Eliath's IWF - MMA Bootlegs

[Eliath]

Okay...lets see...my House Rules are pretty simple:


No holds barred.

Champions will defend their titles on every card.

Cosmic Crippler's adjusted timing & scoring rules are used.

Champion's advantage rule used. (Champion's may roll their KO/SUB roll twice if the first one results in a KO/SUB)

Feuds are determined by matches & results. Rivals develop & those rivalries are explored. Drama plays a role too as I am a story-teller.

How else can I help?

[DUCE]

(awesome fellow storyteller/promoter)
;D Hey, check this out... Q & A with Duce and Eliath

The Duce Qs
1.) How do you handle the timeline?
2.) You said Jack Hood encourages the ultra violence in IWF does that mean fingernails are allowed?
3.) Fighters union?
4.) Any deaths in your NHB?
5.) Do you have age limits?
6.) Athletic comission(stopping things like mismatches or people unfit to fight fight)?
7.) What is considered cheating during training in the IWF? (drugs/prostethics/or something of that nature)

[Thad Killian]

Oh hells yeah! DSC is freaking awesome dawg!!!! cannot wait to use the Beast...thanks Eliath!

[Eliath]

duce said:

(awesome fellow storyteller/promoter)
;D Hey, check this out... Q & A with Duce and Eliath

The Duce Qs
1.) How do you handle the timeline?

I purchased CotG through Storm the Ring & Brawl. I didn't want to play through all the history so I decided to host my fed on Kronos & use whichever superstars I wanted. My POW fed is run the same way. I love creating new storylines with classic characters. (Ex: See Sectarian winning the Heavyweight Title...I bet that didn't happen in too many feds back in the day.)

2.) You said Jack Hood encourages the ultra violence in IWF does that mean fingernails are allowed?

Everything is allowed in the POW. The more blood the better. I am playing Hood as a Blood & Violence Commissioner who loves to distribute punishment to those deserving & even those who do not.

3.) Fighters union?

Nope, not necessary. I figure in the future setting there is no need for unions. Every fighter has whatever comforts they want.

4.) Any deaths in your NHB?

Not yet. In my wrestling fed Blazing Skull nearly killed 2 in one match. I never clearly detailed in my storyliine what happened to those two. One of them was just never seen again. The mortality failsafe is definately "off". If the storyline dictated it though, I would absolutely write it that way. The main problem I have with deaths in this setting is that I think medicine is so much further advanced in 2122 that deaths are very rare in competition.

5.) Do you have age limits?

Nope. Its hard to judge an alien's age vs. a human's. To us 200 years might be a long time, but if said race lives 1000 years...

6.) Athletic comission(stopping things like mismatches or people unfit to fight fight)?

My athletic commission in my wrestling fed is the Commissioner. In my POW, it will be Prodigy. He has yet to appear so I have been letting Jack Hood get out of control. The plan is to have Grael appear & tell Hood that Prodigy is going to be his balance. The only "real" power Prodigy will have will be to override Hood when he gets out of hand, which will infuriate Hood all the more & open up fantastic storyline potential.

7.) What is considered cheating during training in the IWF? (drugs/prostethics/or something of that nature)

I am currently working out how I am going to handle training. I love your chart that you shared for between fight training & will be putting that to use. I am also going to break up my roster into dojos, but haven't gotten that far yet. Currently, everyone could fight on any given card so they have no real chance to prepare for an upcoming fight & Champions fight on every card. Again, the plan is when Prodigy appears that will all be fixed. Every fighter will have 3-4 weeks between fights & that will give training the opportunity to become a factor. I am also working on trainers/corner men that will give further advantages, but haven't quite got that where I want it to be yet.

Hope this helped. Lets keep this going, it helps me to clarify things in my mind. Thanks!

[DUCE]

I purchased CotG through Storm the Ring & Brawl. I didn't want to play through all the history so I decided to host my fed on Kronos & use whichever superstars I wanted. My POW fed is run the same way. I love creating new storylines with classic characters. (Ex: See Sectarian winning the Heavyweight Title...I bet that didn't happen in too many feds back in the day.)

1.) Oh, so you don't use year formats or if you do how many cards do you host per year(MMA)?
(Yeah, lol, Sectarian got 30 or so matches in my GWF and I didn't even sign him to any of my independent federations. Serpent Unman got more screentime.)

Everything is allowed in the POW. The more blood the better. I am playing Hood as a Blood & Violence Commissioner who loves to distribute punishment to those deserving & even those who do not.
Nope, not necessary. I figure in the future setting there is no need for unions. Every fighter has whatever comforts they want.

2.) So do fighters get punished for boring fights?


Not yet. In my wrestling fed Blazing Skull nearly killed 2 in one match. I never clearly detailed in my storyliine what happened to those two. One of them was just never seen again. The mortality failsafe is definately "off". If the storyline dictated it though, I would absolutely write it that way. The main problem I have with deaths in this setting is that I think medicine is so much further advanced in 2122 that deaths are very rare in competition.

Makes alot of sense. I brought back a couple of guys with skull fractures in NUFC's setting year 2018. I figured the reconstructive surgery would be that much better. (I've had five deaths in NUFC and really just four in my GWF/inde feds-crossfire/dreadnaught and two bootlegs)

Nope. Its hard to judge an alien's age vs. a human's. To us 200 years might be a long time, but if said race lives 1000 years...

Yeah, like Lance At-las. What I am currently doing is trying actually map my MMA world's history into a replaying of GWF( my GWF fed failed around 2105 in 1998 I liked the direction of alot of Tom's storylines but my dice didn't). I am planning a Star Trekish first contact sometime soon bringing in the first aliens into MMA.


My athletic commission in my wrestling fed is the Commissioner. In my POW, it will be Prodigy. He has yet to appear so I have been letting Jack Hood get out of control. The plan is to have Grael appear & tell Hood that Prodigy is going to be his balance. The only "real" power Prodigy will have will be to override Hood when he gets out of hand, which will infuriate Hood all the more & open up fantastic storyline potential.


Sounds good. Almost like a sadistic Dana White with Frank Shamrock ready in the wings to put him in his place( psuedo ProElite/UFC merge with better writing/drama)

I am currently working out how I am going to handle training. I love your chart that you shared for between fight training & will be putting that to use. I am also going to break up my roster into dojos, but haven't gotten that far yet. Currently, everyone could fight on any given card so they have no real chance to prepare for an upcoming fight & Champions fight on every card. Again, the plan is when Prodigy appears that will all be fixed. Every fighter will have 3-4 weeks between fights & that will give training the opportunity to become a factor. I am also working on trainers/corner men that will give further advantages, but haven't quite got that where I want it to be yet.


If you have any tweeks to that chart I'd love to see it. Also something to think about is having a "throw in the towel" rule. If you have a fighter representing a dojo and the master of the dojo is at ringside he should have the power to throw in the towel( save his fighter from a beating/kinda saving the fighter face in losing). That always added an extra dimension for me.

The whole cornerman plus/minus/rating is a very good ideal. Like Matt Serra's distractor rating(his loud mouth) or Ken Shamrock's back in the day.
3.) How would you handle camp interested only in enriching themselves like the Gracie's from 1945-2002? Surely these guys wouldn't fight for a raving sadist and theyed want special "Gracie rules". Would Jack Hood laugh at them and tell them to bugger off?
I had a couple of cards in a prisonworld inspired by "guardians of the galaxy" comic. A bunch of the fighters were truely the dreggs of the universe. One guy... what did he have... I'll have to digg him up... he was a poacher of animal and harvested the organs to implant them onto his body. Doomsayer wouldn't even admit to saying he helped the guy acheive his progress of body harvesting. He had hyena skin, gorilla arms, and various creatures muscles in his body. PETA worst nightmare. He was imprisoned and wasn't able to wrestle in anywhere else but on the close circuit of this prison world. Also on the prison world I had a bunch of guys who harvested organs to replace drug wickered parts of there own body.

4.) Would these guys cross any lines in the IWF?

Hope this helped. Lets keep this going, it helps me to clarify things in my mind. Thanks!

;D Same ere.

I want to straighten everything out in my head before I go back to promoting MMA( especially rulewise)

[Eliath]

1.) Oh, so you don't use year formats or if you do how many cards do you host per year(MMA)?

In the IWF I have 7 Supercards with 6 cards between them, totalling 42 cards & 7 Supercards in a game year.

In the POW I was originally going with the same format, but I believe I am going to shorten the year to 7 Superfights with 5 cards between the, totalling 30 cards & 7 Superfights in a game year.

2.) So do fighters get punished for boring fights?

Absolutely.Their punishment from me is getting cut from the roster or repackaged. Their punishment from Hood (read as: the search for meaning in their career) is to be fed to one of the top dogs in their weight division. Superheavyweights get: Wraith, Heavyweights get: Cypher or Saboteur, Lightweights get: Whoever is not currently injured.

3.) How would you handle camp interested only in enriching themselves like the Gracie's from 1945-2002? Surely these guys wouldn't fight for a raving sadist and they would want special "Gracie rules". Would Jack Hood laugh at them and tell them to bugger off?

Knowing how I am writing Hood, he would tell them to bugger off. That said, if one of the dojos gets on a streak where they hold all the titles (including the upcoming Doubles that I am working on) then by rights that dojo has every right to expect "Gracie rules" from Hood & would most likely get them because of their current standing. Hood wouldn't like it, but by then Prodigy will be there & he would like that. (read that as: Prodigy's Pets, LOL!) So, I could see it happening in some manner & actually hope it does because I would really love to write that story.

4.) Would these guys cross any lines in the IWF?

The way I wrote the story, the IWF is the umbrella corporation for the POW. The Commissioner in the IWF (known only as "Commissioner", no name) hired Jack Hood. Hood's first activity was to invade my IWF fed & my IWFZ fed and abduct talent to perform in the POW (Pendekar, Wraith, Anarchy, Blazing Skull, Hybrid, Raijin & Guy Andrews). Morbid was offered a position & accepted solely on the promise that Thock was going & so he was too to continue their feud. (They have a blood feud going on & will continue it in the POW). Rage came because he was pulled from competition along with the rest of the Gladiators by the Minister of War on Aethra for poor performance. He showed up in POW to face Mayhem (though this story has yet to be revealed in the fed itself) After that, the Commissioner stopped Hood from abducting talent. The last thing Hood did in the IWF/IWFZ was abduct the Commissioner of the Z Division, Pandra Nicole. Hood knew that Thock wouldn't allow harm to come to an innocent & would hunt her kidnappers without fail.

Since it is really all one corporation, I don't think there are any lines that the POW boys could cross that I couldn't make an interesting story.


Re: Throwing in the towel

I'm not sure that I will actually be bringing trainers to ringside, so no distractions, no in-fight adjustments. I think that the fighters should be able to stand on their own & fight their fight. I get what you mean by it, but don't think its right for me. I think the dojos would deal with the loss of face after the fact. Throwing in the towel to me is worse than being submitted & being injured in the process. If I lost, I wasn't prepared properly. The loss was a lesson, not only in humility, but in preperation. I would ask for a rematch & would be better prepared the next time. If in the next match I lost once again, then I asked my sensi why I lost again. My sensei would tell me something like: "You keep trying to move a big stone uphill with a tiny stick. No matter how much leverage you put into the stick, the stone only laughs at you & soon the stick will break. Next time, ask yourself why the stone resists you so. " Always made me think my way through things.

[DUCE]

In the POW I was originally going with the same format, but I believe I am going to shorten the year to 7 Superfights with 5 cards between the, totalling 30 cards & 7 Superfights in a game year.


37 cards a year is HUGE for MMA. Unless...

1.) How many MMA fighters are on your roster?


Absolutely.Their punishment from me is getting cut from the roster or repackaged.

Thats one thing I've never done. If a chessmatch is on display I can understand it if there is even a hint of underlining merit( Ali vs. Inoki). If both fighters are gassed and just laying out the rest of the fight that hurts them because ;D I hold so many tournaments that the gassed fighter will probably face injury in the next round or just be replaced with an alternate. I usually only had bum vs. bum fights on my Extreme Fighting Circuit(EFC) promotion. To round out the card and give the bum momentium into his upcoming squash against a fighter who needs a gimme fight.



Re:Re: Throwing in the towel

It might add dimension to stale fighters. Back in the day and in Vale Tudo all cornermen had enpowered towels because there were no referee stoppages or they had special rules making the referee unable to to stop fight because the referee was seen as someone who did not have the interest of the fighter's career just the interest of the org.

If you noticed in my thread there is a Manager rating. That rating is used when blood tokens have passed the Blood rating or the fighter is just taking a vile beating and I am sick of rolling the dice because the contest is so one sided it started to drag. Manager rating or lower means the towel is thrown. I'd say 35% of my MMA fighters have Manager-X( meaning no towel).

My way of selling "throwing in the towel" in MMA is for Interpromotional fights, Gracie Nation/Prodigy type dojos, or anyone who doesn't want to enable the referee to stop the contest by desiding to give that power to there corner.

Like Randy Couture fighting Fedor Emelianenko in the UFC. Both sides no longer are in favor of the UFC so one of the stipulations is that the referee can not stop the contest unless there is a clear submission or knock out.

[Eliath]

duce said:

1.) How many MMA fighters are on your roster?

Currently:
12 Super Heavyweights
20 Heavyweights
15 Cruiserweights

I am also thinking either doing away with the weight divisions & making it open class. Haven't decided to do it just yet, but there is potential for it in the storyline.

I will give the towel idea some thought. Perhaps as I develop how I am going to do the dojos/camps, I will revisit the idea of the corner stopping the fight. Its just hard for me to say that I wouldn't rather the fighter die fighting then have the corner stop the fight.

[DUCE]

Thank you kind sir. Thats all the questions I've got for you now.

[Eliath]

You are most welcome. Anytime I can help or you have questions let me know.

[wildcat]

YOUR CARDS ROCK!

Do The Legacy as he would fit well in M.M.A.

[Chewey]

eliath said:

so this is one of your wrestling monk characters? will have to put him in the ring against the tattooed monk who eats dog meat and drinks wine!

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[theace2008]

these are awesome Eliath, thanks for posting them..I can see them getting some usage

[wildcat]

AND STILL MORE GOODNESS! Keep 'em coming bro..............

[Cosmic Crippler]

Eliath what ranking system do you use?