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Post by jsanudo on Dec 9, 2005 11:22:15 GMT -5
Which former GWF stars has Mark used best. Not only counting in their card stats, but also how well they were used in storylines. Here are some (not all) former GWF star Mark uses or has used:
Exo-King Blizzard Terrak Raven Talon Gila Lycosa The Collector Mace Prodigy Grunge The Punks Mike Fortune Cordanus Mensar Darkos Splatter Mad Jester (original and clone) Jack of Diamonds Scion Nexus
My opinion, Mark has done the best job with Blizzard. Blizzard went from an unstable jobber to the backbone of the OFC and a high carder if not a Main Eventer.
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Post by Mike M on Dec 9, 2005 11:33:36 GMT -5
My Top 5:
1. JOD- he has become the face of the CPC, and is associated with it like Hulk Hogan in the 80's WWF or the Rock or SCSA in more recent years. He's held the CPC Title more times than anyone and had the most successful defenses of the CPC Title. 2. Blizzard- directionless character to OFC badass, at one point in 2118 he held 3 of the 4 singles titles in my fed- the OFC Title, the Interstellar Title and the Cruiserweight Title. 3. Raven- similar to JOD, except he had accomplished more before Mark got a hold of him. He (and the rest of the New Order) seemed rather rudderless towards the end of his GWF tenure and Mark gave him an upgrade and the shot in the arm story-wise that he needed. 4. Terak- Terak was a character that I hated and didn't care about when he was in the GWF. I still disliked him in the CPC, but Mark made him relevant and interesting. 5. Grunge- just because he was another character who was largely irrelevant. Mark gave him new life by incorporating the Grunge/TK story contest.
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Post by ThePunisher on Dec 9, 2005 11:58:31 GMT -5
Top 5:
1. Jack - He is the man in the CPC. No one brought more galaxian fans into the CPC arenas as JOD. He isn't my most accomplished wrestler but he is d@mn successful.
2. Raven- Never did anything in my GWF (prolly cuz he was going against the Glads, and in my fed, you don't survive the Glads) Now he is the most accomplished in the CPC and has gotten the most heel heat out of anyone outside of the GWF.
3. Wildcat- You take a guy who has no personality, and is just kind of there and take him through 3 different stages of his career. That's huge.
4. The Jesters- A floundering afterthought in the GWF turned into one of the most successful and entertaining stables in either fed. The clone as Comedy is a former tag champ and Franco is obviously one of the best managers around.
5. Blizzard- A guy who showed up in the GWF, got his @$$ kicked around the ring by the Colonizers and then left all of a sudden. You put him in the OFC and he has a whole new personality and he does alot more of the @$$ kicking.
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Post by jsanudo on Dec 9, 2005 12:37:09 GMT -5
I think I missed the best one...Brainstorm. He was a terrible GWF wrestler, losing his identity. In the GWF, he went from an intellect to a playboy, which made no sence. In the CPC, the two personalities were mixed. He was able to play the "powers that be" to make himself one of the focus points of the CPC.
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Post by GalactiKing on Dec 9, 2005 13:09:27 GMT -5
1. Jack-easiest one. He took a guy witha lot of potential and made him a superstar. 2. Blizzard-Who knew that a guy who didn't look to be more than a low carder would become one of the most dominant CPC wrestlers 3. Brainstorm-If only because he's been involved in so many good storylines 4. The Punks-Jobbers to Tag Dominance. Even now they can still put in a good match and Mark's not done with them quite yet. 5. Gila-Okay, he never got that great card I always wanted, but Mark made him an important part of the cPc and one of the top managers in the fed.
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Post by Mike M on Dec 9, 2005 13:20:43 GMT -5
I think I missed the best one...Brainstorm. He was a terrible GWF wrestler, losing his identity. In the GWF, he went from an intellect to a playboy, which made no sence. In the CPC, the two personalities were mixed. He was able to play the "powers that be" to make himself one of the focus points of the CPC. I completely forgot about him too. He'd be somewhere in the 2-4 range for me. He cant touch JOD, but he's right there with Blizzard and Brainstorm.
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Post by Joe on Dec 9, 2005 15:53:25 GMT -5
I definitely would say Jack of Diamonds and Raven are the two best, as they are now synonymous with the CPC. Blizzard and Brainstorm are also characters whom Mark significantly improved upon.
With Euritar and Mensar coming into the CPC in 2121, I am confident that Mark will put good spins on their characters, as well.
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Post by Darth Turkish on Dec 9, 2005 23:53:33 GMT -5
Aside for JOD (Kneel before JOD! ;D), I would have to say Brainstorm, Raven, Death's Head and Gila. All tossed away, they found a home and were utilized by Mark to promote the story.
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Post by soug on Dec 10, 2005 0:20:48 GMT -5
jod by a long way. but i have a feeling scion is about to explode!!
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Post by Bazzy on Dec 10, 2005 2:44:21 GMT -5
Two names come to mind . Blizzard & Scion Nexus . There is 1 name not even on the list ? . What about Shylock just a normal average tag teamer , now main event material ?
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Post by Mike M on Dec 10, 2005 7:30:08 GMT -5
There is 1 name not even on the list ? . What about Shylock just a normal average tag teamer , now main event material ? Probably because he was never in the GWF.... although I agree that Mark's done a great job with him and Saboteur- speaking of which, I can hardly wait for the Masked One's return.
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Post by Tournament Master on Dec 12, 2005 18:28:26 GMT -5
I personally loved Mark's earlier work with the Jesters...always one of the parts of the handbooks I looked forward to. As far as non-comic relief, I gotta agree with the group with Jack of Diamonds, Mark has brough alot of depth to the character that Tom never did. I do think that my favorite things Mark has written has been with his own characters however.
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Post by JED-SE on Dec 13, 2005 10:14:23 GMT -5
Well, I agree that JOD has been the most successful in his time w/ CPC. However, I really like Brainstorm since he came to the CPC. His character always had potential starting with his run with the Rocketmen, followed by stealing Maxine Babe. Now I believe he's being utilized to his proper character potential.
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Post by B. Mackrell on Dec 13, 2005 11:29:17 GMT -5
Jack of Diamonds no doubt! He has owned the CPC Heavyweight title pretty much since he joined the fed.
The only person to give him a run for his money was Raven. The two have traded the belt back and forth a few times with Jack mostly getting the upperhand in the feud.
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Post by JimSteel on Dec 13, 2005 12:47:02 GMT -5
Jack of Diamonds by far
My top 5 are
1-Jack of Diamonds 2-Brainstorm 3-Mad Jesters 4-Raven 5-Blizzard
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Post by MikeMcKinney on Feb 9, 2006 21:32:17 GMT -5
My top 5 are.....
1. Jack of Diamonds-always liked him and Mark made him a star. 2. Wildcat- Did nothing in GWF(and I do mean nothing) but is a star in my CPC 3. Raven- was great in GWF but is the MAN in CPC.. 4. Blizzard-Mark has really got this guy going and I like it 5. Brainstorm-he's a main eventer now and deserves it..
close but not quite...Jesters, Zouave, Daeman....
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Post by swarm on Feb 10, 2006 0:44:35 GMT -5
Probably Shylock.
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Post by Mike M on Feb 10, 2006 7:12:01 GMT -5
The subjects a little misleading, but JS's actual question was 'which former GWF star has Mark used the best?' If we're opening it up to everyone, then I'd probably go with Shylock and Sabs, but I'd have to think about it.
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Post by swarm on Feb 11, 2006 15:50:17 GMT -5
The subjects a little misleading, but JS's actual question was 'which former GWF star has Mark used the best?' If we're opening it up to everyone, then I'd probably go with Shylock and Sabs, but I'd have to think about it. oh ok...I would say probably Jack of Diamonds. I never liked the stories he was in (hated the Gunnar thing...) but he has definitly been written as the top guy and it translated to the promoter rankings.
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Post by gatekeeper on Feb 11, 2006 22:02:38 GMT -5
I'm gonna say Blizzard. He became CPC champ and was a double champ if memory serves. There's no way he would've accomplished anywhere near that type of success in the GWF.
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