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Post by The Doctor on May 11, 2005 13:23:02 GMT -5
Dusty Rhodes resigned as TNA booker yesterday morning following a meeting with Dixie Carter. She told him that TNA would be switching to a WWE-style booking committee format. He didn't want to be part of a committee so he resigned but will remain as an on-air personality and the "Director of Authority" for TV shows.
from theeditor@wrestlinggroupie.com
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Post by BrianU on May 14, 2005 21:36:02 GMT -5
Not sure how big a loss that is. I am not fond of Dusty finishes. His screw ball finishes made a mess of WCW. However, things got better under his watch rather than Russo.
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Post by thefamoustommyz on May 15, 2005 4:03:30 GMT -5
Good riddance. I thought TNA got unwatchable under Rhodes...and I was buying PPVs until he took over.
Now if they would remove him from the show period.
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Post by sebastianHaff on May 15, 2005 15:36:13 GMT -5
WWE style booking committees and tv writers NEVER improve things. Dusty may not be the best guy for the job but at least he understands wrestling.
Every promotion needs just one voice at the top to call shots. The problem is when that "one voice" puts himself on tv as a personality and strikes up friendships with certain talent, who he will in turn push.
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Post by thefamoustommyz on May 15, 2005 21:21:16 GMT -5
Dusty understands wrestling? And there's evidence of this?
Not trying to be snarky, but Dusty is good for dreaming up special matches and not much else.
WarGames? Awesome. BattleBowl? Awesome. Pretty much everything else he ever did as a booker? Ugh.
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Post by sebastianHaff on May 16, 2005 12:49:55 GMT -5
As a fan (mark) and not a smart (mark), I was all about the NWA while Dusty was booking. I DID fall for the "Dusty finish" most times and I DID go back for more. This was the 1980's and no fans knew or cared about who the booker was. We didn't even know that there was a booker.
I think that the proof that Dusty knows wrestling lies in the fact that he was at the top for so many years. Further, it was not just his office contacts that he was using to stay there. The fans are ultimately the decision makers as to who is talented and who is not. The fans were for Dusty. Were they wrong? The man knows how to entertain the masses. Even Ric Flair admits that he stole many mannerisms and theories from Dusty.
This is not coming from a die hard Rhodes fan either. It just gets a little old seeing a guy's reputation get belittled because Dave Meltzer exposed us to the term "Dusty finish".
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Post by thefamoustommyz on May 16, 2005 17:09:15 GMT -5
I would argue that Dusty DID know wrestling.
Just like Bill Watts knew wrestling as well as anybody...difference is, Watts knew when wrestling passed him by. Rhodes still thinks he's relevant. Christ, he was actually defending keeping Jarrett as champion when Jarrett's promos were being drowned out with "Boring!" chants. At the least I would have had the self respect to keep my mouth shut or point out that some things are beyond my control.
I'm not belittling his accomplishments as a wrestler at all, and your defense of him seems to be combining the two...but knowing how to get over and stay over does not equal knowing how to successfully book a company.
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Post by sebastianHaff on May 17, 2005 18:40:23 GMT -5
Dusty understands wrestling? And there's evidence of this? Okay. Well, at least now you "argue that Dusty DID know wrestling". I guess I supplied just enough proof? Seriously though, it's just a difference of opinions. As I stated before, I was a fan of the NWA during the Dusty era. I guess that means, to me, that he booked it well. Some of my fondest memories come from that period. Is his booking style relevent today? I argue that some theories and psychology are timeless. The loyalty to Jarrett probably goes a little deeper than just booking though. Butt kissing is also a time honored tradition for which there is no defense. The new bookers will have somebody they favor too. Here's another question. Does TNA have the kind of talent who are capable of making angles beleivable? In short, do they have mostly wrestling entertainers or wrestling acrobats? |
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Post by thefamoustommyz on May 17, 2005 20:12:50 GMT -5
I would say a mix of both.
AMW, while so-so on the mic, have a better understanding of wrestling than most of the current generation.
Raven knows angles at least as well as anyone in wrestling, but he has been repeatedly marginalized.
D'Amore is a throwback (and I mean that in the best possible way) to managers of yesteryear...none of Team Canada are any worse, personality-wise, than Eaton or Condrey were. (That said, D'Amore is still no Cornette.)
I agree that several of TNA's guys, however, just don't have what it takes yet to run the deep angles, and probably don't have anyone trying to teach them, or aren't willing to learn.
Speaking purely as a consumer, I used to buy TNA PPVs. I bought one after Rhodes took over (the second PPV, when he was settling in)...after that, I found myself fast-forwarding through TNA and not ordering PPVs. Now, either Rhodes' booking was really turning me off, or Rhodes was letting other people neuter his ideas (the exact reason he claims he didn't want in the committee) and was taking "credit", as it were, for what I - as a consumer - found to be bad TV.
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Post by Snickerdoodle on May 18, 2005 20:01:18 GMT -5
Even if he isn't a great booker, Dusty still remains one of the greatest legends in the history of pro wrestling. The man is an icon.
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Post by thefamoustommyz on May 18, 2005 20:50:24 GMT -5
And no one was disputing that.
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