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Post by crimsoncross on May 28, 2007 20:43:21 GMT -5
How does the Rankings work? I tried them and nothing,, not sure what to do on this one.
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Post by Talison on May 30, 2007 22:36:06 GMT -5
I've been wondering this myself. I'd like to know how they work before I order.
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Post by wildcat on May 30, 2007 22:38:12 GMT -5
School us :-Xsk ................. or BDS !
I'm trying to figure everything out as well. Including the rankings.
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Post by MikeMcKinney on May 31, 2007 0:23:47 GMT -5
If you imput your older aCe cards wins/losses. It will rank your guys...you can also choose a different panel to rank your guys. It's cool i've got my 1st 20 cards in and the rankings work fine.
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Post by crimsoncross on May 31, 2007 4:30:27 GMT -5
I learned that you must put in the last date of your card say 1/12/2119
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Post by jefft on May 31, 2007 18:14:03 GMT -5
Is a feature going to be added to show a difference in ranking points between a pinfall/submission win, a count-out win, and a dq win? Or have I missed something? I use a ranking system myself, but I give the winner more points for a pinfall as opposed to a count-out. I also take away less points for losing by disqualification against losing by, say, submission.
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Post by Wildfire on May 31, 2007 18:51:14 GMT -5
To use the rankings screen, the date you put in is the date the rankings are 'as of'.. so if you put, say 1/1/2119, and you cards was on 1/5/2119... its gonna be blank. The cool part about this is you can re-create rankings from any date, so you can look at them after every card if you want  As to the actual points system, I know BDS is the one that came up with it, and I also know that each ranker is a little different... How much of the details he's willing to divulge, that's up to him. |
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Post by jefft on May 31, 2007 20:26:22 GMT -5
As to the actual points system, I know BDS is the one that came up with it, and I also know that each ranker is a little different... How much of the details he's willing to divulge, that's up to him. Yeah, I'm ok with the basics of it, but I definitely think that there should eventually be a way to distinguish between the type of fall and then the number of points assigned to it. If you crush a guy with your finisher it seems sensible that you should get more points than if you win by disqualification or count-out. |
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Post by MikeMcKinney on May 31, 2007 21:17:35 GMT -5
I agree with jefft, Countout and DQ wins shouldn't be worth as much as a clean win. But I'm not sure how it is done.
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Post by Wildfire on May 31, 2007 21:22:17 GMT -5
I agree too (that would be another way to differentiate the different rankers, too)
At the moment, you can't tell 'Tracker that the match was a DQ... I think it would be a good thing to add though.
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Post by BDS on Jun 1, 2007 6:14:51 GMT -5
The rankings already differentiate between a DQ win ... assuming you write the fall out as DQ, disqualification, or Disqualiification. Well, some of the rankers do, at least. Nicodemus couldn't care less, though.  |
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Post by jefft on Jun 1, 2007 6:29:37 GMT -5
I wrote out several falls as you said for DQ or disqualification and none of my points seem affected...I tried all different rankers and they didn't change their points either. The only quirk I can see is that I'm working with a custom roster - would that make a difference?
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Post by BDS on Jun 1, 2007 6:47:32 GMT -5
I wrote out several falls as you said for DQ or disqualification and none of my points seem affected...I tried all different rankers and they didn't change their points either. The only quirk I can see is that I'm working with a custom roster - would that make a difference? Possibly. I'll have to look at the code ... I honestly don't remember. |
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Post by BDS on Jun 1, 2007 8:15:13 GMT -5
No, it had nothing to do with the custom roster. It should be working just fine for you now.
QUESTION: Do y'all consider a countout victory to be a "cheap" win, ala a DQ? Personally, I don't, but I'd like to hear what everyone else thinks.
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Post by Aquinas on Jun 1, 2007 8:21:20 GMT -5
No, it had nothing to do with the custom roster. It should be working just fine for you now. QUESTION: Do y'all consider a countout victory to be a "cheap" win, ala a DQ? Personally, I don't, but I'd like to hear what everyone else thinks. I have always considered countout victories to be above DQs.....so much so that, about 15 years ago, I made a rule in the GWF that a title -can- change hands on a countout. I figure if a guy is pummelled bad enough to not be able to get back into the ring at a 10-count, that's a dominant victory. |
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Post by dbfnq on Jun 1, 2007 8:25:02 GMT -5
Personally, yeah. It's a win, but not a definitive one. Pinfall or submission is a 'real' win. Anything else is just setting up a rematch.
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Post by Eliath on Jun 1, 2007 8:25:36 GMT -5
Yea Aquinas, but that rule also prevents champions from taking their belt and going home if they are getting the crap beat out of them...the GWF version of Ric Flair would be the king of that. It's like saying: "Fine you beat me...but you didn't pin me and you don't get my title." |
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Post by jefft on Jun 1, 2007 8:27:56 GMT -5
No, it had nothing to do with the custom roster. It should be working just fine for you now. QUESTION: Do y'all consider a countout victory to be a "cheap" win, ala a DQ? Personally, I don't, but I'd like to hear what everyone else thinks. A count-out is cheaper than a pinfall or submission but nowhere near as cheap as a dq win in my opinion. If I had my way I'd give the most points for pinfall/submission, a little less for count-out, and a lot less for dq...but that's just me. Having a distinction between dq and other types of victories is good enough I guess.  |
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Post by jefft on Jun 1, 2007 8:48:13 GMT -5
No, it had nothing to do with the custom roster. It should be working just fine for you now. Err, no it isn't.  ;D I typed in 'disqualification' and 'DQ' and all that and you've obviously changed the points (thank you)...but now ALL of my rankings points have increased by 100. For example, my #1 ranked guy had 31 points, now he has 131. My dq winner should have 3.5 points but he has 103.5 points. The dq loser should have -4 points, but he has 96 points...and so on, and so on. |
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Post by BDS on Jun 1, 2007 8:55:37 GMT -5
No, it had nothing to do with the custom roster. It should be working just fine for you now. Err, no it isn't. ;D I typed in 'disqualification' and 'DQ' and all that and you've obviously changed the points (thank you)...but now ALL of my rankings points have increased by 100. For example, my #1 ranked guy had 31 points, now he has 131. My dq winner should have 3.5 points but he has 103.5 points. The dq loser should have -4 points, but he has 96 points...and so on, and so on. No, that's intentional. The bootleg wrestlers were at a GROSS disadvantage compared to official wrestlers, and the extra 100 points is a reflection of that. All is well. |
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