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Post by dennish on Sept 18, 2005 6:50:56 GMT -5
I remember the feud that Raven and DDP had in WCW, I forget what talk show it was but the FOO FIGHTERS and DDP are sitting on a couch and then out of no where Raven hits DDP with a STOP sign! Raven has been one of my all time favorite wrestlers, his Flock was sooo cool, but his better days had to be in ECW. I would love to see him have the belt when TNA airs on Spike TV next month. I was never a fan of Double J in the WWE has the cowboy, but in his earlier years I liked him and then in WCW as the Chosen One was his best in my view.
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Post by Omen on Sept 19, 2005 21:41:57 GMT -5
Rhino would make the next step for NWA on Spike, that is if Spike is leaning in a new direction. Jarret would make the prefect foil for Rhino...They have to push the new blood and flushing out the old is a visable way of doing it. Rhino will win the belt before the end of the year.
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Post by thefamoustommyz on Sept 20, 2005 17:39:57 GMT -5
Eh, forget Rhino. He's a two-time loser with ECW and WWE stank on him.
Thje only way this Jarrett thing is forgiveable is if they're FINALLY planning on pulling the trigger on Monty Brown and making him the actual Alpha Male.
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Post by pikemojo on Sept 21, 2005 2:10:14 GMT -5
I think that there are quite a few possibilities for this to come out in the possitive. I would say that either Monty Brown or Rhino would be good. I also think that it would be cool for someone like Sting to pick up the title and then drop it to someone like Raven, Rhino, Monty, etc. It would be a huge push for whoever was able to take the title from Sting. He would only have to hold the title for a month or less even.
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Post by jtrain on Sept 21, 2005 19:02:16 GMT -5
just my thought but... AMW helped Jarrett win the title, so why wouldn't Raven come back with some old hardcore friends (those guys we used to know as the Dudley's) to take care of AMW. For the past 3 years AMW has been saying they are the best tag team around, so a fued with the Dudley's would make the most sense.
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Post by thefamoustommyz on Sept 22, 2005 13:33:04 GMT -5
Yeah, I guess by default the Dudleys would have to be one of the best. More a commentary on the strength of tag team wrestling than a compliment to the Dudleys, though.
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Post by CaseyJones1 on Sept 22, 2005 16:09:36 GMT -5
Too bad TNA wouldn't ever sign the two real best tag teams right now, Guerreros Del Inferno(Ultimo Guerrero and Rey Buccanero) which won't happen because they're CMLL, and KENTA and Naomichi Marifuji, which won't happen because they only bring in really crappy Japanese wrestlers.
Putting those teams in w/ Duds and AMW would rule.
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Post by leafar on Oct 1, 2005 10:12:57 GMT -5
I must agree that Jarret reclaiming the title was for their Spike TV debut. The difference between HHH and Jarret is that HHH isn't part owner of the company. Yes, he has a lot of influence, but Vince is the man making the decisions. Jarret, who is a part owner of TNA, apparently has that decision making power for that company. I highly doubt he will give up his ownership of TNA. He may actually believe he is doing the right thing when he decides that he should hold the belt for a year at a time.
For the Spike TV debut, it makes sense to have Jarret hold the belt, for now, but as time passes someone needs to knock some sense in him. Hopefully, they will literally do that. I HATE JARRET!
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Post by thefamoustommyz on Oct 1, 2005 10:48:22 GMT -5
Why does it make sense? Because Jarrett is the lowest drawing World champion in history?
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Post by swarm on Oct 1, 2005 16:08:48 GMT -5
Why does it make sense? Because Jarrett is the lowest drawing World champion in history? I don't think it makes sense either. Why? You are either going to get... a) people see Jarret and say "he's the champion? didn't he used to wrestle in the WWF? If he's so good, why is he wrestling here?" or b) people see someone like AJ Styles and say "he's champion? who is he?" and then no doubt be impressed with his ring work. I can see Jarret opening the show and the channels switching immediatly... a new face with the belt, unknown or not is going to keep interest for at least alot longer than Jarret does. I still think Jarret will drop the belt that night, but if he doesn't, TNA is going to be off to a bad start. really though, think about this... what is ther MAIN REASON smackdown doesn't succeed the way RAW does? it's taped. so why am I supposed to believe a fed with lesser talent, lesser known wrestlers, in a horrible time-slot, AND it's pre-taped is going to succeed? people get pisssed off at me and say I'm bashing TNA, but I'm a realist. |
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Post by dennish on Oct 1, 2005 19:24:26 GMT -5
Swarm, you have a good point... Yes a taped show is not as good as a live one, but I'm giving TNA IMPACT a chance... I think one reason that is, I'm looking to watch something other then the WWE. Jarrett is a hated wrestler, this is a great thing... TNA right now needs to have him front and center and then take Styles or Alpha Male and push them, or any of the other wrestlers who could draw people to TNA. I for one don't mind seeing Jarrett as the Champion, but if Raven or Rhino happen to win the belt that would be cool too. I do have to say one thing though about Smackdown, I never even turned it on lastnight... taped or not SD really sucks, it's a waste of some great talent to see them stuck over on this second rate brand. Anyway TNA will have me as a viewer...
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Post by swarm on Oct 1, 2005 21:35:44 GMT -5
Jarrett is hated but not in the good way.
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Post by pistonhurricane on Oct 1, 2005 22:47:42 GMT -5
I dont think the reason smackdown sucks is because its taped. I think the reason it sucks is because there is no cohesive vision to the program. The booking is not great and the wwe has done nothing to stop peoples perception that Raw will always be the frontrunner.
I think Tna will be succesfull... to say they will be able to compete with wwe on any level out the gate is a bit much, but given time who knows? I hope they have some big plans.
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Post by pikemojo on Oct 2, 2005 3:23:22 GMT -5
TNA is not directly competing with WWE right out of the gate. That is why they are not on Mondays or Fridays. If they had taken a Monday or Friday slot then it would be death for the company. As pistonhurricane said though "given time who knows?" It is possible for TNA to compete with WWE at some point.
I do think that Jarrett is hated in the right way. He is hated in the same way as HHH and JBL. Some people on the net hate them for things that they do off camera but the general public just simply hates their characters. There is a reason that the Jeff Jarrett figure is the only of the TNA figures currently sold out on Amazon/Toys R Us. He is a villain and he does his job very well. He is dedicated. You don't see a whole ton of wrestlers traveling to Mexico a few times a year to improve the credibility of their title. He has been to Mexico twice, Korea, and Puerto Rico in the past year to year and a half.
I don't love Jarrett but I don't hate him. I also don't love HHH but I don't hate him either. JBL however I just don't like.
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Post by gamemaster on Oct 2, 2005 10:14:38 GMT -5
I just bought the TNA epic collection which had three pay-per-views on it. I only watched one of the shows and was impressed by the entire show except for Jarret. I know after you see Styles, Daniels, and AMW how can Jarret follow. I was thinking it over though he hasnt changed in 10 years but I still think as much as I think he sucks he looks like a heel you like to see lose.I think he would get squashed by HHH but he isnt nearly as bad as JBL or Nash for that matter. Give Raven back the belt or for the love of god Joe.
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Post by thefamoustommyz on Oct 2, 2005 13:33:39 GMT -5
Swarm is totally correct on Jarrett...you can't have a World champion who gets "boring" chants. It's just BEGGING for the death of your promotion.
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Post by pikemojo on Oct 3, 2005 3:43:35 GMT -5
Remember Goldberg vs. Brock Lesnar...that was possibly the worst match I have ever seen and was supposed to be a farewell of sorts to 2 of WWEs biggest champs. I have never seen Jarrett look as bad as the two of them did there. I have also seen much worse matches out of JBL. opinions, opinions
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Post by thefamoustommyz on Oct 3, 2005 8:06:00 GMT -5
Pikemojo, Jarrett was getting loud "boring" chants on his promos...that's not good heat.
JBL gets booed, he doesn't get "boring" chants thrown at him. And the whole Goldberg-Lesnar thing was a debacle that, as much as I dislike Goldberg, would have been a lot different had it happened under different circumstances. I've seen TONS of Lesnar matches that have blown away anything Jarrett could DREAM of, and Goldberg's actually worked some good matches with Sting and DDP (not the easiest guys to have good matches with, since they tend to need to be carried themselves).
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