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Post by Tournament Master on Jun 17, 2005 10:11:24 GMT -5
Just saw the mystery Wildcard entrant for TNA's King of the Mountain match this Sunday. None other than Sean Waltman.  If having X-Pac in the mainevent of your fed's biggest card of the year doesn't signal the end, what does? |
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Post by BrianU on Jun 17, 2005 10:24:46 GMT -5
TNA, it's been great, thanks for the great X-Division matches, for AJ Styles, Daniels, AMW, Brown and Abyss. Now it is time for the Last Rights to be read--TNA is dead.
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Post by pikemojo on Jun 21, 2005 1:40:33 GMT -5
As big of a TNA fan as I am I have to agree. Waltman has to be one of the worst mystery men that they could have picked. Using Raven as the most obvious mystery man ever would have been better. Or just pick any young wrestler on the roster and say it is finally his big chance at the title. Waltman should be used to give the shows star power and to help to get the next gen wrestlers to the level they need to be at.
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Post by Dave on Jun 27, 2005 14:28:45 GMT -5
TNA was great in the beginning, however, the addition of old DX talent, Dusty Rhodes (Loved him as a wrestrler, hated him as a booker) NWO talant , and others ruined the show. Jeff Jarret is alot worse then HHH. HHH will occusionaly put over other wrestlers like Batista, Shelton Benjimen and Beniot and will use defferent finishes to his matches. Jeff Jarret wrestles the same match night in and night out. He is destroying TNA. Hopefully, if TNA can get a tv deal and the desire to push their X-division talent maybe then they can finally becume a third rate wrestling company.
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Post by GalactiKing on Jul 27, 2005 15:10:38 GMT -5
TNA's just kind of there now. They have the potential to move up, but as long as Jarrett rules the roost, I don't think anyone will ever take them seriously.
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Post by Tongsoon of Cygnus on Jul 28, 2005 0:50:07 GMT -5
Last I heard (rumors mind you), TNA was about to be picked up by Spike! TV.
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Post by pikemojo on Jul 28, 2005 5:34:12 GMT -5
That is not a rumor at all. It is posted on just about every single wrestling news site around. Rhino just recently debuted for TNA as well. Things have never looked better for TNA.
They are of course still in a really deep hole money wise but this is at least a step in the right direction.
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Post by thefamoustommyz on Jul 28, 2005 11:55:14 GMT -5
Rhino debuting doesn't really mean much, and TNA's still having to pay for their time slot with Spike TV...in fact, I would image that they're actually paying more for this time slot than for their FSN slot.
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Post by pikemojo on Jul 28, 2005 17:28:10 GMT -5
I heard that TNA is not paying for their timeslot and that Spike is earning their money off of advertising. I read that on prowrestling.com.
Rhino is in fact a pretty big deal. He is another star that could easily be seen holding that title. He was a very believable ECW champ. If he is able to recapture that same type of character that he had back then he will be another pretty big star that could conceivably be NWA champ.
There is also alot of rumors going around that Jericho is very unhappy in WWE and has still not renewed his current contract and is considering leaving. I am sure TNA would go a little more in debt to get Jericho.
Where TNA really needs to concentrate, I think, is on merchandising. There is so much money in merchandising. They already have figures in the works as well as a dvd distribution deal that is supposedly going to be bringing us TNA dvds to Wal Mart very soon. A video game would be a huge help to them. In my opinion, that is what helped WCW to jump ahead of WWE for a couple years. They clearly had the better video game at the time and I think that people got into it.
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Post by thefamoustommyz on Jul 28, 2005 18:05:32 GMT -5
Rhino is not a big deal, sorry...he's a midcarder at best, who was on top of ECW because there was no one else to be on top.
W365, I believe it was, reported that they were, in fact, paying for their time slot, and they tend to be right WAY more often than they're wrong...
And WCW didn't get the "better video game" until after they had already pulled ahead with the nWo angle. (WCW vs The World featured Crow Sting on the cover, and it was the first of the THQ/AKI/WCW video games).
As for Jericho...if he DOES leave, he could well wind up in TNA...after all, he would only have to work three nights a month.
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Post by pikemojo on Jul 28, 2005 23:55:30 GMT -5
Rumors did happen to be wrong, at least partially. Jericho just informed WWE.com that he has renewed his contract as of Monday night I believe.
My point on the video game is that I knew alot of people that got into wrestling at that time because of the WCW games. They may have already been ahead in ratings but the games were a huge help.
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Post by canadianpittbull on Aug 3, 2005 7:56:45 GMT -5
I have enjoyed the TNA-NWA product when I can. I have stood by them and I get their PPV's when available and I have to say they put on a damn fine show!! I would rather pay around 30 bucks for a 3 hour show of great wrestling than the 2 hour edition of RAW or Smackdown we get from the WWE.
WCW/NwO Revenge for the N64 was the best WCW wrestling game bar none. (Although I loved Mayhem as well)
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Post by Joe on Aug 3, 2005 17:56:34 GMT -5
I have enjoyed the TNA-NWA product when I can. I have stood by them and I get their PPV's when available and I have to say they put on a damn fine show!! I would rather pay around 30 bucks for a 3 hour show of great wrestling than the 2 hour edition of RAW or Smackdown we get from the WWE. WCW/NwO Revenge for the N64 was the best WCW wrestling game bar none. (Although I loved Mayhem as well) You're comparing TNA's pay-per-views to WWE's weekly program. Do you think the TNA PPV's are better than WWE's? |
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Post by thefamoustommyz on Aug 3, 2005 22:23:07 GMT -5
Joe's got a point there...
I thought the TNA PPVs were great...just the weekly show started to make me gunshy...and then there was no weekly show, so I just forget they were on...
But the TNA *talent* brought it to PPV...even when the bookers didn't.
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Post by pikemojo on Aug 4, 2005 4:20:01 GMT -5
Exactly. Though I would say that the booking was good enough to put the wrestlers into good matches with each other, usually.
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Post by thefamoustommyz on Aug 4, 2005 7:53:23 GMT -5
That is true..they did tend to keep guys like Nash, Savage, Hall and Jarrett together so that they wouldn't drag Styles, Petey and the like down...
Except poor, poor Monty Brown.and AMW did get turned into Dustin Rhodes' sidekicks for a while. That really hurt.
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Post by pikemojo on Aug 4, 2005 21:49:27 GMT -5
Guys like Nash and Hall and Dustin Rhodes can still entertain me even though I know that they are not all that good in the ring. To me they are like how Hogan is to so many people.
Honestly I don't think that Jarrett is a bad wrestler. He has always been able to entertain me in the ring and is a pretty technical wrestler. It sounds like he has a problem passing the torch though and that is a definite problem.
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Post by thefamoustommyz on Aug 5, 2005 20:14:58 GMT -5
I like Jarrett...but he's booked as a hybrid Flair/HHH in TNA, and he's just nowhere near Flair's level...even reduced for size of the fed.
I LOVED Rhodes in WCW in the mid 90s...but haven't been able to get into him since Goldust.
I thought it was great how they tried to use Sting and Luger to put Styles over as a main event babyface...that was some fun booking.
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Post by canadianpittbull on Aug 6, 2005 18:50:43 GMT -5
What I am saying is That the WWE's PPV's are not any different that watching RAW or Smackdown. Thats is was I meant. I am refering to the fact that TNA's PPV's are that PPV's and exciting things happen and it is a big deal. And it feels like a PPV. So yes, I like TNA's PPV's MUCH better. ;D
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