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Post by pikemojo on Mar 21, 2006 15:24:48 GMT -5
Date Added: March 20, 2006
Story By: Dylan Jefferson
Thanks to reader NeanderCarl for sending this in:
Last Friday's edition of the Daily Star newspaper in the UK featured an interview with Dixie Carter. Lots of typical hype in the article, and interesting comments about the possibilities of Goldberg working with TNA:
"Goldberg has been talking about us. We've not been talking about him. We're in a good position to have talent interested in participating, although we currently have a great roster and it's their time to shine."
"It's critically important. Some of these guys have been with us since day one, could have gone to our competitor and didn't. We want people to become invested in our characters and product."
So it seems perhaps TNA aren't all that interested in Goldberg, despite what he has been saying. Unless of course Ms Carter is trying to swerve us?
I was gonna post this in the other TNA thread that had been so heated but it is locked and I don't blame whoever did it. And for the record my intent was never to fight. This actually applied to the original point of that thread though.
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Post by tafkaga on Mar 21, 2006 15:59:35 GMT -5
I had a dream last night that Goldberg showed up in TNA. It's weird because I don't even watch TNA, so I don't really have any preference one way or the other. I'm not even a Goldberg fan. But, maybe if he does end up showing up I can make a living as a wrestling clairvoyant and charge people to call my hotline.
I think Dixie is definitely doing a swerve here. For them to bring in Scott Steiner and then say they're really not interested in Goldberg is insane.
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Post by pikemojo on Mar 22, 2006 3:24:02 GMT -5
It could be, but I still think that Goldberg would be unwilling to job to anyone. Plus after having run over just about everyone in WCWs roster it just wouldn't make sense for someone in TNA to be able to beat him.
I really hope she is telling the truth on this one. I loved Goldberg but I really don't want to see him in TNA.
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Post by spiderbite on Mar 24, 2006 0:18:51 GMT -5
sorry to anyone that likes Goldberg but i dont and never did. hes just another Luger or Hogan so to say.i mean he has what like 4 moves.now if someone like Angle, Benoit or probally just anyone who knew how to apply a headlock jumped to TNA i would be more interested. i dont watch TNA a lot but every time i do someone from the past or from WWE is showing up so i wouldnt suprise me if he did show up though
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Post by tafkaga on Mar 24, 2006 13:02:07 GMT -5
I don't hold Goldberg's move list against him. He's got every bit as many moves as Stone Cold or the Rock, and he's probably got more actual raw athleticism than either of those guys. Hogan's got a pretty good move list too outside of the USA. Luger on the other hand, is pretty limited.
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Post by canadianpittbull on Mar 24, 2006 13:47:36 GMT -5
Hmm lets see:
Bill Goldberg:Jackhammer, Spear, Pumphandle drop,
Single arm choke into gorilla press powerslam,
Superkick plus other moves that he uses but are not apart of signature moves or finisher(s). If I remember correctly Goldberg can do some pretty technical moves outside of the US as does Hulk Hogan. Let's face it, not many in North America want to see Hulk Hogan or Goldberg pull out the technical moves. But in Japan Hogan and Goldberg are doing submissions,drop toe holds among other moves in the ring.
I agree with tafkaga that Bill has more actual raw athleticism than The Rock or StoneCold. People for some reason cannot see past "The Streak", I'm sorry but there a many interesting angles and story lines that Bill Goldberg could be apart of to define his character even more.
Plus you cannot deny the accomplishments he has attained. And he is draws money, can put butts in seats. If Goldberg goes to TNA it can only help them to get the "new blood" noticed by the causal fan.
If a wrestler shows up in the WWE no one says much of anything. But if someone shows up whether they are an alumni of WCW,ECW or WWE on TNA it is bad. Don't get it, if your a wrestling fan be one and encourage competition therefore the product gets better across the board and wrestling can be exciting and make for a better product.
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Post by tafkaga on Mar 24, 2006 14:27:16 GMT -5
Agree totally.
When it came to actual wrestling ability, Goldberg impressed me more than the Rock or Stone Cold did. The only place Goldberg lacked was on the mic, and even then he wasn't the worst, he just didn't stand out like the Rock or Stone Cold. Goldberg could be very good for TNA if they were smart in how they used him, and if he allowed them to use him correctly. Those are two pretty big "Ifs", but I'm not prepared to make a judgement on it before it happens. I could see Goldberg helping to establish a lot of the younger talent, not simply steamrolling over them.
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Post by spiderbite on Mar 24, 2006 16:42:03 GMT -5
maybe i should just move to Japan. see me, i would enjoy wrestlers like Goldberg or Hogan if they pulled out those moves here. and not to be misunderstood i enjoy it when i watch TNA i like seeing the old stars show up that i used to love and wondered where they went. i think it does make the TNA a better product and i also enjoy seeing guys like Styles that i wouldnt see in the WWE. ive seen more innovated moves on one broadcast than entire years of watching the WWE and that is excellent. i just cant stand Goldberg. it makes for predictability.
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Post by tafkaga on Mar 24, 2006 18:23:29 GMT -5
Understandable. I personally can't stand Scott Steiner, and the fact that he's a prominant part of the show now makes it not worth watching to me. If TNA benefits from it though, I'm all for seeing them improve.
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Post by Joe on Mar 24, 2006 18:41:01 GMT -5
I don't hold Goldberg's move list against him. He's got every bit as many moves as Stone Cold or the Rock, and he's probably got more actual raw athleticism than either of those guys. Hogan's got a pretty good move list too outside of the USA. Luger on the other hand, is pretty limited. I hear people talk about what Hogan did in Japan to combat the argument that he couldn't wrestle. Since this was only in Japan, I can understand why many are unfamiliar with his skills aside from the boot, legdrop and "Hulk up" thing. How, though, that someone can say Goldberg was more impressive in the ring than Steve Austin is beyond me. Austin impressed everywhere he went, and only became a one-dimensional brawler following his neck and knee injuries. Even after the match, he went hold-for-hold with Chris Benoit. I also would not say Goldberg possessed any more "raw athleticism" than the Rock, but that one is debatable, I suppose. |
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Post by tafkaga on Mar 24, 2006 19:03:31 GMT -5
I'll give you the thing on Austin... but I wasn't referring to "Stunning" Steve. I said "Stone Cold". Big difference, because for the most part Stone Cold's move set consisted of punch, kick, Stunner, flip people off. The reason I compared Goldberg to Stone Cold and not Stunning Steve, is because I hear a lot more complaints about Goldberg's move set when in fact it's fairly sophisticated compared to the other superstar main eventers of his time.
Opinions tend to be debatable, and my opinion is that Goldberg demonstrated more raw athleticism in his matches than the Rock did. Was he as charismatic? Probably not. Good on the mic? Definitely no. More exciting to watch? Not in my opinion. Did he seem show more raw athleticism? I think so.
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Post by Joe on Mar 24, 2006 19:10:49 GMT -5
I'll give you the thing on Austin... but I wasn't referring to "Stunning" Steve. I said "Stone Cold". Big difference, because for the most part Stone Cold's move set consisted of punch, kick, Stunner, flip people off. The reason I compared Goldberg to Stone Cold and not Stunning Steve, is because I hear a lot more complaints about Goldberg's move set when in fact it's fairly sophisticated compared to the other superstar main eventers of his time. Opinions tend to be debatable, and my opinion is that Goldberg demonstrated more raw athleticism in his matches than the Rock did. Was he as charismatic? Probably not. Good on the mic? Definitely no. More exciting to watch? Not in my opinion. Did he seem show more raw athleticism? I think so. Any Austin, pre-career threatening and ending injuries, was better in the ring than Goldberg. Not to say Goldberg wasn't good at what he was supposed to do. His job was to stalk to the ring, spit, growl, make a few faces, hit his three or four moves and leave the ring. Anytime he was in a match that went any duration, he looked lost and sloppy. As for the athleticism debate, I was just always so amazed at Rock's quickness. For a man 6'5" and over 270 during his prime, the Rock was stunningly quick and light on his feet. Charisma? I don't know if anyone, including the likes of Hogan, Flair and Austin, has come close to the Rock in that department. |
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Post by Knapik on Mar 24, 2006 19:16:48 GMT -5
Goldberg.. displayed more athleticism than the Rock?? Man, I wasn't a Rock fan at all but the dude exuded athleticism. Obviously a natural born athlete. As Joe said he has stunning quickness and he had some very explosive moves. I've gotta disagree with that one.
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Post by Thad Killian on Mar 24, 2006 19:19:53 GMT -5
Goldberg.. displayed more athleticism than the Rock?? Man, I wasn't a Rock fan at all but the dude exuded athleticism. Obviously a natural born athlete. As Joe said he has stunning quickness and he had some very explosive moves. I've gotta disagree with that one. ditto. |
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Post by tafkaga on Mar 24, 2006 19:53:12 GMT -5
I still hold to it guys. Both were very impressive, no doubt. I'm not saying that the Rock was that far behind. Personally if I were to pick one over the other, I'd pick the Rock. He was more entertaining, more fun to watch in the ring, and could have been the next Hogan IMO. Still I think that a lot of people sell Goldberg short. I don't get where people say he only had 3 or 4 moves... he actually had a pretty impressive moveset for a guy his size. The reason I think so many people miss this is because about 90% of Goldberg's matches were exactly what Joe described. He walked to the ring, spit, growled, did a few power moves, spear, jackhammer, then spit and growled some more. He was capable of so much more, and had so much more potential than being the late 90's version of the Ultimate Warrior... but we'll likely never see him live up to that potential because of his ego and how he has been pushed.
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Post by swarm on Mar 24, 2006 19:54:53 GMT -5
Goldberg.. displayed more athleticism than the Rock?? Man, I wasn't a Rock fan at all but the dude exuded athleticism. Obviously a natural born athlete. As Joe said he has stunning quickness and he had some very explosive moves. I've gotta disagree with that one. ditto. I agree. That is just ridiculous...Goldberg was slow, and would blow up 5 minutes into a match, while The Rock would go like hell every match he was in... I guess if you've never been an athlete you could be confused with what the word "athleticism" actually means, so I understand why someone might say it, even though it is totally incorrect. |
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Post by tafkaga on Mar 24, 2006 19:56:10 GMT -5
Hi Swarm.  Welcome to the thread. |
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Welcome to the thread.