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Post by WTIC on Aug 31, 2006 13:30:25 GMT -5
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Post by Big Bri on Aug 31, 2006 15:05:23 GMT -5
Good stuff.
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Post by blueraider1 on Aug 31, 2006 16:47:31 GMT -5
for sure.
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Post by Omen on Aug 31, 2006 18:17:42 GMT -5
good stuff....SO...COTG is not a work...tee hee!
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Post by Joe on Sept 1, 2006 9:36:19 GMT -5
This isn't meant as an insult to who found the wrestling slang dictionary, but this is almost as bad as the hip-hop dictionary or thesarus for those who want to rap but can't put words together.
Seriously, if a person needs a dictionary to use slang, then he should probably just stick to using regular, everyday words.
There's nothing cornier sounding than hearing someone who has never been any closer to a wrestling ring than a ringside ticket will get him talking about someone "doing the honors."
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Post by Trent Lawless on Sept 1, 2006 10:45:48 GMT -5
Joe,
Word up, yo.
Dat is wack!
You da bomb.
'N'at. Na'mean? ;D
Seriously, anybody ever see that Mad TV skit with the three black celebrities (I think a politican, a rapper, and a professor) who were trying to come up with a new term for something cool, since the white people stole all their slang? They even had a flow-chart of how the words were appropriated over the years (down to "all that and a bag of chips"). What they came up with was "Ebola," since it meant something deadly in the extreme. "Her booty's Ebola!" Verrrry funny stuff. And very true, too.
But any of this is at least good for a laugh. Word to yo' mama.
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Post by Vidtek on Sept 1, 2006 11:55:01 GMT -5
This isn't meant as an insult to who found the wrestling slang dictionary, but this is almost as bad as the hip-hop dictionary or thesarus for those who want to rap but can't put words together. Seriously, if a person needs a dictionary to use slang, then he should probably just stick to using regular, everyday words. There's nothing cornier sounding than hearing someone who has never been any closer to a wrestling ring than a ringside ticket will get him talking about someone "doing the honors." This is so true. It's these kinds of lists that let smarks think they know a whole lot more then they do because they can "speak the lingo." Kayfabe. Big Time
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Post by Big Bri on Sept 1, 2006 17:36:25 GMT -5
This isn't meant as an insult to who found the wrestling slang dictionary, but this is almost as bad as the hip-hop dictionary or thesarus for those who want to rap but can't put words together. Seriously, if a person needs a dictionary to use slang, then he should probably just stick to using regular, everyday words. There's nothing cornier sounding than hearing someone who has never been any closer to a wrestling ring than a ringside ticket will get him talking about someone "doing the honors." Hmm, I saw it as more of an informational/"hey, that's kinda cool" thing rather than a how-to. I don't strive to speak carney in my everyday life. I use the slang terms that I know when talking on here or to other devoted fans, but not when I'm explaining stuff to casual fans. The guy that wrote this might have just been doing it for kicks. I bet anyone 5 bucks that Cena uses that hip-hop dictionary you mentioned though.
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Post by blueraider1 on Sept 1, 2006 17:41:31 GMT -5
you never know dude.
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Post by Joe on Sept 1, 2006 17:57:42 GMT -5
This isn't meant as an insult to who found the wrestling slang dictionary, but this is almost as bad as the hip-hop dictionary or thesarus for those who want to rap but can't put words together. Seriously, if a person needs a dictionary to use slang, then he should probably just stick to using regular, everyday words. There's nothing cornier sounding than hearing someone who has never been any closer to a wrestling ring than a ringside ticket will get him talking about someone "doing the honors." Hmm, I saw it as more of an informational/"hey, that's kinda cool" thing rather than a how-to. I don't strive to speak carney in my everyday life. I use the slang terms that I know when talking on here or to other devoted fans, but not when I'm explaining stuff to casual fans. The guy that wrote this might have just been doing it for kicks. I bet anyone 5 bucks that Cena uses that hip-hop dictionary you mentioned though. I just think it is wack when those not involved in wrestling pawn themselves off as experts and overcompensate for their lack of first-hand knowledge by throwing around a bunch of insider terms they picked up by reading Flair's book or watching an RF video. Also, the skit Mark was talking about is funny as hell. I don't know if you can find it on the Internet, but it is fall-out comedy. Finally, I doubt Cena had to resort to the hip-hoptionary. He played football through college, so it is probable that he picked up his language and mannerisms legitimately.
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Post by Pete on Sept 1, 2006 21:34:26 GMT -5
"Well, like with our slang. Black people always used to say, "I'm in the house" instead of "I'm here." But then white people all started to say "in the house" so we switched it to "in the hizzouse." Hizzouse became hizzizzouse, and then white folk started saying that, and we had to change it to hizzie, then "in the hizzle" which we had to change to "hizzle fo shizzle," and now, because white people say "hizzle fo shizzle," we have to say "flippity floppity floop."That transcript can't quite do justice to the original...maybe Isaac Hayes' finest moment on the show. Regardless, I'm a bit curious as to what this dictionary is supposed to accomplish. If it's supposed to be a list of "insider" definitions, why are there listings for no-brainer terms like "kick out" and "swerve"? And, it being Wikipedia and all, there are plenty of entries that don't make a great deal of sense to me and smack of being made up by somebody: has anyone here, wrestling-related or not, ever heard of cutoff blue jeans referred to as "Moondogs"? I'm with Joe on this. Wrestling and urban dictionaries could be handy if you're a total outsider and for whatever reason have to decipher a song lyric or some other written work, but I can't imagine ever watching a show and saying (or even thinking), "Wow, that's an effective use of an Andre shot right there."
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Post by Mark 138 on Sept 1, 2006 21:44:10 GMT -5
If a real professional heard some moron using a lot of that "insider lingo" in a locker room he would kick the guy the straight out or just amuse himself by laughing behind the tools back. Some of those terms have been comprimised to the point that they are only used by wanna-be backyarders or third-rate indys and smart marks. Still others are so outdated that anyone who uses them seriously has to be about 150 years old. Then there are several in there that NO ONE except those on the fan level have ever or would ever use.
Long story short, that list is as laughable as any "insider list" put together by an outsider or wanna-be ever is (ie: the aforementioned hip-hop list, the baseball inside terms list, ect). Besides, like Joe wrote, it always sounds forced and corny when some dork tries talking like "an insider". It's as bad, as forced, and as unnatural sounding as when that sophmore year science teacher would get mad at the class and try to throw in a swear word to get their point across.
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Post by gwffantrav on Sept 1, 2006 21:51:36 GMT -5
I think everyone is being a tad hard on WTIC. I'm sure he didn't put that in there so everyone would start responding in wrestling lingo on the threads.
I think he thought it was just something fun for people to look at and nothing more.
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Post by Omen on Sept 1, 2006 22:58:20 GMT -5
I'm just glad you guys don't write in computer jargon...I would be lost....It would be cool to learn smark talk just to know what he's trying to say...to me plain english is good enough...Heck I'm still trying to figure out '60's slang
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Post by offspring515 on Sept 2, 2006 10:58:52 GMT -5
Eh, some stuff has become common lingo to wrestling fans via the things Joe mentioned...shoot interviews, wrestling books...heck, Edge and Christian used to use a ton of "insider" terms when doing guest commentary. I don't think it's a big deal when people on message boards call wrestlers workers, or talk about doing jobs, or spots or whatever.
It does get silly when you get people saying "I wish he would have done the honors to show some respect to the boys in the back." or something like that when talking about Hulk Hogan. That's when you go from smark to douchebag.
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Post by Splattercat on Sept 2, 2006 11:29:25 GMT -5
A lot of it is funny as hell when it slips out on air...I'm once again reminded of Tony saying that Mike Tenay turned heel, or that Gene Okerland "didn't sell that move at all"... As to the dictionary: we use a LOT of these terms on here, merely out of habit...Face, Heel, Angle (not Kurt), Booking, Spotfest, Bump, Dark match, etc...And there are others that probably are never used...Like Bonzo gonzo...That's just retarded...And Geek; To cut oneself..? Who the hell made that up..? The upside to all this; If someone comes in and says "That Masters...What a Lunch Wagon"...You'll know where he got it from.. ;D
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Post by Mark 138 on Sept 2, 2006 12:21:55 GMT -5
Yes, Splattercat. Like I wrote, a lot of that stuff hasn't been used in decades(at least a few are from before the 60s) and still others probably never were to any degree. As for Trav, I don't think anyone's being hard on WTIC since he didn't write the entry, just posted the link. I appreciate him pointing that out, if not necessarily for the reasons he may have originally had in mind.
Again, as Splattercat here points out, it'll be interesting to hear if some moron wanna-be starts using ridiculous terms like the ones he referenced. Everyone'll know for sure where they came from.
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Post by Joe on Sept 2, 2006 12:53:11 GMT -5
Like I said, I wasn't trying to put WTIC on blast. My statements were a commentary on how stupid the idea of an insider dictionary is.
After looking over the terms, I really realize how stupid this "dictionary" really is. Including terms like card and crimson mask, is absolutely ridiculous. It reminds me of the time I saw hip-hoptionary in Barnes & Noble and it had a definition for rock that s**t. If you cannot figure out what terms like those mean, then you probably need to pick up a real dictionary instead of one of these pieces of crap.
All said, however, I am going to start critiquing TNA shows by announcing how many Batman matches were on each show.
Admin Edit: Quick censor to make up for the filter's stupidity
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Post by Chris Ingersoll on Sept 3, 2006 11:51:44 GMT -5
I think everyone is being a tad hard on WTIC. I never felt that WTIC was actually being slammed at any point during this discussion. Joe framed his original detraction pretty clearly, I thought.
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Post by WTIC on Sept 5, 2006 8:41:29 GMT -5
Actually, I found the list amusing! Just thought I would share it with everyone. I know that I wouldn't start using wrestling slang in every sentence (at least, not more than I already do, hehehe).
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