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Post by j on May 14, 2004 11:23:43 GMT -5
I read that when TNA debuts on Fox Sports that they won't have the normal square ring. I also saw reported that TNA bought a 6 sided ring to use on the new TNA:Impact show. This could be kinda interesting to see how that works out.
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Post by GalactiKing on May 14, 2004 19:18:08 GMT -5
Pro wrestling has no shame. Stealing something else from the GWF.  |
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Post by Casey Jones on May 19, 2004 15:35:32 GMT -5
Yeah, from the GWF, then Mexico, then T2P, and that new fed Teddy Hart and some other dude are starting up that will use Toryumon guys.
Since AAA uses those rings all the time and NWATNA is working with AAA, they might even just be borrowing the hardware from them.
I wish NWA would have worked with EMLL, aka the GOOD lucha fed. AAA is pretty freakin bottom of the barrel, with their fake La Parkas and such.
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Post by Joe on May 22, 2004 12:08:34 GMT -5
I know I have said this before, but Casey's post made me want to reiterate my opinion of NWA-TNA. The promotion itself is pretty bottom of the barrel. Aside from AJ Styles, Christoper Daniels, and perhaps Lo-Ki, it is hard for me to think of a guy on their program that could compete on RAW or Smackdown. AMW, Chris Sabin, and Kid Kash are sometimes entertaining, but none appear ready for the show. Sabu has looked terrible the couple times I have seen him lately, and Jeff Jarret appears to be spending too much time in the board room and not enough time in the gym. I also have a hard time getting into the X Cup because, as was pointed out, AAA is not really an elite federation itself.
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Post by Irish Sean McPicklejuice on May 22, 2004 12:44:20 GMT -5
I wouldn't even go that far Joe. Kids like Styles (who turned down a developmental deal a while back) & Daniels (who's failed before in WWE) would at best be fixtures on Velocity doing jobs. The Low-Ki stiff junior stuff would never be accepted by Vince, at best he'd be doing squash jobs.
The vast majority of TNA guys would have little interest to Vince. It's not like the company is drawing on any level, and only Raven has actually had a proven impact of lifting the buys somewhat.
Always remember, this is a company that has to heavily paper their Nashville show while losing $30k a week on every PPV show they put on. Once the money marks at Panda Energy figure out that buying a Friday 3PM infomercial for another $30k a week (not even including the costs of renting the studio & paying the talent) doesn't increase buys, I'd say once they inevitably pull the plug most of the TNA crew will have a hard finding steady work on the indy's, much less a spot in WWE.
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Post by Joe on May 22, 2004 13:52:46 GMT -5
I agree with you about Low-Ki. Styles has a gang of in-ring potential, but his personality and charisma rate in at a zero on a scale of 1 to 10. Having grown up in the south, Styles reminds me of the construction worker that hangs out at the softball fields on Saturday night. I know Austin became the biggest wrestling star ever by playing the ass-kicking redneck, but Styles looks too redneckish. He looks like he just pulled up in an I-Roc outside the arena with Molly Hatchet or Lynard Skynard playing playing on the stereo. If someone could teach him how to cut a promo, or maybe just to talk, Styles has the ability to be a legitimate star.
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Post by Cannabis on May 22, 2004 17:00:53 GMT -5
I remember seeing an old tag match with AJ & Sting vs Jarrett & Lex Luger. It was just too far of a stretch for me to buy AJ as a physical equal of any of the other three with even Jarrett being tough to buy.
He's athletic but that's not nearly enough to be a success in the big leagues. A guy like Brad Armstrong could do the same things as AJ a decade ago, but was not allowed to because being a small guy who can jump & bump doesn't draw. Hell Brad towered over Styles and at least looked like a grown up.
There was a time not long ago that pro wrestling had a steady stream of athletic tough guys, ex-football players, guys with legit amateur wrestling backgrounds & second generation stars to choose from. I'm talking about guys who looked like they could kick ass and perfomr for real. Athletic size wrestlers like Barry Windham, Stan Hansen, Bruiser Bordy, Ricky Steamboat, Ric Flair, Randy Savage & Jake Roberts along with so many others. Watching them as a kid these guys were larger than life. As a fan it was cool because there were so many guys 'out there' that could come into a territory and make things fresh and exciting.
Today the lot of believable future stars on the indy scene is very nil. For the most part all that's left is these small acrobat types that look like they could work at the local grocery store or behind the counter at McDonald's. The standard has just dropped so low it's beyond ridiculous. Then the promotions who go out of business wonder why wrestlers built like bean polls flipping & flopping in the air, or diving off balconies or smashing each other with light bulbs in bloodbaths doesn't turn a profit.
Unless Vince recruits hard with his OVW system & finds more guys like Brock Lesnar, Kurt Angle, Charlie Haas & Shelton Benjamin who can ake what they know and learn the pro style, or develops more young ex-football players who can talk like John Cena, things really suck for the future.
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Post by Joe on May 24, 2004 16:41:43 GMT -5
Maybe I have a different perspective about the size factor because I grew up a boxing fan. I am around 6'3" and 220 and played sports up through high school, but I have no doubt that Floyd Mayweather, who fights at 140, could beat the hell out of me.
AJ Styles may not be the physical equal of Sting or Luger, but really, he is twice the athlete as either one, and is far more entertaining than Luger ever was. At the end of the day, professional wrestling is about entertainment, not realism. Shawn Michaels is, and never was, the most physically imposing guy in the world, but he can make people forget that Triple H outweighs him by about 50 or 60 pounds. That is what wrestling has always been about.
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Post by tuxedo on Jun 7, 2004 16:52:51 GMT -5
Uhhhh yeah....I'd like to get back to the six sided ring topic. To sum it up quick, I hate that ring! I cringe when I see it on a AAA show.
A wise man once told me that the ring should not be the star of the show. If the wrestlers and the product cannot get the job done, relying on a fancy ring to get attention wont work either.
Wrestling done right works. No need to revolutionize it. Vince all ready did that...and it smells.
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Post by CaseyJonesatwork on Jun 8, 2004 7:36:34 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind the 6-sided ring if they actually used it like T2P used to-have 6 guys jump off the top at the same time.
THAT actually is a cool visual, and a pretty common one in T2P, actually.
I don't see dubba J doing stuff like that though.
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Post by Chris Ingersoll on Jun 10, 2004 17:11:41 GMT -5
Uhhhh yeah....I'd like to get back to the six sided ring topic. To sum it up quick, I hate that ring! I cringe when I see it on a AAA show. I don't even use the Turnbuckle Shock match in CotG.  |
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