy s**t, Diesal and Razor are in WCW now? Is this real? Thats the same reaction the next big boom in wrestling is gonna have, imo.
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Post by pikemojo on May 11, 2006 22:22:13 GMT -5
I actually think that TNA is able to keep secrets decently well if people don't read what happened on their tapings. You at least don't really know who is the new star in TNA at any given point. I am sure you could find out if you really wanted to but it is not as out there as WWE spoilers are.
I have another situation to propose. What if somehow, someway Vince screwed up huge and WWE went out of business. What happens?
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Post by gwffantrav on May 11, 2006 22:39:19 GMT -5
I think I have to agree with pure...don't try and compete with the WWE...and don't try and be the WWE (or WCW for that matter). Establish your own identity. It seems like everytime TNA tries to establish something, they pull the rug out on it...
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Post by thefamoustommyz on May 11, 2006 23:56:05 GMT -5
I actually think that TNA is able to keep secrets decently well if people don't read what happened on their tapings. You at least don't really know who is the new star in TNA at any given point. I am sure you could find out if you really wanted to but it is not as out there as WWE spoilers are. I have another situation to propose. What if somehow, someway Vince screwed up huge and WWE went out of business. What happens? RETURN OF THE TERRITORIES! What? A guy can dream, can't he? |
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Post by gwffantrav on May 11, 2006 23:57:27 GMT -5
I actually think that TNA is able to keep secrets decently well if people don't read what happened on their tapings. You at least don't really know who is the new star in TNA at any given point. I am sure you could find out if you really wanted to but it is not as out there as WWE spoilers are. I have another situation to propose. What if somehow, someway Vince screwed up huge and WWE went out of business. What happens? Ahhh, starting over! What a dream! ;D |
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Post by pikemojo on May 13, 2006 11:51:02 GMT -5
That is what I thought too. There are no companies with enough money to make it really big like WWE so all of the independents would probably end up being like how the territories used to be. But of course it is never gonna happen.
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Post by canadianpittbull on May 13, 2006 13:49:56 GMT -5
I agree with Tommy, the return of the territories would be soo much better than what is going on now. Also if you look at the history of the business it was in the territories that alot of the stars of yesteryear really established themselves as Legends!
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Post by madacapa on May 19, 2006 16:32:54 GMT -5
First, I would have to have hundreds of millions of dollars. Basically, the support of one of the TV networks (CBS, ABC, FOX).
Second, I would use an existing wrestling brand so I would not have to start from scratch...which means I buy TNA from the Jarretts and Dixie Carter.
Third, I start raiding WWE talent. For example, I would have contacted Mark Henry's agent and made him an offer he coundn't refuse. I would stalk WWE wrestlers whose contracts are coming up.
Four, I would buy one of the smaller, independent promotions and turn it into a developmental division like OVW.
Five...
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Post by pikemojo on May 19, 2006 17:52:35 GMT -5
Why Mark Henry???
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Post by Mr. Jimmyface on May 19, 2006 18:47:19 GMT -5
First thing I would do is what no promoter thinks to do. I would not start a promotion to battle the WWE. I would start a promotion to deliver great wrestling action show after show, week after week, year after year. If you allow your mindset to compete with another person, you will take less time away from working on your own product as you watch theirs. If you work hard on your product and make each show exciting, you will draw and get and audience.
Second, get a reliable accountant and lawyer. You are going to need these later.
Third, go out and find the money. Let your investors know what they are investing in, their expected return, and how much their contributions will be returned to them.
Fourth, sign a talented roster. It might be tempting to get a large group of previously established stars, but only use the ones that are willing to travel, work hard, and put forth the effort to make their matches with you some of their best. A large name who does not work for your product is a waste of money. You want to look for the Terry Funk's and Sting's - established names who don't coast on past accomplishments, but instead work hard to match the matches they have count.
The flip side of this are new wrestlers. There is no shortage of indy wrestlers to be found, as they are like local rock bands. They are plentiful and all of them want to work hard to make the scene. However, like local bands, you have a lot of them who, well, suck. But there are men and women out there who have something to offer. Look at who's out there and start thinking of your roster. You (and your office staff, friends, and family - hey, the input of non-wrestling fans is important. Outside opinions should always be heard) need to watch a lot of tapes and do a lot of interviews, but when it is done, you should come away with a core of at least 24 people who will be staples for your program.
Fifth, get out there and sell sell sell! Book shows, set up a website, sell DVD's, make friends in the wrestling press, and work with independent promoters. Use their talent when you come into town for a show, and allow your wrestlers to go to their shows when they are not wrestling for you.
More to follow... tired now...
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Post by PureHatred on May 19, 2006 18:49:09 GMT -5
FThird, I start raiding WWE talent. For example, I would have contacted Mark Henry's agent and made him an offer he coundn't refuse. I would stalk WWE wrestlers whose contracts are coming up. . madacapa: the Isiah Thomas of wrestling |
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