King Kong Bundy's 5 count ?

[Bazzy]

Okay I know he was one of the first legends . People will scream what have you been doing for years ? . I was playing KKB v Frank Gotch . When I thought hit me . Does anyone use the 5 count request for when , KKB is NOT using the Avalanche . Say he uses the backbreaker or elbow drop off ropes ?. I only use the 5 count for the Avalanche or when his involved in a feud (rubbing it in more ?)

[Cory Olson]

That's a good question, Bazzy, and I thought the same thing too when Bundy's card came out. I only use it on the Avalanche finisher. I could maybe see him doing it after one of his secondary finishers, like the backbreaker or elbow drop. But if Bundy were to get a quick pin off one of the charts (Ropes, Turnbuckle, etc.) it'd seem kind of odd for him to do the five-count in a situation like that. I'm pretty sure the wording on Bundy's card and/or in the booklet say that he only does the five-count after the Avalanche.

[GalactiKing]

I only use it after the Avalanche.

[stephenvegas]

Since there is an asterisk only next to Bundy's AVALANCHE finisher on his card and then an explanation for that asterisk on the bottom of Bundy's card explaining that you add (+4) to both PIN rolls for a 5 count, I also thought the 5 count rule only applied to his AVALANCHE finisher.

The book for the original Legends set, which I just checked because it was close to my computer, does indeed also strongly imply that Bundy only goes for the 5 count following the AVALANCHE.

Bundy hasn't won a title in my fed yet. But if he did, I am not sure if would he still go for the 5 count or just accept the title he won? Definitely a good storyline one could use if the champion got pinned on the 3 count but kicked out before the 5 count and went on to come back and win the match against Bundy to retain his title.

[Cory Olson]

stephenvegas said:

Definitely a good storyline one could use if the champion got pinned on the 3 count but kicked out before the 5 count and went on to come back and win the match against Bundy to retain his title.

I thought the same thing too, Vegas. The champion could retain, but Bundy could protest saying he had the three (or four) count and should be champ. It could lead to a rematch.

[hofclemens]

coryolson said:

stephenvegas said:

Definitely a good storyline one could use if the champion got pinned on the 3 count but kicked out before the 5 count and went on to come back and win the match against Bundy to retain his title.

I thought the same thing too, Vegas. The champion could retain, but Bundy could protest saying he had the three (or four) count and should be champ. It could lead to a rematch.

I was watching the Mid South DVD release from earlier this year and it has a match with JYD and Bundy. JYD was down for the 3 but kicked out before 5 and I remember that would be a great way to kickoff an angle in LOW. haven't found the right spot yet but will use it sometime

[Avarice]

I only used it after the Avalanche as well.

[wakigatame]

coryolson said:

stephenvegas said:

Definitely a good storyline one could use if the champion got pinned on the 3 count but kicked out before the 5 count and went on to come back and win the match against Bundy to retain his title.

I thought the same thing too, Vegas. The champion could retain, but Bundy could protest saying he had the three (or four) count and should be champ. It could lead to a rematch.

That is a really good angle, I might actually use it in my fed.

[Scott Fire]

I don't use the stipulation at all. I think it's kind of stupid.

[vtturk]

I use the 5 count only on the Avalanche. I think of Bundy as a consistently arrogant heel. It's cost him some matches but he's held my US title and almost won the Tag Team belts with Ted DiBiase.

[GalactiKing]

It has cost him a couple times for me as well but he is also a former U.S. and Tag team Champ for me (With DiBiase)

[billy]

I only use the five count is Bundy is in a fun mood and really had an easy match against someone.