should the cpc close down???

[Joe]

admin said:

If the CPC needs something different to put it in the spotlight, then the hinted-at abandoning of the Team Format could be it. Ironically, it wou;d be like returning to the origins ot he GWF, with an "every man for himself" mentality.

I definitely think that is a good idea, especially in the CPC's case. Too many of the teams just seem to be made up of guys that are thrown together for no legitimate reason.

The Savage Kingdom vs. Species feud makes sense, but I would definitely see going back to loose allies and guys on their own as being a plus for the CPC.

[swarm]

David said:

At times I wonder , just why I even bother putting out messages on these board . I given my feelings and all hell lets loose . Lets get 1 things right , I do not want ANY federation to close (GWF \ CPC / Legends or any bootlegs) . Personally the more feds , the better the competition ? . Look at WWE now its bought out WCW & ECW etc . There is no real competition apart from TNA . Look at the stateof WWE has got itsself into . Soug feels CPC should go . I personally feel going off my feds that GWF should go , IF any had to go . But we all know NONE will go , because its making Tom a living (which I have no problem with . Only wish I was doing it instead of the job I hate doing) . Now for saying my feelings on should the CPC stay , I should never be allowed to buy another GWF card set ha ha .

dave it was sarcasm. I was messing with you. I was totally pulling your leg. That's why I used the stupid face thing. I appologize if it didn't come off that way.

swarm

[gatekeeper]

David said:

I feel GWF should go before CPC .

Dude, are you high? That makes absolutely no sense at all.

[wildman]

Hell NO! CPC 4 Life!

[GalactiKing]

I like CPC and aCe but GWF 4ever. Still I like that all 3 feds are unique.

[Tournament Master]

For me the GWF and CPC are on equal footing in how I promote them. However, the CPC is really at a lack of top tier guys. I have Talon and Rubicon battling for my championship, because there is really no one else that is worthy of a shot. I hope with Mensar coming in we will have atleast one more top tier guy (and hopefully more). I know Tom doesn't want the top CPC guys to be better than the top GWF guys, but that doesn't mean that all the CPC guys should be at midcard level.

[Press Slam]

Just curious as to what is the distinct difference between the GWF and the CPC?
I only reached until 2100 before I stopped collecting, which I do regret as some of the most exciting events in COTG history seems to have happend when CPC came along by reading some promoters posts.
Is it just the characters or how the fed is run? I think that it's good that people have a choice! Also are there less Alien wrestlers in the CPC?
In real life I got into wrestling via the then WWF but I soon grew an affection towards the NWA. In my eyes in wasn't as glamourus or well produced but it seemed more pure and honest.

[wildman]

Press said:

Just curious as to what is the distinct difference between the GWF and the CPC?
I only reached until 2100 before I stopped collecting, which I do regret as some of the most exciting events in COTG history seems to have happend when CPC came along by reading some promoters posts.
Is it just the characters or how the fed is run? I think that it's good that people have a choice! Also are there less Alien wrestlers in the CPC?
In real life I got into wrestling via the then WWF but I soon grew an affection towards the NWA. In my eyes in wasn't as glamourus or well produced but it seemed more pure and honest.

Not too many aliens. CPC is similar to NWA. It is not flashy

[GrumpyBigBee]

I enjoy using the cPc wrestlers in my GCW which is my cPc to the GWF. (aCe wrestlers are going in there now too but cPc was there first.)

[hooligans2]

I think the CPC should stay. I have honestly enjoyed the storylines more than the GWF booklets (with the exception of 2120), and I think its important to this gaming universe. aCe is great also, but what makes the CPC interesting for me is because Mark takes wrestlers, managers, and others who were bit-players in the GWF and builds storylines around them. I am not the biggest Savage Kingdom fan, but Savagery was good. I am a big Jack of Diamonds mark, so a lot of that was great. He has taken characters like Jack, Blizzard, Brainstorm, and others and made them viable and important. The CPC, pun intended, is gold!

[hooligans2]

On another note here...well...another two notes. I think a new artist should be brought in to breathe new life into the characters and how they look. Second, I think most of the teams should break up and it should go to tag teams or single wrestlers just wrestling and feuding. I think in both the CPC and GWF, the team concept has worn out its welcome.

[Boomdoxxx]

One one note I must say that the reason that I have stayed a promoter for the past two years is the CPC so if the CPC went away i just might have a nervous breakdown. Secondly while the team concept has been a COTG constant I do think that a the time has come for a new idea in gameplay. Right now in my feds i do not have a team system. My wrestlers have allies but mainly just wrestle others on their level in hopes of moving up and getting title shots. This way seems more managable and makes for more variety in storylines.

[Trent Lawless]

hooligans2 said:

it should go to tag teams or single wrestlers just wrestling and feuding. I think in both the CPC and GWF, the team concept has worn out its welcome.

Interesting...

[swarm]

markcpc said:

hooligans2 said:

it should go to tag teams or single wrestlers just wrestling and feuding. I think in both the CPC and GWF, the team concept has worn out its welcome.

Interesting...

This might work for the CPC, but only because it would give it a different face than the GWF.

The team concept is the reason the GWF has worked for 20 years. It's what makes it unique. With teams, the possibilities are endless with feuds, teams, stories, etc...

Both the Troubleshooters and S+S are stuck in boring mode right now because they have no teams.

The WWF was hottest when they had DX, the Nation, The Heenan Family, Evolution etc...and a mess during the times they use no stables.

[PureHatred]

In the GWF I'm still in 2090, but I have played on and off with the CPC for a while now, and my biggest 'complaint' (if you can call it that) is that it just feels like a futurisitc version of a bigger indy fed. There is no obvious top tier heel or face, and as such no top tier feuds. And the drawings addd to that over-all feel. Just a bunch of guys in twife beaters running around.

So while the storylines are ingenious and well-done, they don't have that 'epic' feel to them. In my mind's eye, when the GWF PRESENTS STAR WARRIOR VS BISHOP HELL its a headline match in front of of thousands ina packed arena.

Talon vs Rubicon is standing room only at the Jewish Community Center (Pro Wrestling Guerrilla reference).

There are positives and negatives with both scenarios.

But yeah, if CPC is ever going to feel like a major company, in-game it needs to develop some top tier talents (I personally think Dante could be a MONSTER heel: talented, successful, rich, arrogant actor turned wrestler, constantly talking about his fans; easy to hate, lots of 'Corporate Rock' in that character). It needs to go away from team concepts unless it further storylines. It desperately needs a new artist or new style to its drawings. And Filsinger game wise, it really does need its own release date.

[Boomdoxxx]

You can make any character "top teir" by how you promote them. Remember the beauty of the COTG universe, you control it.

[soug]

hmmm...maybe i was wrong about the cpc and its wrestling talent!!! check out my results in fed forum, under GWF/sWo ( worlds collide: federation wars: gwf vs cpc)......it will surprise you!!!

[B. Mackrell]

What if the "great depression" angle played itself out a little more and Colby went bankrupt? Even a billionaire has to have his limits, right? Then maybe the CPC could become more indy-ish and become the "little federation that could", kind of like ECW, ROH, or TNA. They could implement different mechanics, the every man for themselves angle, more hardcore or aerial styles, etc.

This would also get away from the whole Colby-centered storyline. Maybe make some new guy come in a be like the future version of Paul Heyman. Someone new, or someone old like the Collector, Guile, or Rocket.

I think the CPC just needs to create its own image like aCe did that separates it and makes it unique from the GWF. We should really have four leagues that all have different concepts and ideas behind them. LOW, GWF, aCe, and CPC... all with different styles of play that make them unique.

[Mike M]

I think that Mark rotates his "featured" groups around. If you look at the last few editions, a number of feuds have been the "headliner" (the Penthouse Suite vs Brains & Brawn, OFC vs Assassins, Species vs Savage Kingdom). One way that Mark has made the CPC different is that there is a different team that gets the focus every couple of game editions. We don't just focus on the Champions of the Galaxy team (like Tom did for a long time); instead we get a look at a variety of teams.

As for talent, Mark has developed plenty of it over the years. Both JOD and Raven went from directionless mid-carders in the GWF to marquee main-eventers in the CPC due to card updates and better storylines. From the first edition Mark took over (2112), Raven was an incredibly huge heel.... and caught a taste of his own medicine when Barabus kicked him to the curb in 2119.

Mark's invented a number of characters, but he does have some limiting factors. Perhaps the biggest is that Tom wants to keep the GWF guys as the "top" wrestlers around, and generally doesn't seem to let Mark make too many "monsters" in the CPC.

As for getting away from the whole Colby/Pelf thing, I believe that Mark is headed in that direction. Prell's the commish now, Colby and Pelf aren't active at ringside any more, and it looks like Prodigy is making a move to the front office, perhaps as the new "office personna" of the CPC.