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Post by jefft on Jun 14, 2007 6:35:53 GMT -5
Could someone specify what the Launch Package has given us and what, if anything, it gives us as far as the future goes? How long it lasts, any future incomplete items it brings with it, etc.
and then
What specifically is coming at G-Con that's different from the above?
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Post by BDS on Jun 14, 2007 9:41:20 GMT -5
There are really going to be three components to COTGonline when it's all said and done: the Stat Tracker, the Game Table, and the various Digital Sets. The Stat Tracker and the Game Table will both work on a subscription basis - you'll be able to subscribe to either or both, depending on what suits you best as a promoter.
The Digital Sets will have components that function in each - owning the Digital Sets for the aCe Trilogy, for example, gets you access to those wrestlers pre-loaded in the Stat Tracker, Gallery entries with art, stats, and COTG Files info, and use in the match simulator. You'll also be able to play with those cards in the Game Table when it's released. The Digital Sets will all be a one-time fee, once you have them, you have them.
The Launch Package that y'all have bought got you the Digital Sets for the aCe Trilogy as well as a six-month subscription to the Stat Tracker that starts once they start counting subscriptions. While I'm not sure, I believe that the subscription timer hasn't started running yet - but you'd have to ask Osk about that one.
At or around G-Con, there will be two new products available: the Game Table will launch, so you'll be able to add it on to your subscription and be able to play COTG on the internet either by yourself or with other promoters. We'll also be adding the Digital Sets for New Beginning and Subversion 2120-22 as another package that you can purchase for use with the Stat Tracker and Game Table. I can't speak to what the prices will be on everything at that time or what sort of special offers, if any, there will be for G-Con, but I hope this clears everything up for you.
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Post by jefft on Jun 14, 2007 10:45:29 GMT -5
Yes, very clear, thank you.
So they will be releasing Digital Sets for the standard wrestlers, any word yet on how they might be handling SE/LE cards for guys? For example, I much prefer the art for the SE Alpha Force and SE Pegasus as opposed to their normal cards. Not to mention the fact that many of these cards have minor changes.
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Post by Wildfire on Jun 14, 2007 11:54:20 GMT -5
I have a question too, will the GWF guys see Character Progression? I'd LOVE to see say, Pulsar get a little better in 2088 and 2089 to the "Prime" card in 2090, for instance.
That would definately be a good incentive to buy the digital sets (for me at least)
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Post by Wildfire on Jun 14, 2007 11:56:33 GMT -5
On a related note, any decisions/time table on what will be next after the 'current' GWF? If I get a vote, I'd vote to start at Early Classics, then do a 'package' every couple months until everything was out. (maybe with a break to get CPC in there at the proper time for the new set to be released, whenever that is) @ BDS: Upon further reflection, this might warrant its own thread, feel free to make it so, Mr. Referee  |
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Post by BDS on Jun 14, 2007 12:44:15 GMT -5
Yes, very clear, thank you. So they will be releasing Digital Sets for the standard wrestlers, any word yet on how they might be handling SE/LE cards for guys? For example, I much prefer the art for the SE Alpha Force and SE Pegasus as opposed to their normal cards. Not to mention the fact that many of these cards have minor changes. To my knowledge, they'll be folded into the regular sets. Here at Swank Towers I've got my crack staff working on data entry for the GWF NB/Subversion sets now, and it'll have both Kill Prey and the Kill Prey SE in it ... you'll get to decide how and when to use them. |
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Post by BDS on Jun 14, 2007 12:45:27 GMT -5
I have a question too, will the GWF guys see Character Progression? I'd LOVE to see say, Pulsar get a little better in 2088 and 2089 to the "Prime" card in 2090, for instance. Most assuredly. You'll see some of it in the Subversion sets when they come out, and I can only assume that this will continue throughout the GWF's history as we roll things out. |
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Post by BDS on Jun 14, 2007 12:46:35 GMT -5
On a related note, any decisions/time table on what will be next after the 'current' GWF? No to pretty much everything you've asked here. I have my own suspicions, but they're just conjecture and speculation at this point, so I'll keep them to myself. Final word on this is up to Tom, Kris and Todd. |
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Post by Wildfire on Jun 14, 2007 12:50:30 GMT -5
To my knowledge, they'll be folded into the regular sets. Here at Swank Towers I've got my crack staff working on data entry for the GWF NB/Subversion sets now, and it'll have both Kill Prey and the Kill Prey SE in it ... you'll get to decide how and when to use them. "Crack Staff".. If its not Holli, I',m calling DSS on ya buddy |
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Post by Wildfire on Jun 14, 2007 12:51:05 GMT -5
I have a question too, will the GWF guys see Character Progression? I'd LOVE to see say, Pulsar get a little better in 2088 and 2089 to the "Prime" card in 2090, for instance. Most assuredly. You'll see some of it in the Subversion sets when they come out, and I can only assume that this will continue throughout the GWF's history as we roll things out. Sweet! That's great news! |
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Post by BDS on Jun 14, 2007 12:54:11 GMT -5
"Crack Staff".. If its not Holli, I',m calling DSS on ya buddy Well, it's certainly not me, and I'm not sure any of the kids are up to the challenge just yet. Give them a few years, though ...  |
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Post by Eliath on Jun 14, 2007 12:57:32 GMT -5
Believe me Wildfire, I have kids in Indiana too...you can work them nearly to death and CPS won't care..as long as you don't kill them in the process...Indiana is blind to child labor when it involves their parents as the employer. |
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Post by BDS on Jun 14, 2007 13:05:23 GMT -5
I drove the boy (5 years old) 90 minutes with me to a job site on Sunday. He assisted me with a six-hour client/server maintenance. It mostly just consisted of him turning screws and blowing out dust when it seemed entertaining to him, though, and watching Cartoon Network when it didn't. I at least have a glimmer of hope of passing on the family business to him now, and that's kinda cool. |
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Post by Wildfire on Jun 14, 2007 13:15:17 GMT -5
Heh, that's cool, although my wife would be mortally offended that you took your son and not your (older) daughter...
But then, she lays into hapless McDonalds cashiers if they ask "Do you want the Boy toy or the Girl Toy"
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Post by BDS on Jun 14, 2007 13:16:20 GMT -5
Heh, that's cool, although my wife would be mortally offended that you took your son and not your (older) daughter... Tell her that the boy was the only one of the kids home at the time. That'll make her feel better. |
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Post by Wildfire on Jun 14, 2007 13:19:30 GMT -5
As long as you stick with that as the reason, sure |
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Post by jefft on Jun 14, 2007 13:19:45 GMT -5
To my knowledge, they'll be folded into the regular sets. Here at Swank Towers I've got my crack staff working on data entry for the GWF NB/Subversion sets now, and it'll have both Kill Prey and the Kill Prey SE in it ... you'll get to decide how and when to use them. Perfect. |
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Post by dbfnq on Jun 14, 2007 14:43:05 GMT -5
The Digital Sets will all be a one-time fee, once you have them, you have them. No offence, but I still find this a disingenuous claim, because the digital sets are worthless without an active subsciption to the tracker or the table. The cost for the NB and Subversion digital set may be (say) a flat $40, but the cost for usable cards is that flat $40 plus $30 every six months, or whatever the final cost ends up being. |
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Post by BDS on Jun 14, 2007 16:21:18 GMT -5
Yeah, I suppose I can see how you can take that explicitly from what was written in that sentence, so you'll have to forgive the ambiguity. If you read the bulk of that post, though, I think I'm pretty straightforward about how the pricing structure's going to work. The Digital Sets, by themselves, are no more good to you than a stack of DVDs would be without a DVD player or, in a comparison that's perhaps more apt in form if not nearly in scope, than my mage's Robe of Ancient Earth is to me in Everquest since I'm not paying for the service anymore. If you let your subscription lapse, however, your sets will be there for you when you pick it back up again. That's more what I was trying to get across with the wording. You'll buy the sets one time, and they'll always be attached to your account, and your account will always be whatever the subscription cost is, whether you have one Digital Set or 800 of 'em. Like I said, sorry about any confusion there. And I know your number is hypothetical, but I'd be shocked if the NB/Subversion bundle was priced in that neighborhood. |
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Post by dbfnq on Jun 14, 2007 17:02:51 GMT -5
Like I said, sorry about any confusion there. No worries. It's a dealbreaker for me, though. Short of standalone PDFs, what I'd like is for the gallery to be made available on its own, either free or for a flat rate, so that you can at least guarantee you'll always be able to look at the cards and books you've purchased. Yeah, just grabbed a random number. Let's see, the cards would cost around $60, so I'd expect something more like $20-30 for the electronic versions. Possibly the low end, because NB is your gateway to a lot of future purchases and you want people to get started cheaply. |
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