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Post by majorbludd on May 27, 2008 21:58:01 GMT -5
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Post by Graymar on May 28, 2008 7:46:41 GMT -5
In defining 'drop'...I think they may drop 35-50 cents in October...but I don't think we will not see gas below $3 again.
Graymar
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Post by Chris Ingersoll on May 28, 2008 12:09:32 GMT -5
Poll lacks a "never" option.
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Post by Wildfire on May 28, 2008 13:34:48 GMT -5
I think we could see a bit of a drop if the Democrats win the election... I think alot of the speculators that are driving up prices might flee in terror if that happens...
I agree with Graymar though, I'll be suprised if they ever go below $3 again.
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Post by mft on May 28, 2008 15:53:45 GMT -5
I think we could see a bit of a drop if the Democrats win the election... I think alot of the speculators that are driving up prices might flee in terror if that happens... I agree with Graymar though, I'll be suprised if they ever go below $3 again. I think you are really reading into what a president can do. They have nothing to do with gas prices. About the only the govt can do is get rid of the gas tax or flood the market with the reserves. Those people who are suckers and try and vote for that Obama dude, and see gas prices aren't falling like he told them...well, whatever |
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Post by Wildfire on May 28, 2008 16:21:17 GMT -5
I don't think the President can do anything, but that doesn't matter... if enough dummies out there think they can do something, or, that Bush is someone responible for the high gas prices (he's from Texas, and therefore buddies with Oil companies, dontcha know) the prices will go down. The economics of the day is such that its not scarcity that's driving prices up.. if that was the case, you'd have to wait in long lines to get gas, and you'd see 'Sorry, all out" signs at stations sometimes... like back in the 70s. That's not the case right now.. its just the PRECEPTION that demand is rising... oil is going to run out.. the middle east could explode any moment, etc that keeps the prices up there. Those same factors could say "Hey, Democrats don't like Oil Companies, we'd better sell now while we can" if, say Obama gets elected. .. that's what I'm talking about. I certainly don't think anyone can go 'poof' and lower prices (though I do think opening the reserve would be a good plan, but that's another issue) Class dismissed  |
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Post by Wildfire on May 28, 2008 16:22:57 GMT -5
Incidently, getting rid of the gas tax is a terrible idea.. just about every economist out there thinks it'll only drop the price for a month or two, then demand will increase and inch the price back up... all it does it take money from the government and transfer it to Exxon, really.
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Post by mft on May 28, 2008 19:59:55 GMT -5
Truthfully, the thing we need to do is say FUCK YOU to those nut job environmentalists. And trust me, I'm an environmentalist (always outdoors, don't litter, all that shit), but I'm not mentally unstable about it.
Whoever is in charge (anyone but Obama, so that means Hilary or McCain) need to tell them to FUCK OFF, start drilling on our reserves (the Dakotas, Utah, Alaska), offshore, start building nuclear power plants and order more refineries built ASAP.
This would 1) lead to jobs for Americans..helping our own economy 2) get off our dependence of any foreign oil, thus already making it cheaper for not having to ship it in 3) start leading to drastic cheaper energy costs.
Please, whoever is in charge...say FUCK OFF to the whack jobs and get this done!
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Post by majorbludd on May 28, 2008 20:42:33 GMT -5
The question of when gas prices go down really depends on when the speculators start losing money. I think when that finally happens the price will drop quickly. I agree that getting rid of the gas tax is just a bad idea
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Post by Wildfire on May 28, 2008 22:09:24 GMT -5
I don't know enough about the Oil in Alaska and such to make an intelligent comment about that being a good solution... is there enough there to make a difference?
I'd be OK with more nuclear power, but I'd rather see the government fun work on getting Solar collectors to work effeciently to be useful.
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Post by mft on May 28, 2008 22:20:56 GMT -5
There are huge reserves in Utah and the Dakota (which was really just discovered this year I believe). Plus, you aren't taking into account offshore either...which our pussy ass govt. bowed to the freaks of the Goddess of the Tree. Yet, China snuck on in there, drilling what could be a potential goldmine for the US.
But heaven forbid we kill the rare weed. Hopefully, another tree will fall on them when they are fucking the tree next to it. Freaks
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Post by Trent Lawless on May 29, 2008 4:12:09 GMT -5
Trav may be surprised at this, but I think he's got a point about governments being too beholden to environmentalists. I think the ethanol lobby has screwed things up horribly for the economy by making it lucrative for farmers to produce corn for a fuel source that has no infrastructure (pipelines, mainly, so that we have to use trucks to get that fuel from place to place, thereby negating its purpose) and also using up farmland that could be put to use for crops we could, I don't know, actually eat and keep food prices from shooting through the roof.
That being said, I think that some added refinery capacity is a decent idea, but limited. We've gotta get ourselves on track for alternative fuel sources like hydrogen cells so that the people we can really say fuck you to are the OPEC countries sticking that gas pump right up our asses. They're a worse menace than wacko environmentalists any day. There's jobs to be had in that sector if we can just get ourselves off this baby bottle of foreign oil.
And I don't know that a new president is going to help much, either, no matter which party they're from.
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Post by ringking on Jun 4, 2008 7:08:20 GMT -5
Trav may be surprised at this, but I think he's got a point about governments being too beholden to environmentalists. I think the ethanol lobby has screwed things up horribly for the economy by making it lucrative for farmers to produce corn for a fuel source that has no infrastructure (pipelines, mainly, so that we have to use trucks to get that fuel from place to place, thereby negating its purpose) and also using up farmland that could be put to use for crops we could, I don't know, actually eat and keep food prices from shooting through the roof. That being said, I think that some added refinery capacity is a decent idea, but limited. We've gotta get ourselves on track for alternative fuel sources like hydrogen cells so that the people we can really say fuck you to are the OPEC countries sticking that gas pump right up our asses. They're a worse menace than wacko environmentalists any day. There's jobs to be had in that sector if we can just get ourselves off this baby bottle of foreign oil. And I don't know that a new president is going to help much, either, no matter which party they're from. People have tried to mass produce stuff like that in the past. Funny they came up missing or dead. There is alot of politics in gas and oil and alot of people want to keep it on the up and up. |
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