Rubicon

[Darth Turkish]

Rubicon will definately be associated with Nero and Hadrian. As someone pointed out on the Message Board, Julius Caesar's crossing of the Rubicon River with his army caused Rome To fall into civil war, and dissolved the First Triumverate. The phrase "Crossing the Rubcion" indicates a point of no going back. I think Rubicon will be a genetic freak ala Genocide. It is possible that Barnabas will get some one of The Savage Kingdom's family or someone else important to them to signify "there is no going back".

Also, I think the unknown experiment is definately a Mark- made character. My guess?- Puma!

[Mike M]

Glad you saw my post on Rubicon. I agree, it's a near certainty that he's part of Barnabus' team. If I had to guess who his original experiment is, I'd have to concur that Puma's the most likely guess.

I also think that Karah did not intend to be part of the Species team. My guess is that he wanted to enhance his abilities so that he could be a bigger contributor on the Savage Kingdom squad, hence the "cut-off" of his taped speech in the handbook.

[Darth Turkish]

Sounds like a good plan.

It is kind of sad that the new editiond are only a week or so old, and I want the next one NOW!

[J Sanudo]

I think it would not be a suprise for the good Doctor's first creation to be Mandrill. It looks like Mark is setting that one up for us. Therefore, it must be someone we are not thinking of. Some say Puma. But, again, I think that would be very perdictable. So, who does that leave? Well, you have 3 other AniMen that are already around: Antak, Swarm and Minotaur. All three look like they can be it. My best guess of these three would be Minotaur. When he first came in, he claimed to be the son of Battering Ram. What if he really was his "son"; Battering Ram's DNA used to make him. Plus, in mythology, wasn't Minotaur a half man, half Beast?

Of course, what if the good Doctor's creation goes way back. What if his first creation was Reptillo, Badger, Ram or Iron Mane? Wouldn't this be an awesome way to bring Iron Mane back?!?!?!?!

[Darth Turkish]

The First experiment is definately a current guy. I do not see an angle being built off an old guy like Badger or Iron Mane.I also do not think that it is Mandrill because using his DNA for Nero and Hadrian would then have produced Watered down versions of Mandrill. I am not a biochemist, but itseems to me that using an experiments's DNA in another experiment would not produce strong results as opposed to using the real thing. I am still holding that Puma is the first experiment.

[JimSteel]

I think Rubicon will be apart of the Spiecies team but it wouldnt surprise me if he joined the Savage Kingdom

Here is a crazy idea.
What if Barnabus's first experiment doesnt look like an animen but looks human?

;D

[moparpaul]

I haven't got the 2118 editions yet so I'm not up to date on the whole Barnabus story.

But, if the experiment was to be an older animen, my guess would be Reptillo.

There was never an explanation as to why his animal side took over turning him into Serpent Unman.

[Chris Ingersoll]

Turkish said:

I am not a biochemist, but itseems to me that using an experiments's DNA in another experiment would not produce strong results as opposed to using the real thing.

As I mentioned on the other board:

1) This is essentially correct. There would also be something of an "inbreeding" issue.

2) I am a biochemist/molecular biologist.


EDIT:

Paul said:

There was never an explanation as to why his animal side took over turning him into Serpent Unman.

There was, actually (sort of): he wanted it to happen.

[Darth Turkish]

I am supported by the biochemist. Good to see the money did not go to waste at Oswego!

[wildman]

I believe that Raven is Rubicon. He is getting up there in age and he thinks that the only way he can stay on top and dominate is by letting barnabas experiment on him. I also believe that Wolf was his first experiment. think about it, all the other AniMen look more animal than human, where as Wolf looks more human than animal.

[Angry Young Man]

I think the 1st was Swarm. He really doesn't look much like an Ani-Man, more like a guy in a mask.

[wildman]

Does anyone have any theories on who Hadrian is? Is he a former star we know or just some guy barnabas picked up?? I think he might be Vandetta

[JimSteel]

Hadrian I think is a new guy. Looks like a screwed up experiment though.

Swarm an experiment? I do think thats very possible

[wildman]

I dont think its swarm either, they said he trained with antak on andromeda, minatour and slave beast are easier to beleive, they never daid anyting about their backgrounds.

[Trent Lawless]

Well, lots of discussion going on about this one! Nice to see. Okay, I won't spill the beans too much yet, but I will say that the correct answer has been mentioned above, and it's not a long lost AniMan like Iron Mane or Badger. And the story's not so much in who the first experiment is, as much as what happens after the revelation in 2119.

That probably doesn't tell you much, but maybe it's something to build off of!

[Darth Turkish]

Swarm could wear the mask because the experiment was botched. It was said there was scarring on his face, perhaps that is idue to the experiment.

[moparpaul]

So, according to Mark, it's one of Puma, Mandrill, Antak, Swarm or Minotaur.

Should be interesting.

[wildman]

Ok, i say between mandrill, swarm and minatour

[GalactiKing]

I'd toss Mandrill. I wouldn't rule out Puma, but I think it's either Swarm() or Minotaur(Why was he Son of Ram? Because he had Ram's DNA?)

[wildman]

Going back to something i said earlier, what about Gila??? He may not be physically dominant, but he is a brilliant tactition. His brains make up for his lack of talent. He managed to steal both Puma and Mollock away and brought in the largest, most physically dominant female in CPC or GWF for that matter. He also helped Talon to become a top cruiserweight. Just a thought