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Post by tafkaga on Mar 14, 2006 1:35:55 GMT -5
canadianpitbull, the bottom line here is that I may not like Steiner... I may think he sucks... but if you like him, like his finisher, and all of that... what anyone else says shouldn't change that. There are no doubt a lot of people who like Scott Steiner just like you do... and no one's opinion on this board, regardless of how negative or positive, is going to change that.
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Post by Joe on Mar 14, 2006 12:59:46 GMT -5
Ultimately I am not going to get into a Huge debate over this as we are pretty much off topic. And this whole Steiner debate could go on and on. Ultimately we can agree to disagree and life will go on. I will enjoy Steiner's return to TV and see him in TNA. My comment to you Swarm as far as going away only has to do with your constant negativity on the TNA boards here. Sure everyone is entitled to their opinions but I don't think I have ever heard you have one good thing to say here about TNA. So if ya hate it why comment on it. I loathe the current WWE product right now but I am not going to throw negative comments on the WWE boards here every single time. It is just a waste of time and energy. As far as getting back on topic. Again it was a great ppv. And I look forward to Lockdown. It is incorrect to say Swarm has never said anything positive about TNA. He has sung the praises of AJ Styles and Christopher Daniels, as I have, and stated that TNA should build its promotion around them. |
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Post by MikeMcKinney on Mar 14, 2006 14:47:22 GMT -5
The PPV was solid....I enjoyed it. The 4 way international was great!! The 8 man war was also..
MY friends that came over to watch, loved Big Papa Pump coming down and whipping up on Sting (i must say I liked it too)
But it was a good buy...... refering back to the question of the topic
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Post by myview on Mar 14, 2006 14:55:17 GMT -5
TNA delivered a good pay-per-view, it was not as good as Against All Odds 2006 and Genesis 2005. I will throw-out my negative comment here, the James Gang / LAX match was the worst I've seen. But the rest of the show rocked, the Ultimate X Match was solid... I'm glad Daniels won the belt and Joe still remains undefeated. So in the end DX 2006 was a GOOD SHOW!
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Post by BDS on Mar 14, 2006 16:47:28 GMT -5
Here's my two cents on Scott Steiner. First off, I'm a big Scott Steiner mark, and have been ever since he wore a mullet and the Frankensteiner was the most exotic and dangerous move mainstream US wrestling had ever seen. I also like his Big Poppa Pump character, which seems to have been helped by Scott being legitimately crazy, and he's got a presence in the ring that's undeniable. As to Scott Steiner drawing ratings, maybe, maybe not. I know I'll make it a point to watch on Saturday and hope he cuts one of those classic, rambling promos of his, then I'll make my wife mad by calling her my freak and informing her that I'm her hook-up. He was immensely popular at one point, and I don't think he's been entirely ruined like some of the other wastes of space on TNA's roster (coughBillyGunncough). Steiner could still be effective if used properly. While Steiner might not be enough to turn the tide by himself, I don't think that's the point; I think he's a cog in a larger wheel. If you follow TNA's ratings at all, you can see that the name value of having Sting helped them to get a bump in their ratings until they jacked things up with his retirement angle. It was a small bump, but it was a bump. And maybe if you get Sting and Scott Steiner and Goldberg and, if things fall right, maybe Brock Lesnar to go along with Christian, you've got a core of big names, not just one or two, that are recognizable to US wrestling fans. Then the hope is that those names bring people into the product, and the quality of the "undercard" shines over the crap that WWE is putting out and people stay. Sure, I'd prefer that TNA be 60 minutes each week of Joe kicking people in the face, but I'd rather make sure they stay on the air so I can watch wrestling and not corpse-humping every week. If I've got to sit through Scott Steiner each week to keep the X-Division alive and maybe, just maybe, build up TNA to two hours each week, then so be it. Holla if you hear me.  |
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Post by STEVIE~! on Mar 15, 2006 8:33:30 GMT -5
That is a very ironic statement, considering one of WWE's latest development signings is Dalip Singh. (The freakishly sized guy from The Longest Yard, who apparently killed a student by dropping him on his head during his training in All Pro Wrestling.)
That said, I'm not too excited about Steiner coming in. He's had some good reviews in the few matches he's done since being let go from the WWE, but that hardly makes me want to jump up and down in glee. Ideally, I think he can be used fine in tags and plunder matches where he can just pound on an opponent. He can at least do that right.
That said, I did end up getting the PPV... Every year, Wrestlemania falls around my Birthday, so it's usually always been a Birthday present for myself. The tradition has pretty much been going since... jeez, 1993? Well, after all of the disgusting acts WWE has gone this year, I finally had enough. I haven't watched one minute of WWE Television (Well, minus the Billy Graham DVD... Soooo good, daddy.) since the night Randy Orton proudly declared Eddie Guerrero was in hell.
And to be perfectly honest, despite my boycott of the WWE product, there was still a small part of me wanting to plunk down the cash for Wrestlemania... However, that all changed when I made the (for me) bold decision to instead order Destination X.
Honestly? I didn't regret it for the most part. I felt justified in spending $29.99 for this show... But I don't think it was anything more than that. (Not that Wrestlemania is exactly worth $49.99 these days...)
None of the matches were too bad. Worst of which obviously being the LAX vs. Armstrongs match, which was kept mercifully short. Best was surprisingly the International X Showcase, which I didn't have much expectations of. All four of those guys just went nuts in that ring, and I love them for it. I'll take that over ANY match Wrestlemania 22 has to offer.
The biggest disappointment's to me was the Ultimate X... I figured that all four of these guys would go balls to the wall to put on an incredible match. But unfortunately it was kept short, due to an eye injury from Joe... I'm not going to bitch, because things happen. I didn't demand a refund when Vitor Belfort beat Randy Orton by opening a cut in about 0:08 of R1. Things like this just happen.
The eight-man "war" was a clusterfuck, but in a fun way. Everyone fighting in each corner of the iMPACT zone conveyed the chaos really well... Never like when Mr. Jarrett wins, especially with that pathetic finisher of his... But I guess he's gotta get a win here and then.
The main event was a pleasant surprise. It wasn't anything about *** by any stretch of the imagination. However, it was simply very refreshing to have a TNA PPV main event without 19 ref bumps, 42 run-ins and a Dusty finish.
So I gotta give it a thumbs up. I'm sure it'll probably sting come Wrestlemania, but I'm confident I made the right decision.
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Post by swarm on Mar 15, 2006 9:36:58 GMT -5
That is a very ironic statement, considering one of WWE's latest development signings is Dalip Singh. (The freakishly sized guy from The Longest Yard, who apparently killed a student by dropping him on his head during his training in All Pro Wrestling.) That said, I'm not too excited about Steiner coming in. He's had some good reviews in the few matches he's done since being let go from the WWE, but that hardly makes me want to jump up and down in glee. Ideally, I think he can be used fine in tags and plunder matches where he can just pound on an opponent. He can at least do that right. That said, I did end up getting the PPV... Every year, Wrestlemania falls around my Birthday, so it's usually always been a Birthday present for myself. The tradition has pretty much been going since... jeez, 1993? Well, after all of the disgusting acts WWE has gone this year, I finally had enough. I haven't watched one minute of WWE Television (Well, minus the Billy Graham DVD... Soooo good, daddy.) since the night Randy Orton proudly declared Eddie Guerrero was in hell. And to be perfectly honest, despite my boycott of the WWE product, there was still a small part of me wanting to plunk down the cash for Wrestlemania... However, that all changed when I made the (for me) bold decision to instead order Destination X. Honestly? I didn't regret it for the most part. I felt justified in spending $29.99 for this show... But I don't think it was anything more than that. (Not that Wrestlemania is exactly worth $49.99 these days...) None of the matches were too bad. Worst of which obviously being the LAX vs. Armstrongs match, which was kept mercifully short. Best was surprisingly the International X Showcase, which I didn't have much expectations of. All four of those guys just went nuts in that ring, and I love them for it. I'll take that over ANY match Wrestlemania 22 has to offer. The biggest disappointment's to me was the Ultimate X... I figured that all four of these guys would go balls to the wall to put on an incredible match. But unfortunately it was kept short, due to an eye injury from Joe... I'm not going to bitch, because things happen. I didn't demand a refund when Vitor Belfort beat Randy Orton by opening a cut in about 0:08 of R1. Things like this just happen. The eight-man "war" was a clusterfuck, but in a fun way. Everyone fighting in each corner of the iMPACT zone conveyed the chaos really well... Never like when Mr. Jarrett wins, especially with that pathetic finisher of his... But I guess he's gotta get a win here and then. The main event was a pleasant surprise. It wasn't anything about *** by any stretch of the imagination. However, it was simply very refreshing to have a TNA PPV main event without 19 ref bumps, 42 run-ins and a Dusty finish. So I gotta give it a thumbs up. I'm sure it'll probably sting come Wrestlemania, but I'm confident I made the right decision. I agree that the Orton-Eddie thing was awful, and like I've said before, the guy I feel most bad for in all of that is Randy Orton... but (and you'll do what you want I'm just saying) why let that allow you to "stop watching" WWE all together, and for all things, for TNA? I don't get it. There is a TON of stuff I hate about the WWE, too much to list in fact...but for every bad gimmick, or bad story-line, there are 5 others that make the show great... as a "wrestling" fan, you need to be prepared for it all, and take the good with the bad... why deprive yourself from seeing guys like Benoit, HHH, Kurt Angle, RVD, Shelton Benjamin, and others all because Vince has a bad, bad sense of humor? and especially why deprive yourself from seeing these guys in favor of watching the loser has-beens over on TNA they are sticking in the Main Events? You should order Wrestlemania... |
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Post by canadianpittbull on Mar 15, 2006 9:45:00 GMT -5
Destination X was a solid PPV, there was something someone is bound to enjoy not only that but your getting 3hrs of non-stop action as well as a 30min free pre-show. TNA's PPV's feel like a PPV because something interesting happens or some one new shows up.
The WWE's PPV's feel like your paying too much money to watch a Raw and Smackdown episode. At one time the WWF and pay-per-view meant something. Either way I will take a TNA ppv over WWE's anyday.
When the WWE can get it back to making the ppv's mean something again then I will watch. I too stopped after Vince decided to make money off of and exploit the death of Eddie. I mean they have made more money off the man's death and he has gotten more of a push now than when he was alive. What's next? Are they going to resurrect the Katie Vick storyline but put Eddie in "her" place?
But that is for another thread. Either way TNA is slowly moving forward and I hope with in the next couple of years people will be eating their words when TNA takes off. I mean WCW started off small and look at how many people slammed it and it was hurting Vinny Mac once the ball started rolling. The difference being is that TNA has what seems to be a solid management team and they should be able to avoid the WCW downfall, should their momentum take off.
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Post by Joe on Mar 15, 2006 9:58:16 GMT -5
Didn't Vince give the proceeds to the sale of Eddie's book and all those shirts to the Guerrero family?
For that matter, I thought I saw somewhere that he is paying out the remainder of Eddie's contract to the family, as well. That I may be mistaken about, but I heard something to that extent.
Is the Guerrero segment in poor taste? Maybe.
Something people should remember, though: Guerrero was in the same business as Vince. This is an industry that, over the years, has "exploited" wars, spousal abuse, racism and apartheid. In the end, it is usually for the purpose of letting the good guy prevail and sending everyone home happy.
I'm sure Eddie Guerrero, wherever he may be, knows that Randy Orton doesn't really think he is piece of shit that is residing in hell. I'm also sure that if Rey wins the title at WM, points to the sky and bangs on his chest, most fans and the Guerrero family will go home happy.
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