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Post by Chewey on Oct 21, 2007 0:59:26 GMT -5
In the words of one of my colleagues who is from Germany:
"No thanks to your president, Bush, I can't watch youtube videos here in China anymore because your president had to give the Dalai Lama an award and piss off the Chinese government."
I know this doesn't make a lot of sense, but this is the general word being spread among the expat community, as youtube is definitely blocked.
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Post by offspring515 on Oct 21, 2007 7:38:32 GMT -5
When productivity around the world increases as people spend more time working and less time watching dogs skateboard, will Bush be hailed a hero to the international economy?
Seriously though, skateboarding dogs. What will they think of next?
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Post by PureHatred on Oct 21, 2007 10:17:51 GMT -5
So....the US should go ahead and sanction China's oppression of the Tibetan people..and in no way acknowlege why the Dalai Lama has been exiled from his homeland...just to make sure that everyone has an opportunity to see Chocolate Rain?
Seriously, China has been blocking and/or censoring sites for years...this isn't that big a suprise.
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Post by rawhide on Oct 21, 2007 16:57:57 GMT -5
When productivity around the world increases as people spend more time working and less time watching dogs skateboard, will Bush be hailed a hero to the international economy? Seriously though, skateboarding dogs. What will they think of next? maybe skateboarding elephants ?  |
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Post by mikefortune on Oct 21, 2007 18:12:59 GMT -5
I have a friend in Hong Kong and we chat every so often and she asks me questions about the western world and vice versa. I do expect the Chinease to have me watched for talking and giving information over my hotmail.
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Post by Chewey on Oct 21, 2007 19:15:54 GMT -5
PH - I know China has been blocking and censoring sites for years. Just that when I am living in China, I like having my youtube and wikipedia, and it's annoying to know that I've lost it for ridiculous reasons.
Also, and this is in the spirit of the ongoing 17th National People's Congress and my CCP Party Line of the day, I recently came back from Tibet. While at times I felt more comfortable saying I was from America (albeit an American without the blond hair and blue eyes - which confuses a lot of people over here), Tibet does not feel like a land under occupation. The Dalai Lama was a dictator, and Tibetans used to live under a society of feudal serfdom. Plus, he tried to lead a revolt, which is the reason why he is living in exile. Han Chinese culture has permeated the heartland of Tibet in every way, and while there are atrocities that China has admittedly committed/continues to commit, it is more the Dalai Lama's successful marketing campaign as a tormented and compassionate spiritual leader that has garnered the sympathy of the world that has completely hidden the other side of the story.
mikefortune - I have probably lived in China for a cumulative amount of a year and a half, and thus far I have never seen any evidence of e-mail or IM conversations being redacted or censored in any way, although I do assume that some of it has been read.
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Post by Wildfire on Oct 21, 2007 20:18:26 GMT -5
The amazing this to me is that youtube wasn't banned in China before this.
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Post by offspring515 on Oct 21, 2007 20:35:58 GMT -5
Why is this thread making me think of John Lennon and Forrest Gump talking on the Dick Cavett show?
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Post by PureHatred on Oct 21, 2007 20:50:31 GMT -5
"Leave Britney Alone" was too much for Jintao to handle.
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Post by mft on Oct 21, 2007 21:02:16 GMT -5
Also, and this is in the spirit of the ongoing 17th National People's Congress and my CCP Party Line of the day, I recently came back from Tibet. While at times I felt more comfortable saying I was from America (albeit an American without the blond hair and blue eyes - which confuses a lot of people over here), Tibet does not feel like a land under occupation. . I still remember that story Chewey, you are a "foreigner" to both the Americans and Chinese! |
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Post by Chewey on Oct 22, 2007 2:40:58 GMT -5
to be fair, I am less of a "perpetual foreigner" than the Dalai Lama is.  |
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Post by BDS on Oct 22, 2007 7:31:47 GMT -5
"Leave Britney Alone" was too much for Jintao to handle. Holy shit. Having absolutely no grasp on pop culture, I just watched this for the first time this morning. I can't decide whether to laugh or be horrified. |
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Post by Chris Ingersoll on Oct 22, 2007 9:45:44 GMT -5
PH - I know China has been blocking and censoring sites for years. Just that when I am living in China, I like having my youtube and wikipedia, and it's annoying to know that I've lost it for ridiculous reasons. Which is fine and understandible, but I fail to see how this is apparently the fault of Bush. |
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Post by Chewey on Oct 22, 2007 9:59:12 GMT -5
PH - I know China has been blocking and censoring sites for years. Just that when I am living in China, I like having my youtube and wikipedia, and it's annoying to know that I've lost it for ridiculous reasons. Which is fine and understandible, but I fail to see how this is apparently the fault of Bush. Oh, it isn't. I just found it funny that of all the things that Bush could be blamed for, a German guy would blame him for getting youtube banned in a country that he doesn't even control. |
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Post by mft on Oct 22, 2007 10:03:18 GMT -5
Ohhhh deep down you know you blame him Chewey!  |
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Post by Chewey on Oct 22, 2007 10:08:39 GMT -5
Who else am I going to blame, the benevolent government that allows me to even access international internet? Pshaw!
If Hillary or Obama were president, they would have youtube unbanned before the end of the week!
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Post by mikefortune on Oct 22, 2007 15:59:57 GMT -5
PH - I know China has been blocking and censoring sites for years. Just that when I am living in China, I like having my youtube and wikipedia, and it's annoying to know that I've lost it for ridiculous reasons. Also, and this is in the spirit of the ongoing 17th National People's Congress and my CCP Party Line of the day, I recently came back from Tibet. While at times I felt more comfortable saying I was from America (albeit an American without the blond hair and blue eyes - which confuses a lot of people over here), Tibet does not feel like a land under occupation. The Dalai Lama was a dictator, and Tibetans used to live under a society of feudal serfdom. Plus, he tried to lead a revolt, which is the reason why he is living in exile. Han Chinese culture has permeated the heartland of Tibet in every way, and while there are atrocities that China has admittedly committed/continues to commit, it is more the Dalai Lama's successful marketing campaign as a tormented and compassionate spiritual leader that has garnered the sympathy of the world that has completely hidden the other side of the story. |
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Post by mikefortune on Oct 22, 2007 16:01:49 GMT -5
Sorry about the above I am just trying to figure out how to use the quote in the yellow box.
And Chewy I was being sarcastic when I said the Chinease goverment was targrting adn looking into me.
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Post by Chris Ingersoll on Oct 23, 2007 10:20:56 GMT -5
Sorry about the above I am just trying to figure out how to use the quote in the yellow box. Ya gotta remember to end it with one of these: [/quote]  |
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